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Pitch looks like it might turn a tad.
I'm expecting 5-0, just can't find a market that will let me put that bet on.

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By:
jucel69
When: 07 Nov 16 05:40
Got a feeling they might water the ends on a length so the bowlers scuff it up in the first few days & create a sandpit.
By:
ihatearsenal
When: 07 Nov 16 05:56
http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/india-v-england-test-series/india-england-test-series/series-correct-score       4/1 on offer at a few places.
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Nov 16 05:58

Nov 7, 2016 -- 5:56AM, ihatearsenal wrote:


http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/india-v-england-test-series/india-england...

By:
jucel69
When: 07 Nov 16 06:00
I haven't got any bookie accounts. I got limited years ago
By:
ihatearsenal
When: 07 Nov 16 06:04
terrible odds anyway mate,even taking india at 1.6 for the 1st test and 1.5 for the other 4,that would be at least 7-1 may as well wait for bet fair to make a market.
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Nov 16 06:04
I can get better odds than that by just backing India in each game and carrying it forward.
Then I can see if there is any rain too.
By:
ihatearsenal
When: 07 Nov 16 06:09
bet fair got a market now india 5-0 5.9 at the moment
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Nov 16 06:09
If India are say 1.5 and I bet and carry forward each profit, I would get approx 15/2 so I will do that.
By:
pxb
When: 07 Nov 16 06:10
The bf market is trading.
By:
ayt
When: 07 Nov 16 07:19
5-0 hahaha..no way
By:
DAN1974
When: 07 Nov 16 09:29
With no weather issues and a likely bunsen a draw seems improbable. Are Engalnd capable of beating India in these conditions ? No. So that leaves one conclusion, it just depends if you can get a better price than the 1.58 currently available. I suppose if England win the toss and get to 20/0 then you might, but if india win the toss its a likely train. So you might aswell lump on now. Which is what i have done.

Goid luck.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 07 Nov 16 13:46
That seems terribly confident, to me. I don't have much faith in England's top order batting or spin bowling and having much better pace may not be hugely helpful in this series, even though a better tail probably will be but India doesn't have a flawless side either. I'd be a bit surprised not to see England make a real game of at least a couple of the tests and probably win one. There's also the chance of a flat deck somewhere in there, although England don't tend to draw tests even on those. I'd rather lay a whole lot of draws than back a whole lot of Indias but either could work.
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 07 Nov 16 14:04
u bastards know theres going to be DRS in india????????//
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 07 Nov 16 14:05
look

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3913320/India-not-stressing-introduction-DRS-England-Test-series-insists-Ajinkya-Rahane.html
By:
DStyle
When: 07 Nov 16 14:07
looks green. good for batting first.
By:
ayt
When: 07 Nov 16 14:22
Laugh Grant lay ur bank on 5-0
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 07 Nov 16 17:32
I Ashley think England are a half decent side so I guess that is the problem, the other half!

I think the batting can be decent at times although the top 4 needs re construction. Personally I would have liked to have Root at 4 or opening but we don't have a 3. My team would be something like

Cook
Hameed
Root
Moen
Bairstow
Stokes
Butler
Woakes
Ansari
Rashid
Broad

I think Billings should have been taken along too.

It would appear Rashid is too expensive for Test Cricket but at least give him a go on an India Tour. Ansari is in for India's right handers but agin is he good enough? probably not at this stage of his career and maybe shouldn't be on the tour but he is the left arm spinner in the group so plays for now. I wouldn't bother with Batty. Moen is more likely to get wickets.

It will be interesting to see how quickly England can get the ball to reverse and how much work they will put into it.

I do think England were God awful in Bangladesh. I am sure they won't play as badly.

I think I am going to play this match cautious but if India bat first it is a no brainer. Dan might be right small bet India up front and then pile in or out after the toss
By:
Injera
When: 07 Nov 16 18:12
Rahul, Dhawan and Rohit injured. Ashwin at 6?

Opportunities for England. Not least in that the pitches may not be the bunsens we saw in Banga.

Having said that, I reckon we'll get stuffed Laugh

Hoping for some close matches and great betting. Draw already looks rather big....
By:
DAN1974
When: 07 Nov 16 18:35
England don't do draws, just 3 in the last 25 matches, one rain affected against sri lanka earlier this year, the other two absolute roads in the UAE and Cape Town.

Having said that the draw might well trade a lot lower, especially if India win then toss ( or rather when India win the toss Laugh). Although i do think England winning the toss will make for a better spectacle and for greater betting opportunities.

i just cant see this England team winning in these conditions , they may push India close in a couple of games but ultimately it will be 4 or 5 nil.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 07 Nov 16 19:22

Nov 7, 2016 -- 6:35PM, DAN1974 wrote:


England don't do draws, just 3 in the last 25 matches, one rain affected against sri lanka earlier this year, the other two absolute roads in the UAE and Cape Town.Having said that the draw might well trade a lot lower, especially if India win then toss ( or rather when India win the toss ). Although i do think England winning the toss will make for a better spectacle and for greater betting opportunities.i just cant see this England team winning in these conditions , they may push India close in a couple of games but ultimately it will be 4 or 5 nil.


On one of those roads in SA England should have won but dropped a million catches and were close to a win in the other in the UAE too, after Rashid's one decent innings with the ball collapsed Pakistan's tail. So yes, not a draw side, as the top order batting is too flaky to bat long and the lower middle order down bats quickly plus the bowling is usually pretty good. I'm probably going to be in for my default draw back to lay though.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 07 Nov 16 19:24

Nov 7, 2016 -- 6:12PM, Injera wrote:


Rahul, Dhawan and Rohit injured. Ashwin at 6?Opportunities for England. Not least in that the pitches may not be the bunsens we saw in Banga.Having said that, I reckon we'll get stuffed Hoping for some close matches and great betting. Draw already looks rather big....


Don't see five bowlers picked for England, as India will rightly be a bit concerned about the batting, especially with the injuries. Having said that, with the tests so tight together, there will be a temptation either to augment or rotate the attack.

By:
detraveller
When: 07 Nov 16 19:47
Its a new ground. I tried to find some ranji trophy games on the ground and after looking around found only one from last year October. Just took a look at the scorecard. And guess what i found? A lot of wickets went to the spinners.

You'd say that is normal. Only it ain't. Because spinners ended up taking a total of 40 wickets in the game.

And among the spinners who shared those 40 wicekts, there was one familiar name who took 13 wickets. One Mr. Ravindra Jadeja :D

The game was done inside two days.

I couldn't find a more recent game at the stadium though. But if india win the toss, i'll be lumping on them for sure.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ranji-trophy-2015-16/engine/match/901775.html
By:
stokergoinup
When: 07 Nov 16 20:10
There's been 2 more games since then detrav,both in November and the second of those saw 551 play 437,only 20 wickets in 4 days play.
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Nov 16 20:26
You mean this month?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 07 Nov 16 20:32
I think they sent the ladies onto the pitch today with wire brushes to scrub off the grass. This was after 4pm. With regard to the photo of the pitch can anyone confirm that it was of the current pitch or was it an SCA library photo?

The outfield is lush. The ball is similar to Duke so it may take longer if at all to reverse.

It is not looking good for England  I have to say but I don't like betting heavy odds on at the start of any match particularly when on another surface they could be viewed as evenly matched teams. If England win the toss and astonishly do bat well it could be a long train ride back so in the words of the immortal George Michael I am going to have to say caution pays!
By:
stokergoinup
When: 07 Nov 16 20:40

Nov 7, 2016 -- 8:26PM, detraveller wrote:


You mean this month?


That game you added a link for is from Oct 2015,there were 2 games played in Nov 2015.

By:
detraveller
When: 07 Nov 16 20:46
Thanks just found them.
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Nov 16 20:49
The stadium is also known as Khanderi cricket stadium which is why i missed those games earlier.
By:
detraveller
When: 07 Nov 16 20:52
If anyone wants to take a look, list of all the Ranji trophy games played on this ground: http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Grounds/14/6019_f.html
By:
jucel69
When: 07 Nov 16 22:38

Nov 7, 2016 -- 7:47PM, detraveller wrote:


Its a new ground. I tried to find some ranji trophy games on the ground and after looking around found only one from last year October. Just took a look at the scorecard. And guess what i found? A lot of wickets went to the spinners. You'd say that is normal. Only it ain't. Because spinners ended up taking a total of 40 wickets in the game. And among the spinners who shared those 40 wicekts, there was one familiar name who took 13 wickets. One Mr. Ravindra Jadeja :DThe game was done inside two days.I couldn't find a more recent game at the stadium though. But if india win the toss, i'll be lumping on them for sure. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ranji-trophy-2015-16/engine/match/901775.html


https://twitter.com/Aggerscricket?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

aggers posted it on his twitter feed, just scroll down and you can see it

By:
jucel69
When: 07 Nov 16 22:47
"The history here, though, suggests it would just need them two days to inflict a character change of the soil.
The trick is pretty simple. Water on the good length areas, let it soak in to 2mm depth, and just wait for the magic potion to do its bit. In two days, those areas would go softer, and an odd boot pressed on it on the first day would dent it enough to produce decent rough patches to aim for. Jadeja knows how to land them there, and Ashwin can cause enough heartbreak without curator’s help but won’t mind such assistance."
By:
pxb
When: 07 Nov 16 23:00
The ICC has been less than happy with some recent Indian Test pitches, so may be decent to bat on first up and deteriorate fairly slowly. A good toss to win I think. But India will take advantage of their superior spinners. Just not too blatantly. If Eng win the toss and bat first, could be in with a reasonable chance.
By:
pxb
When: 08 Nov 16 04:18
And the match will use DRS, and the LBW changes should benefit India. I don't think people appreciate how much the changes benefit spinners, and could well have been a quid pro quo to get India to use DRS.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 08 Nov 16 05:41
There is a very good statistical article on cricinfo about spinners and lbw's. Will find it later if nobody post's it before hand, am off on shelp stacking duties but if I find any clowns like T3 I will have my vengeance!
By:
jucel69
When: 08 Nov 16 05:43

Nov 8, 2016 -- 4:18AM, pxb wrote:


And the match will use DRS, and the LBW changes should benefit India. I don't think people appreciate how much the changes benefit spinners, and could well have been a quid pro quo to get India to use DRS.


There have been some jaw dropping decisions & ball tracking dismissals recently since the changes. Steve Smith's decision really opened my eyes up.
Mitchell Marsh's was an absolute shocker btw.
After the Perth game I will be adjusting my strategy slightly.
I can't see any 450 over draws in the near future & will therefore bet accordingly. Those marginal calls now go in favour of the bowler and as you said it makes a huge difference. Games will progress much quicker now
I've backed India heavily with a small saver on England, just in case.

By:
jucel69
When: 08 Nov 16 05:47
Here's a short video that details the new changes

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/1058755.html
By:
pxb
When: 08 Nov 16 06:48
The MM dismissal was an error by the ball tracking operator IMO, and hopefully we won't see a repeat.
By:
pxb
When: 08 Nov 16 07:09
jucel, did you get your series 5-0 bet on?

Someone took my lay of same at 5.3, but I doubt it was you. Too short a price.
By:
jucel69
When: 08 Nov 16 07:30
No I'm just going to make my own accumulator by hopefully adding the winnings to each stake on each game.
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