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DAN1974 When: 15 Oct 16 18:59

I think the sharp spin is coming out of the rough to the left handers.

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Fatslogger When: 15 Oct 16 18:59

Oct 15, 2016 -- 6:56PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Pak really need to skittle this tail out if they want to win this match, wont be easy on this pitch

Hmm, still a lot of runs ahead. If it spins more on days 4 and 5 could easily still win by bowling them out by lunch tomorrow for a lead of 200 say, putting on 175 or so before close and having a few overs evening day 4 plus day 5 defending 375.

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Fatslogger When: 15 Oct 16 19:01

Oct 15, 2016 -- 6:59PM, DAN1974 wrote:

I think the sharp spin is coming out of the rough to the left handers.

It is, yes. He's got a fair bit off the track too. I don't think WI will last a day batting in the fourth innings, on average, so will need to bat past lunch tomorrow to have the draw the most likely outcome. Not sure this is what the market thinks though.

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:02

Its spinning but its very slow spin, looks easy enough to handle (for now)

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:02

this pitch has to break up pretty badly, otherwise draw is nailed on 100%!

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Fatslogger When: 15 Oct 16 19:05

Oct 15, 2016 -- 7:02PM, tomtimtum wrote:

this pitch has to break up pretty badly, otherwise draw is nailed on 100%!

Don't agree at all: it could easily enough be won by Pakistan even if it doesn't deteriorate much at all from here, although it will break up to one extent or another. At the moment I'm playing the market more than the result (still waiting for the lay draw back at 1.9) but I think Pakistan wins this well over half the time from here.

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:09

terrible technique again

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:09

I wasn't betting seriously when we had the tests in UAE last time but one thing I do remember as a lesson learnt was not to expect a draw just because the first 3 days were a runfest or the RR was really low. Pakistan know these conditions really well and if WI have to survive on the last day, which they probably will, I would not like to be on the draw.

A better argument for backing draw could be the pink ball as that is a huge unknown at the moment. If this was a normal test match, would you guys still be seeing this as heading for the draw?

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:11

I ask because I have only watched a couple of balls in the game so far. Is pink ball influencing the runfest? If yes, how much?

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:12

I just dont see Pak winning this unless something dramatic happens and will bet accordingly, its a complete road, batting pretty easy.

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:13

100 overs bowled and batting has been pretty easy, I assume it will continue to be unless I see something which makes me think otherwise

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:16

I am sorry tom but I have to disagree with you. And the reason for that is that the runway pro G still hasn't certified it. When we get the certification I will lum on the draw.

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:17

Runline set at 400, they're normally pretty accurate.
That would leave Pak 179 in front and take us to about lunch.
That would give Pak 5 sessions to score enough runs to make the game safe and then bowl WI out, based on what I've seen, I don't think it will happen

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DAN1974 When: 15 Oct 16 19:18

I have to say i agree with Tom, i have seen nearly every ball today an this is a road, Samuels missed a straight one and the last two have been bounced out. If you apply yourself like Bravo has it is pretty easy batting. ghe trouble is i dont trust the windies, but so far they have been quite well disciplined.

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:18

Oct 15, 2016 -- 7:17PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Runline set at 400, they're normally pretty accurate.That would leave Pak 179 in front and take us to about lunch.That would give Pak 5 sessions to score enough runs to make the game safe and then bowl WI out, based on what I've seen, I don't think it will happen

Didn't know it was a 6-day game

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:20

ofc people dont agree, thats why the odds are what they are

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:23

day 3 today DT!

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:25

Yes tom. I think you meant to say '...that would give Pakistan 2 sesions to...'

or am i smoking too much?

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:26

I combined the two acts into five sessions

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:27

Oct 15, 2016 -- 7:26PM, tomtimtum wrote:

I combined the two acts into five sessions

Pardon. My English is a bit rusty...

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:28

Probably my poor English

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:32

Shame that the other tests are early starts, this is a nice time for viewing

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DAN1974 When: 15 Oct 16 19:33

Theres a busy schedule coming up, there will be three tests going on at the same time at the end of the month.

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:36

That sucks, hate clashes

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:37

Feel a bit for Bravo, batted pretty well

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:41

Regarding the clash, we'll only have 3.5 hours without cricket in a day. Midnight to 8:30pm CEST.

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:41

Need to update my calendar, must be missing some games

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DAN1974 When: 15 Oct 16 19:47

Sri lanka v Zimbabwe have you got that one.

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ayt When: 15 Oct 16 19:48

if west indies r not playing till lunch tomorrow,,its Gsm pakistan...

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:48

Oct 15, 2016 -- 7:47PM, DAN1974 wrote:

Sri lanka v Zimbabwe have you got that one.

No, didnt even know it was on!

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:49

lol 4 tests :D

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:49

Think I will ditch that one, prob not on TV

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DAN1974 When: 15 Oct 16 19:49

OCT 29th 1st test

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:50

oh sorry i was thinking India NZ were playing too. Jeez ive got my brain all fecked up.

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tomtimtum When: 15 Oct 16 19:50

Oct 15, 2016 -- 7:48PM, ayt wrote:

if west indies r not playing till lunch tomorrow,,its Gsm pakistan...

Pakistan no chance, sorry AYT

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DAN1974 When: 15 Oct 16 19:53

Oct 15, 2016 -- 7:49PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Think I will ditch that one, prob not on TV

never thought of that, i just presume every game is on TV these days.

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robinsuka When: 15 Oct 16 19:53

What if Pakistan don't enforce the follow on?

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:53

Ban-Eng: Oct 28 - Nov 1
Zim-SL: Oct 29 - Nov 2
Pak-WI:Oct 30 - Nov 3
Aus-SA: Nov 3 - Nov 7

11 continuous days of test cricket!

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detraveller When: 15 Oct 16 19:54

Oct 15, 2016 -- 7:53PM, robinsuka wrote:

What if Pakistan don't enforce the follow on?

Then they can forget about winning the game. Bowlers must be tired after bowling 107+ overs.

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DAN1974 When: 15 Oct 16 19:56

Do you mean what if Pakistan DO enforce the follow on ?