Kent vs Yorks - RLC

http://www.bensonsforbeds.co.uk/aerobed-luxury-inflatable-guest-bed/

Grant fc are free tonight!

Got them in a cheeky filthy accy to

17-Aug-16
10:49:59    5 Folds (x1) Brazil (Olympic) vs Honduras (Olympic), Brisbane Broncos v Canterbury Bulldogs
Betfair Bet ID O/3966405/0000286

33.00    264.69    Open

Brazil (Olympic) vs Honduras (Olympic)
Brazil (Olympic) - Match Result
1.25
--    --    Won

Brisbane Broncos v Canterbury Bulldogs
Brisbane Broncos - Match Winner
1.5
--    --    Won

Rio Olympics - Mens 400m Hurdles
Kerron Clement - Mens 400 Metres Hurdles
1.83
--    --    Won

Hull FC v Catalan Dragons
Hull FC - Match Winner
1.22
--    --    Open

Rio Olympics - Mens 200m
Andre De Grasse - Betting w/o Bolt & Gatlin
1.9
--    --    Open

£200 on a mattress
Not sure on tents, nothing expensive tho

Yeah went touring around Cornwall, needed something comfy

My mattress cost £5 on offer from Tesco!

Did you sleep well?

Where your fee popping out of the tent

being a Giant of a man

Aug 18, 2016 -- 7:32PM, bobweenit wrote:

Where your fee popping out of the tent

No! 6 hrs a night max!

Shagging in a tent is fun, don't half get a sweat on

Got one of these;
http://www.charliesdirect.co.uk/intex-inflatable-ultra-lounge-chair-and-footstool

Sat in the roasting sun, sipping ice cold wife beaters, living the dream

are catalans playing kids or something, why are hull so short!

£5 on a mattres!

Aug 18, 2016 -- 7:34PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Got one of these;http://www.charliesdirect.co.uk/intex-inflatable-ultra-lounge-chair-an... in the roasting sun, sipping ice cold wife beaters, living the dream

Inflatables and Stella

id need a quality matress, back pain is no fun

Grant you need a health kick

Aug 18, 2016 -- 7:36PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

are catalans playing kids or something, why are hull so short!

Cas got some injuries and r gash away from home

pretty gash at home as well after you tipped them up this year

bob make a thread

Tom will make one 4 us

can I say it

He must live pretty close to the stadium

Aug 18, 2016 -- 7:45PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

can I say it

yes

YORKSHIRE IN ALL SORTS OF STRIFE HERE

Aug 18, 2016 -- 7:46PM, GRANTCKING wrote:

YORKSHIRE IN ALL SORTS OF STRIFE HERE

Oh my not watching but last time I checked they were 1/10 now there 5/4

Watching the Womens Golf

bob tip me a double or treble that pays around 5/4ish

Out of accas but hull ht ft and A spencer  to medal in the 400 hurdles

Grant, add draw in WI v India game to anything

Spencer 8/11 to medal at ladcrooks

Draw 1.38 after day 1!

Aug 18, 2016 -- 7:49PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Grant, add draw in WI v India game to anything

was looking for something that would be settled 2nite tom! u know me

bob we moving to a rugby thread or staying here?

bob ive made us a thread

will be there at kick off

Had totally given up on my cash for this game and discovered to my delight that I was able to lay Kent at 1.8 for £100 plus on Yorks and still £650 on Kent.  Think Yorks a little undervalued at that sort of price with a fair way still to go, no matter how nicely this pair is going.  Also on Surrey at 1.57.  Mind you, after my efforts laying the draw in the test match, I need to win quite a bit on the one day games.

this price is up and down like a ......

bride's nightie

Wish I'd carried on putting my rather wide awake daughter to bed and not noticed Kent's revival, as would then not have laid off.  This looks very, very gettable from here, as does Surrey's target but 5 down is pretty precarious: wicket falls and the whole thing can collapse in a heap very fast.

I hate volatile matches like this tbh

Aug 18, 2016 -- 8:25PM, trader pj wrote:

I hate volatile matches like this tbh

Nice if you manage to ride the swings but I stopped trying to do that in limited overs a while ago as there was a train that took my big green away far too often.

Well, I got lucky there, but it can SO easily go the other way

what a game this has been, how many swings?

ive seen both teams odds on atleast 3 times

kent fecked now

one of these market swings will be "terminal" - probably this one

jesus these 2 scoring singles easily

Rashid is SO much better than Rafiq

I honesly have no idea who is going to win this

I trust everyone is cheering on the tie too?

"This market has had more flip-flops than a...." (post your wittiest answers below)

jesus other game going to end in a THAI!!

I've picked the wrong match then

I checked earlier, but betfair aren't offering an independent tie market for that game.

omg surrey win!!

Sanga wins it for them

surrey needed 2 off 1 and sanga hit a 4

Sanga 130 off 145 balls.

yorks a huge price here

once it goes past a run a ball kent are fecked

222222222222

TIMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

How about "This market has seen more flip-flops than a Hawaiian chiropodist"?

claydon has scored a 77 in a first class match.

If you backed at 1.5 each flip-flop and kind of Martingaled to recoup your losses you'd be risking a small fortune by now.

TIMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:12PM, winningthought wrote:

I've picked the wrong match then I checked earlier, but betfair aren't offering an independent tie market for that game.

No, although the "match odds including tie" market is basically the same.  Nobody seems to bet on results on it but people do bet on the tie.  In games with both markets, the tie odds shuffle across both markets so if you place a bet on one, it appears on the other.   Quite clever in a way although it's not really any better than just having the tie market. 

I was on Surrey and had given up on it.  Funny old day.  Glad I lost money on Ireland (comical backs at 20s with Pakistan 5 down and by no means certain to score millions more.

All over red rover here.  Shame.

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:20PM, VardonVoo. wrote:

If you backed at 1.5 each flip-flop and kind of Martingaled to recoup your losses you'd be risking a small fortune by now.

yes, I was

I'm well aware of the match odds with tie, its just that the cross market matcher, or bot user wasn't playing. No money in that market when I looked.

Actually, good point. That is how we lose our banks in one night. but not tonight!

BF have a thing they call "Liquidity Pooling". They've had it in football markets for a while. I've noticed "mirrored bets" appearing elsewhere, possibly by independent bots, but it would be uber good if BF officially operated LP in cricket and tennis markets.

As long as your bank can sustain 2^n, you'll always make money using Martingale.

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:20PM, VardonVoo. wrote:

If you backed at 1.5 each flip-flop and kind of Martingaled to recoup your losses you'd be risking a small fortune by now.

Oh, took me a while to understand this.  Thought you were describing the opposite approach of backing long odds rather than short.  Yep, that would have been a painful effort. 

Funny old thing, I've had a good day overall on results and dodged a bullet on the Surrey chase (backed when Northants 9 down thinking 1.57 was awful generous for a chase of likely under 240) but still feel a bit deflated after that finish not going to the end.

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:26PM, winningthought wrote:

As long as your bank can sustain 2^n, you'll always make money using Martingale.

You need the market to be pretty liquid too.

That was missing off stump of a second set that lbw too!

I missed the replay of that final dismissal. Looked a poor one in real time.

Yeah but how many flip-fops was that?  n=6 means your tenner has to become £320 just to avoid losing your fiver. I think there might have been at least that many there.

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:25PM, VardonVoo. wrote:

BF have a thing they call "Liquidity Pooling". They've had it in football markets for a while. I've noticed "mirrored bets" appearing elsewhere, possibly by independent bots, but it would be uber good if BF officially operated LP in cricket and tennis markets.

Mirrored bets are everywhere, part of the Bot culture - morons write these programmes I take money off them every day, i.e. not a worry

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:26PM, winningthought wrote:

As long as your bank can sustain 2^n, you'll always make money using Martingale.

2^n   good point!

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:26PM, winningthought wrote:

As long as your bank can sustain 2^n, you'll always make money using Martingale.

2^n is not to be messed with !

I would have thought the mirrored bets would add welcome liquidity, even if the bots are written correctly.

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:29PM, winningthought wrote:

I missed the replay of that final dismissal. Looked a poor one in real time.

NOT OUT  ! and I was balls deep Yorks, so not money talking

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:36PM, VardonVoo. wrote:

I would have thought the mirrored bets would add welcome liquidity, even if the bots are written correctly.

how is it adding to liquidty is you have a shadow ?

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:31PM, VardonVoo. wrote:

Yeah but how many flip-fops was that?

what if your unit is say £200 ?

Aug 18, 2016 -- 9:31PM, VardonVoo. wrote:

Yeah but how many flip-fops was that?

n = 7 or 8 tonight

By "mirrored bets" (and also the idea behind "liquidity pooling") I mean a bet in one market is mirrored in a related but less liquid market, meaning that if you have a position which you want to get out of which is now equivalent to, say, a draw in the main market, then you might have enough liquidity to get out in the same market instead of having to place a separate bet in the main market and run two opposing positions (and get screwed on the commission on the winning side eve if you lose overall). I wish they'd make commission payable onnly on net winnings across all markets related to one event though - that would be a great idea for a promotion, don't you think?

probably I misunderstood tbh VV you have a good brain it is very clear :-)

Not always clear enough in the heat of the moment though!

What puzzles me is that if one side of the book is trading at say 60-70 and the other side is 1.01-1.02 why does the 60 not get matched even though 1.02s are getting laid on the other side? I thought the idea of a bet-matching algorithm was to ensure you got the best odds available on a given outcome.