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topstertipster
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what's everyones thoughts on this?

Toss is again crucial in this as usual in this part of the world. Pakistan are due to lose the toss at some point and if they do then New Zealand look big value here, with both pak openers missing this time around. This may even make the draw price go v short if NZ bat well
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Report pxb November 16, 2014 11:35 PM GMT
Same as last match.

If Pak bat 1st, back to lay the draw.

If Nz bat 1st, lay the draw.

I could argue Pak is due for a batting collapse.
Report OzBattla November 17, 2014 1:37 AM GMT
Back in Dubai, some questions for Pakistan I guess with both openers doubtful. 1 draw from 7 matches in Dubai.. Will back draw to lay, toss clearly key..
Report kt22 November 17, 2014 1:21 PM GMT
Well played Latham
Report Darkforcesofevil November 17, 2014 4:30 PM GMT
More posts here than there were people in the stadium. Well done all
Report YOMOMMA November 17, 2014 5:12 PM GMT
Nobody watches or bets on Pakistan matches for obvious reasons.
Report OzBattla November 17, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
I certainly do..
Report kt22 November 18, 2014 5:25 AM GMT
I always do.
Report Blazing Boots November 18, 2014 6:29 AM GMT
I never do.
Report kt22 November 18, 2014 1:09 PM GMT
Good day for the Kiwis.
Report OzBattla November 19, 2014 12:43 AM GMT
In a good position with my book here. But have laid some NZ at 2.66. Pakistan have lost 2 wickets, but its the 2 new openers. Ali, Khan and Mishbah have been doing the damage, and wouldn't be shocked to see that continue here.
Report book November 19, 2014 9:36 AM GMT
pakistan are far too short at 4.4,draw looks massive at 1.53
Report OzBattla November 19, 2014 11:06 AM GMT
Time to lay the draw @ 1.40, seems to short to me, Pakistan still 200 behind... One more wicket and we could see a collapse with a decent lead for the Kiwis...
Report gazzzz November 19, 2014 3:06 PM GMT
How many runs do people think Pakistan will score I'm tempted to back under 365. People's thoughts???
Report gazzzz November 19, 2014 3:06 PM GMT
How many runs do people think Pakistan will score I'm tempted to back under 365. People's thoughts???
Report Charkitz November 20, 2014 8:35 AM GMT
Just checked the '1st Innings Lead' market. What's the go with the money matched on the tie at low odds? lol
Report pxb November 20, 2014 10:55 AM GMT
Just back from Indonesia where I hoped to bet in play on this, but BF now blocked there.

In OK shape from a couple of pre match bets.

If NZ only 3 or maybe 4 down at stumps I will be into the draw.
Report penbud November 20, 2014 2:28 PM GMT
match finely poised had bet on draw @1.89 kiwis get another 50 pak hopefully settle for draw
Report Charkitz November 20, 2014 5:18 PM GMT
Just did some research on Kiwis batting and was quite surprised to see how impressive Ross Taylor's career statistics are, he's by far any away NZ's best batsmen statistically. In fact his career batting average of 46 is better than Martin Crowe's average of 45 (though Kiwi pitches are flatter now than in Crowe's day), and is the second highest average for an NZ batsmen of all time.

The rest aren't much chop at all really, including McCullum who only averages 37, though Latham is obviously looking like a decent prospect.
Report OzBattla November 20, 2014 9:06 PM GMT
I am surprised to see the draw at 1.80/90 think this is a great price. With 1 day to play even if NZ give them 250 odd to chase with 60/70 overs I wonder if Pakistan will just play for the draw...
Report pxb November 20, 2014 9:24 PM GMT
Even 230 and I think Pak will settle for the draw.

Can't decide if 8s is a good price for a NZ win or not??
Report OzBattla November 20, 2014 11:28 PM GMT
pxb... I think it will trade lower. Pakistan have the 2 new openers who didn't get many in the 1st Inns. I think if they go cheaply chasing 220-250 they could get the speed wobbles, will be
Report tyco161 November 21, 2014 4:02 AM GMT
This is set up nicely for a final day. Cannot for the life of me see NZ getting 10 wickets in 60-70 odd overs but its cricket and anything is possible. Taylor is the key for NZ and if he goes cheaply its game on.
Report tyco161 November 21, 2014 4:14 AM GMT
Which one are you talking about KOD? Yes it would be handy if NZ did have a quality spinner. Sodhi has not played enough and offers up too many dollys at this stage of his career.
Report tyco161 November 21, 2014 7:24 AM GMT
Declaration by McCullum. Interestingly set up now.
Report the swede November 21, 2014 10:44 AM GMT
W coming in speed now. come on kiwis
Report tyco161 November 21, 2014 10:44 AM GMT
Is no one following this? Pakistan 4 down for 75 odd... Boult on fire and this is interesting.
Report OzBattla November 21, 2014 10:46 AM GMT
Very interesting.. Cmon Kiwis
Report DStyle November 21, 2014 10:54 AM GMT
i'm following it. kiwis need another pronto though, ideally younis, and then you get the full on panic in the pakistan dressing room, and we've got a game on
Report Whisperingdeath November 21, 2014 11:09 AM GMT
layed the draw with a shilling yesterday. Couldn't make myself back Pakistan, which, should have been the bet. Thought above 10's was attractive on NZ as a Hail Mary / Gary Owen but went for the draw lay.

This should be a draw but then both these sides have the capacity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory or in Pakistan's case just throw it!
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 11:26 AM GMT
Think NZ seriously need to look at dropping Watling, 11 runs from 43 balls when trying to set up a declaration in 2nd innings, 1st innings 39 runs from 120, has used up a whole session for 50 runs when kiwis have been looking to win this test
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 11:36 AM GMT
28 overs and they only need 144 runs the odds for a pakistan win are to high
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 11:40 AM GMT
maybe Happy
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 11:42 AM GMT
i think pak will play for the target only if they lose 6 wickets they will shut up shop, ive seen the great younis khan batter better bowlers around the park than these new zealand medium pacers, they guy can do one amazing innings
Report book November 21, 2014 11:47 AM GMT
not on this pitch,its a draw all day long & the light will intervene as well,so there probably wont be 28 overs
Report Whisperingdeath November 21, 2014 11:50 AM GMT
draw for me and I'm opposing it! just hoping for a little bit of musty!
Report pxb November 21, 2014 11:58 AM GMT
Took a punt on the draw.
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:01 PM GMT
sodhi is a cricket star you new zealand fans have to give him a long run, at least 40 test matches then you can get rid of him if he still under performs
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 12:06 PM GMT
kiwis bowling a part timer after tea, and only 2 slips Cry
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:06 PM GMT
judging my younis khans stance he is looking to batter nearly every ball for a 4 or 6 it is a very dangerous game to be backing this draw, also safraz in next
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:08 PM GMT
new zealand playing for draw very negative tatics really
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:09 PM GMT
get southee or boult on now lol, why they bowl part timers
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 12:11 PM GMT
and fielders on the boundary surly you want to invite the slog hit, the only way you can realistically win at this stage Shocked
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:15 PM GMT
what is watling doing keeping upto the stumps for boult, another stupid tatic from mccullum
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:19 PM GMT

Nov 21, 2014 -- 11:26AM, PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH wrote:


Think NZ seriously need to look at dropping Watling, 11 runs from 43 balls when trying to set up a declaration in 2nd innings, 1st innings 39 runs from 120, has used up a whole session for 50 runs when kiwis have been looking to win this test


watling used up 1 session wasteing time with his idiotic batting, ideally you want your keeper/batsman to be a agressive batter likes, gilchrist, boucher, safraz,

Report pxb November 21, 2014 12:24 PM GMT
Handshake in about 15 minutes.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 12:26 PM GMT
really, might still be 20 over to go Shocked
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 12:28 PM GMT
really have to question the mind set off some captains, that is why Clarke / dhoni are so good.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 12:35 PM GMT
9 an over last 2 Shocked
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
that 2 hours of watling wasteing balls cost new zealand 30 overs lol
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:55 PM GMT
are pakistan going for it now
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 12:56 PM GMT
Watling Cry
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 12:58 PM GMT
how many overs left
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 12:58 PM GMT
12
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 12:58 PM GMT
max
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 1:00 PM GMT
pakistan need a blistering 40 runs from safraz then they win this
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH November 21, 2014 1:01 PM GMT
Grin
Report pxb November 21, 2014 1:17 PM GMT
Jeez. Enough already.

Call the light.
Report pxb November 21, 2014 1:18 PM GMT
Or shake hands.
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 1:18 PM GMT
well done on that winner PXB
Report slip5 November 21, 2014 1:23 PM GMT
if Shafiq had a strike rate of 60 pakistan would have been closer to target, another poor innings from him
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