South Africa v West Indies - 3rd Test Cape Town

actually just another mistake by a WI batsman

oh my, I think I need to get out of this quick. Looks bad for WI

that was poor batting too

well that went better than I feared.  WI were backed up to a hundred, I think up to 70 before they had conceded a first innings lead. I just felt that was cavalier and careless. As can be seen they are still in the game and a bit of reality may sink in tomorrow. The only question for me is when and how will WI throw this away and can I curb my greed enough to take a respectable green?

Anyone any ideas what the weather will do tomorrow?

Could be some rain but hard to predict...

Windies need a 250 lead to justify their price. Even then I would fancy SA to win easily. Pitch is fine, in fact it's a belter to bat on.

Anyone else mute the comms? So much inane chat and don't get me started on the endless replays.....

Injera I don't think the pitch is fine!

I think it is a diffiicult pitch to score freely on ( unless you are ABV ) but once in it should be difficult to dislodge a batter although there is the odd low bounce and it is taking spin.

There is little sideways movement and many of the batsmen have given their wickets away plus 3 run outs so both sides should have batted longer and for more runs but there is an underlying threat that the pitch may break up and that is what is interesting.

There may be a shower but as usual the forecast with pictures of rain induces a belief that it will rain for hours. 40-60% chance of precipitation means there may be a quick shower.

I am not sure if it is possible but if WI set in excess of 200 ( 250 ideally ) they stand a pretty good chance imho. Now I have to wait until the morning.  I will not be able to sleep for thinking of the many ways WI can stuff this up. This is a Ship pitch and he is due a score. His stumping in the first innings was unfathomable.

This could be an exciting finish

Fair points Whispering.

Looking at the team scores and number of batters to get in I'd say it's a belter!

I got rid of my huge Windies green this morning and regretting it now..not cos I think they'll win but because they may well trade in single figures which would be v.annoying!!!

Hoping for a bit of rain ad draw price crash which would suit me fine.

I just love test cricket.

Maybe 1 or 2 brief showers.

Missed my chance to green up before play yesterday.

Can't see WI winning this, and laying the draw for a bit.

interesting change in weather forecasts

Expecting brilliant sunshine however

This will put the cat amongst the pidgeons in the morning. Still a little surprised the draw has come in so much. Maybe someone knows more than me. Still plenty of time for WI to hoist the white flag.

Am laying South Africa

Strange. Big weather panic, and now prices are back to where they were before.

Never like to see 'drizzle' in the forecast for a cricket match.

And another weather panic.

That is one massive draw crash. Got to 25s when Windies lost their second wicket.

8s by the close and now 6/4. Very rare to see the market caught out so much.

People reading cricinfo as they wake up are laying even harder..

what an earth is going on?

My nocturnal habits cost me an early rise and missed out on laying the draw for 1.6-1.7. Bought my SA red at 2.12 TFFT!

Now going to have a cheeky punt on WI at 70's!

Ok latest is inspection at 2pm so maybe play by 3pm? still enough time for WI to lose this game.

warm and humid. should be some play. the defecit is wiped out so SA will have to match whatever WI score.

Unlikely as this sounds if WI get bowled out they have set a toatl and are in the game? This is quite exciting. Cleared my red but have not booked any profit yet.

WhisperingMug, are you backing Australia tomorrow?

You been on the grog again Second?

If west indies can some how put on another 230 runs i dont think south africa will go for total in 55 overs, they will bat for draw

I like to go against the short odds on two relatively matched teams. Not saying India will win but they could put in a good batting performance. Small bet India at 6, back draw at 3.73, lay Convicts at 1.84!

I have missed out a bit recently but been betting gingerly and not always watching the games at the right times but these last few games since boxing days have shown the merit of opposing odds on favourites when teams are matched ( to some degree ) and also heavy odds on ( 1.24 on day 1 ).  That doesn't mean the favourite doesn't win but it does throw up some opportunites.

anyway Second you know betting on your lot would make me physically sick before the match starts. I have to do it during the game while nobody is looking!

45 minutes til play?  How many overs does that make?

Laid the draw anyway.  Hoping it rises heaps more before play, and then a couple of quick wickets would go down a fcuking treat.... 

Start at 1pm...53 overs if it doesn't rain!

I expect to see WI skittled for well less than a 200 lead! 200 ahead would have to impact heavily upon the odds. I think either side could be bowled out here in less than two sessions. The pitch is wearing. It should be seamer friendly this afternoon.

53 overs cut off time 4.30 but another half hour if they have not been bowled by 4.30. That is enough cricket for a result!

Where do we go from here?

143 overs left then?  Max?

Jan 5, 2015 -- 12:11PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:

You been on the grog again Second?

I am a non-drinker, it's a well known fact

are you winding me up?

That is unAustralian!

Think the whole "Australian" thing is worked out on averages.  Be sure I have covered at least 12 forumites tonight in their quota..... 

back to the game. weather set fair for tomorrow, should be a result. WHat can feck this up?

A wet ball this afternoon? Wi score some runs? 50 over 125 runs by close for how many wickets down?

Not sure where this game is going.

SA must be favourites for now until or if WI score some runs then there will be a crossover point although nobody would appear to think WI have a scooby ( except me! ).

I think an even green would be the best way to go about this and dreams of riches saved for another day!

Could have taken a bath with those weather gyrations, but came out with a decent all green position.

Counting myself very lucky.

Based on the assumption that WI are borderline unproffessional in regards to test matches, I can't imagine they will be that interested in playing today when the weather dictates they do.  Think they lose a couple quickly before maybe getting their minds into it. 

Either way, worth a little gamble that they lose a couple of quick wickets, or at least until we see what the ball is going to do.

Pitch will be bone dry. Not a drop will have got on it. May be swing, who knows.

Damp outfield won't help SA.

Draw price very short given WI are 0-2....

Braithwaite 16 off 45 balls, off the mark with a 7.  9 off the other 44 balls...  lol

Hat trick please...... 

Kidding himself.  Right?  1 ball, already delayed it 2 minutes for a helmet change?  ffs

Is it not up to the batsman to be ready to face when the bowler is ready?  When did those rules change?

Either way, wicket imminent IMO......

Morne bowling well. WI need to get that ball wet quick!

135 km/h?  Must be boggy run up.....

ffs

Dropped.  Tough tough, but ffs

Not worried about a draw are you BJT?

Not right now.  Only position is laying it.  Day and a half away from worrying about that.  Plan to be long gone by then..... 

   There you go......

Great trading match!

Near made as much there as got taken away from me on the tie in the BBL.  Another wicket and fcuk the BBL 

Could always back the tie

Samuels a non walking wicket here...  lol

Jan 5, 2015 -- 1:19PM, Injera wrote:

Could always back the tie

Of course, but always bad value.  In the long run best off letting it ride.....

ffs

Be 10.00 draw here inside 20 minutes.....

Yes but it sucks when you've worked hard to get a hefty green and it's voided.

Agree it's a difficult call though..

I think Windies may play a few shots here. Even Shiv. Somehow have to get a 150 lead.

And probably get it, but will lose a couple wickets quickly here.  IMO

Generally, by the time you get a hefty green, you are looking at 1.10-1.15 tie.  Fcuk that, IMO.

How.  How.  How in fcuk, is Chanderpaul a real thing?

I'm not following the Big Bash but when I do T20s I often get a sneaky bet on the tie when it's 15-20s just as a very cheap form of insurance.

Very cheap is the issue though.  Percentage wise, it is not in your favour, as such, costing you money.  At least, in the long run costing you money.  May feel good when it is a tie, but giving up 10% of your profits when it isn't a tie, 20 times, and the 1 time it is a tie cashing in, makes little sense to me.

Besides.  Sometimes you need something to bitch and moan about.  Sometimes need to let something out.... 

wow what a tense session!

Fantastic test Match cricket. You just know Samuels is going to duck into one that does not get up and will be out lbw to a half tracker!

I think WI have 4 batsmen here who can score some runs and occupy the crease. If these guys manage to push the lead to 150 between them it might liberate the lower order to have a crack. Must be nervous for both sets of fans

Should have been given out.. It only bounced once.

This is going to be glorious but short from Samuels!

Intriguing stuff.

Brilliant from Marlon to not allow the spinner to settle.

Hmmm.  Got to the pitch, and the turn near fcuked him both times.  Result imminent.  Surely

Shiv didn't help Marlon in the first innings and not here either.

OMG watching India play football on the SCG must be making Aus tremble. Imagine if they lost to India it would like being savaged by a sheep!

Sheep are pretty hardcore.  Wrestled a few myself.... 

This is like watching DR Who!

I hope he realises he can pork a few singles just as easy now he has spread the field!

Beautiful to watch IMO.  Money starting to flow.

Commies reluctant to praise him. Just waiting for him to throw it away.He's playing a brilliant innings.

He's singlehandedly giving Windies a chance to win tomorrow.

Wasn't aware it was still Christmas.  But merry fcuking christmas to me.  This must have been what trading was like when Betfair first come on the scene.....

Marlon restoring some pride in Windies cricket. Great to see a batsman mix quality defence with brute force!

well I think he was right not to let harmer settle. you knew it would happen but he has played well. the pitch is tricky until you are well set. he would also have put harmer under pressure by taking easy singles for low risk but he set his stall out.

And back into the big money lays. 

I could watch this guy bowl all day every day, fantastic!

I thought that was out!

tailing!

lol.  Hit him outside the line and going further away.  Looked closer live.  Actually, think I just noticed his reaction more than anything.

And yeah, one of the best.

Do they want to take the new ball even?

So often the 4th day is the best. The game speeds up (even when it rains for 3 hours!) and just when you think there's a chance of a draw....boom!

I guess Marlon divides opinion but I always love to see a player go for the high risk shots because it's great entertainment. Let's face it, they had to score quickly to have any chance of setting a decent target tomorrow.

Take a single, 5 balls at the newbie.  Against Steyn.  Brilliant tactics.  IMO 

Won't need the new ball here.  Crazy to take it IMO

WI players really are nothing more than a bunch of thick feckers

Near 2:30 in the morning here, with the new year test on soon, and can't go to bed.  This is the easiest money I have ever made.

Last 15 minutes proves ( if proof were needed } that there is a brain dead element within the West Indian psyche at the moment .

Shiv red inker - he'll love that.

Staggering shot by Taylor..

true Injera,

it's a tough call but look what has happened since he has gone. he could have porked his way to his hundred then started pushing once WI were in a safer position but if that one had cleared the rope what would have happened next?

All too predictable I guess

Samuels fell at 202

sorry 182 but this is carnage. Like I said yesterday, tricky conditions unless you are in

Yes, it's hard to go down a gear or 2 once you've accelerated. He put Windies in a decent position and then precipated a collapse.

I reckon Windies wanted 275 and 70 overs tomoz. That would only happen if someone took the game by the throat.

any chance of rain tom

another not out for Shiv no doubt!

That's pitiful from Shiv.

He has history of doing that. Why take the run???

well I am glad Shiv got run out. Why on earth take a single off the 5th ball? Playing for a not out again is shameful. He could have had a dart at harmer for an extra 15-20 runs.

As Key said, he's done it all his career. Seriously bad.

I am glad he called it too! Had to be said!

Bit of a myth regarding Chanderpaul.

Almost half of his not outs are in incomplete/declared innings.

Of his not outs where Windies have been bowled out, the last three wickets have averaged 45, compared to overall test figure of 50. Given the walking wickets Windies have had in recent times and Calypso collapsos, does not appear anything out of the ordinary.

stats don't tell thefyll story. He is a red inker in my book! even if he is a great player and has calypso collapso all around him. He is supposed to nurse the strike and score when opportune particularly if those around him are falling. He doesn't do that. he just sticks around ( respect ) but nothing above and beyond.

Agreed Whispering.

On a number of occasions he's taken a single off the first ball of an over when batting with numbers 10 and 11. It's been going on for years as is his refusal to bat higher in the order.

Draw finally the correct price on here. gawd knows why it was 110/120 last night