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By:
nigelpm1
When: 18 Aug 16 20:38
There's a good chance they get little or no play here over the next few days.  Field of play is a swimming pool.  1.43 on draw is likely huuuge!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 18 Aug 16 21:36
tomtimtum
18 Aug 16 17:22

Be careful WD!


Thank youLove
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 18 Aug 16 21:37
I am going to leave this one and go to the High Veld tomorrow instead!
By:
detraveller
When: 18 Aug 16 22:11
That was a good advice from tom. Wish I had listened to him too. As usual, I find myself on the backfoot right from the first bet!
By:
detraveller
When: 18 Aug 16 22:19
More than the weather, its the groundstaff that bothers me. If it rains in-play, we can forget that they'll be back on soon. If it rains hard, the day's over! No super sopper ffs!
By:
the whizz kids
When: 18 Aug 16 22:20
Caught with my pants down again.Laugh
By:
the whizz kids
When: 18 Aug 16 22:30
Weather is an issue but even with the bad weather India should have a big enough lead by lunch on day 4.
Kohli has it in his eyes atm to get top spot, you could see it in the last test and to be able to take it away from Pak makes it even sweeter.
Anyone backing the draw now at 1.45 with 12 sessions left needs their head reading. 1 bad session and it's game over as we have all just seen in the last few tests.
I would be topping up but 1.2 red is more than enough.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 18 Aug 16 22:50
Lots of rain forecast - they can't deal with any of it.  Highly unlikely they'll get out on time tomorrow if there's no more rain.  Backing 1.46 incredibly smart.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 18 Aug 16 22:51

Aug 18, 2016 -- 10:30PM, the whizz kids wrote:


Weather is an issue but even with the bad weather India should have a big enough lead by lunch on day 4.Kohli has it in his eyes atm to get top spot, you could see it in the last test and to be able to take it away from Pak makes it even sweeter.Anyone backing the draw now at 1.45 with 12 sessions left needs their head reading. 1 bad session and it's game over as we have all just seen in the last few tests.I would be topping up but 1.2 red is more than enough.


I think this is optimistic but not totally deluded.  It may well need two or three really bad sessions from WI to lose if there is much more rain. Losing time on the first day can matter less than people imagine as it means early starts for the remaining four days. If more time is lost there's potentially extra, extra late finishes to catch up the time that should have been added but wasn't played because of more rain, I think, so a day with an hour of time lost say, could still see 98 overs.  Also, batting second, if India do manage to ruin the WI first innings fairly quickly, which they'll probably need to, they can afford to bat pretty aggressively, knowing time already lost and that say being all out for 320 off 80 overs won't be a bad thing at all if WI only make 175.  I reiterate though, that if there is a fair bit more rain, a lot will need to go India's way to win.

By:
nigelpm1
When: 18 Aug 16 22:55
More about the outfield than rain.  Water table high.  Might genuinely not get much more than 80 overs in entire time left.
By:
the whizz kids
When: 18 Aug 16 23:41
Outfield is of more concern tbh. Adam Peaty could have won another gold in that today.
I've backed India at avg of 2.88 but would still be happy to see a bit of rain before start of play tomorrow as the market will overreact and could see the draw at around 1.2ish by lunch.
Underground going big %s on rain tomorrow but only giving 4mm. They always ramp it up. Not sure what they give today though?
By:
detraveller
When: 18 Aug 16 23:47
Consider this:

It rained Wednesday evening and they had to start half an hour late thursday morning! That's about 16 hours of time to get the ground ready! They didn't manage it.

It rained today and they called off at 2pm!!!!! How heavy the rain has to be and how poor the groundstaff that they cancel the day's play halfway into the day! I have seen fields turned into swimming pools and still managing a game.

I know Kohli would always push for a result, like we saw in alst game. The incentive here is too sweet to ignore. And the implications of the draw quite bitter. But if a ground doesn't have super sopper, how do they expect play? I thought every ground in the world had a super sopper!

Backing draw from here on may not be the smartest move. I envy those who didn't take any position in this game. This test is gonna mess up a lot of people, thats what i feel. I'll run away with a manageable loss as soon as i can.
By:
the whizz kids
When: 18 Aug 16 23:55
Wednesday ? It's Friday now D.Crazy
By:
detraveller
When: 18 Aug 16 23:57
Yes its Friday. Im saying it stopped raining wednesday evening and they had 16 hours to get the field ready for thursday morning, which they couldn't. We are not betting on the weather here. We are betting on the groundsmen' ability. And I don't have any confidence in that. Basically if its raining now, we will have a delayed start. That's what happened today.
By:
the whizz kids
When: 18 Aug 16 23:58
Sorry D, misread post. Did not read it, only looked at consider and Wed. My mistake.Laugh
By:
the whizz kids
When: 18 Aug 16 23:58
Sorry mateLaugh
By:
detraveller
When: 18 Aug 16 23:59
NO worries. Any idea why they don't even have a super sopper?
By:
the whizz kids
When: 19 Aug 16 00:04
No sure mate? They only had a sponge in the last test. Now I've read your post it all makes sense now but backing the draw at this stage at this price is crazy unless it's in Bangla or you know of any serious bad weather coming in. Pxb and Jucel will be waking up soon. Best people to ask.
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Aug 16 00:07
I like pxb he posts at midnight our time then disappears into whatever he came out of! (No offense)

Im pretty sure both of them will advise not to get involved, unless they are themselves pants down laying the draw.
By:
jucel69
When: 19 Aug 16 03:01
I backed India 2k at 1.75. Went to sleep but put a stop/loss in at odds of 2.5.
Taking the 600 quid loss and walking away from this.
The radars/satellites and forecasts have been all over the place so don't want to get involved anymore.
The lack of drainage and equipment to mop up also worries me.
If it was in SL I wouldn't be worried but these muppets have no way of getting this ground ready in an expedient manner.
By:
pxb
When: 19 Aug 16 03:24
The fact the pitch wasn't ready for play at the start should have been a big red flag. Forecast looks OK for the next 2 days with just a couple of light showers.

With WI batting first, this could be over in 3 full days, and on the forecast we will probably get them, but not getting the pitch ready expediently is a big concern. I have a big red on the draw and will look to trade it down with hopefully decent weather day 2.

det, I'm 7 hours ahead of the UK.
By:
jucel69
When: 19 Aug 16 05:01
Just imagine how much money the groundsmen could make in this game re soggy outfield.
By:
jucel69
When: 19 Aug 16 06:31
Any rain in the morning and the whole day will be gone.

This was a pic of the ground in the late afternoonSurprised.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqKTvyMVMAAzM_b.jpg
With more rain overnight & forecast in the morning, afternoon, there is no where for that rain to go. It's just going to sit on the outfield without any proper equipment to move it.
By:
jucel69
When: 19 Aug 16 06:33
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/flash-rb.html
Still lots of rain to the east, making it's way across.
By:
pxb
When: 19 Aug 16 07:23
That cloud doesn't look like it has much rain in it.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 19 Aug 16 07:27
Doesn't need a lot of rain to damage the outfield.  1.4 now.  Would expect 1.13 by close of play today.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 19 Aug 16 08:10
Unless of course they've acquired a super sopper - or flown one in.
By:
Chandigarh
When: 19 Aug 16 10:21
Today's forecast before lunch not looking good
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Aug 16 10:33

Aug 19, 2016 -- 10:21AM, Chandigarh wrote:


Today's forecast before lunch not looking good


This could equate to play called off for the whole day. Its not the weather that is the issue here, its the groundstaff.

By:
jucel69
When: 19 Aug 16 12:22
https://twitter.com/neerajkjha?lang=en-gb
By:
jucel69
When: 19 Aug 16 12:26
The outfield is sodden & no sun to dry it
By:
Chandigarh
When: 19 Aug 16 12:30
and rain ahead
By:
stokergoinup
When: 19 Aug 16 12:39
Is that a super sopper in the pic?
By:
Chandigarh
When: 19 Aug 16 12:41
oh yes it is and i didn't noticed
By:
Chandigarh
When: 19 Aug 16 12:45
someone tweeted highly unlikely as they dont have one (its a tractor)
By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Aug 16 12:55
Is it going to rain within the hour........???

It appears to be close, but i don't read this proficiently...
By:
Chandigarh
When: 19 Aug 16 12:57
Radar not suggesting any rain before 12:00 local
By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Aug 16 12:58
Thank you, explains the slight drift.
By:
DAN1974
When: 19 Aug 16 12:59
It doesnt matter. The outfield is saturated and they havent got anything to soak it up with.
By:
Chandigarh
When: 19 Aug 16 12:59
may be dan because it was drizzling late night
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