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By:
Injera
When: 25 Aug 13 19:41
Umpires often have the last word. I hate them with a passion. Idiots the lot of them.

RIP Test Cricket.

Ruined by bureaucracy.

How do you explain that to your kids or to casual cricket followers?
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 25 Aug 13 19:41


GRANTCKING
25 Aug 13 19:38
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   Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:37PM, ReaseHeath wrote:


    GRANTCKING25 Aug 13 19:34Joined:08 May 10| Topic/replies: 11,703 | Blogger: GRANTCKING's blog    Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:33PM, ReaseHeath wrote:    why would you back the tie with 18 overs to go when Oz needed 8 wckts for that scenario?why would they need 8 wickets?if the scores are level it's still a draw, it's only a tie if England are all out for 226.I would have thought you expert traders would know such an elementary law of the game.


no, its a tie also if scores are level with no more balls remaining


you've been watching too much one day cricket. Go and check the laws of the game.
By:
Cider
When: 25 Aug 13 19:41
Can't blame the umps they just implement the laws
By:
Dodgepicker
When: 25 Aug 13 19:41

Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:41PM, Injera wrote:


Umpires often have the last word. I hate them with a passion. Idiots the lot of them.RIP Test Cricket.Ruined by bureaucracy. How do you explain that to your kids or to casual cricket followers?


100% correct, bye cricket, i may be back for IPL, tests are a shambles

By:
GRANTCKING
When: 25 Aug 13 19:41

Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:40PM, BJT wrote:


The day you have a 5.5k result coming heath, I am sure you would laugh off 50 bucks just to protect it.

By:
viva el presidente!
When: 25 Aug 13 19:41
those last couple of minutes will have been painful for some market makers.
By:
ArmchairIdiot
When: 25 Aug 13 19:41
England needing quick runs, and bad light is a bad combo where safety of the fielders is concerned. If a fielder was smashed in the temple and died, the sh!t would have hit the fan
By:
cardshark
When: 25 Aug 13 19:42
I'm done with test cricket - I haven't missed a televised match in 15 years. I ain't watching it any more
By:
sageform
When: 25 Aug 13 19:42
The whole sport is a laughing stock. DRS is in disarray, umpires never do anything about slow play and a team can play for a draw after one day of a 5 day match. Then to end it all, they stop playing for light at the end of a cliff hanger when they have full floodlights on.
By:
peterinbury
When: 25 Aug 13 19:42
how can u say tests are shambles, here we are 3-0 up dead match and I have been on the edge of my seat for last 3 hours
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 25 Aug 13 19:42

Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:41PM, ReaseHeath wrote:


GRANTCKING25 Aug 13 19:38Joined:08 May 10| Topic/replies: 11,707 | Blogger: GRANTCKING's blog   Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:37PM, ReaseHeath wrote:    GRANTCKING25 Aug 13 19:34Joined:08 May 10| Topic/replies: 11,703 | Blogger: GRANTCKING's blog    Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:33PM, ReaseHeath wrote:    why would you back the tie with 18 overs to go when Oz needed 8 wckts for that scenario?why would they need 8 wickets?if the scores are level it's still a draw, it's only a tie if England are all out for 226.I would have thought you expert traders would know such an elementary law of the game.no, its a tie also if scores are level with no more balls remainingyou've been watching too much one day cricket. Go and check the laws of the game.


so what would the result be then? if scores are level with no more balls?

By:
Injera
When: 25 Aug 13 19:42
Umpires could and should have put 20k fans first.

Starc seemed to see the stumps fairly well.....

Hate this.
By:
peterinbury
When: 25 Aug 13 19:42
draw unless all wickets lost then tie
By:
betchat
When: 25 Aug 13 19:42
and they didn't even start until 11.30 am.  Dismal.
By:
BJT
When: 25 Aug 13 19:43
England got what they deserved.  They have made a mockery of the series with their delaying tactics.  The only fair result was to end the game with overs spare.  They have cost the series minimum 30 overs, so really bad luck.
By:
inspiron
When: 25 Aug 13 19:43
can't believe people on here, If England was in Australia possible they would be happy to come off for the bad light. Rules are rules and you can't just change it because of circumstances.
By:
peterinbury
When: 25 Aug 13 19:43

Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:42PM, Injera wrote:


Umpires could and should have put 20k fans first.Starc seemed to see the stumps fairly well.....Hate this.


rubbish, its like the referee of a cup final extending the game by 10 minutes cos its a good match

By:
pistachio
When: 25 Aug 13 19:43
Clark has gone down in my estimation.
By:
Dodgepicker
When: 25 Aug 13 19:43

Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:42PM, peterinbury wrote:


how can u say tests are shambles, here we are 3-0 up dead match and I have been on the edge of my seat for last 3 hours


im glad you find this result satisfactory, most wont

By:
slip5
When: 25 Aug 13 19:44
australia over rate was crap
By:
ArmchairIdiot
When: 25 Aug 13 19:44
Only people who lost dough are moaning. Neutrals or England fans that didnt have a bet wont give a toss.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 25 Aug 13 19:44
I'd back myself to outtrade you anytime BJT.

Twice on this thread you've shown you don't know the laws.

I made £79k on the match by the way.

See, anyone can aftertime a profit.

You're all wind and p1ss.

3-0 by the way.
By:
peterinbury
When: 25 Aug 13 19:44

Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:43PM, pistachio wrote:


Clark has gone down in my estimation.


had it have not been for clarke this match would have petered out into a boring draw

By:
ayt
When: 25 Aug 13 19:45
where is steview?not pakis involved in all that,,u can see what happened in that match
By:
Dodgepicker
When: 25 Aug 13 19:45

Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:44PM, peterinbury wrote:


Aug 25, 2013 --  7:43PM, pistachio wrote:Clark has gone down in my estimation.had it have not been for clarke this match would have petered out into a boring draw


it was

By:
Injera
When: 25 Aug 13 19:45
4 overs were OFFICIALLY left.

Umpires had to have the last word. Did Starc see the ball, pick it up and throw the wicket down?

Thought he could see quite well. Officials spoil it for the fans as always.

Sucks.
By:
Wallflower
When: 25 Aug 13 19:45
sewter lives again 25 Aug 13 19:41 
Wallflower not just England all test teams would have done the same

You got them same sunglasses as BJT

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Not at all. Completely objective throughout - only interest was my pocket. England players to their credit are not complaining.......they were bowling at 11 overs an hour, so there is some poetic justice in them running out of time. That's all.
By:
Cider
When: 25 Aug 13 19:45
Strict over rates need to be implemented.
By:
pistachio
When: 25 Aug 13 19:46
Well he wanted to get off quick enough. Spineless
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 Aug 13 19:46
boycott quite right, Clarke wants to make a game of it, then few overs left and a chance of losing hes all over umpires to go off for lights
By:
sideshowbob
When: 25 Aug 13 19:46
i lost nothing and im moaning that its a stupid way to end the match. i couldnt give a **** what the laws are, the laws are wrong. if the bowling side take forever, the law should be that they have to bowl all the overs unless the batting team want to go off.
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 25 Aug 13 19:46
draw if scores are level unless scores are level with batting team all out - then it's a tie.
By:
inspiron
When: 25 Aug 13 19:46
You don't know the laws of the game.
By:
Dodgepicker
When: 25 Aug 13 19:46
wallflower - true they dont care as they won 3-0, if they were 1 down and ended like this you wouldnt see the same reaction
By:
BJT
When: 25 Aug 13 19:46

Aug 25, 2013 -- 7:44PM, ReaseHeath wrote:


I'd back myself to outtrade you anytime BJT.Twice on this thread you've shown you don't know the laws.I made £79k on the match by the way.See, anyone can aftertime a profit.You're all wind and p1ss.3-0 by the way.


Where have I shown I don't know the laws?  Aftertime?  rotflmfao.  I was copping abuse from every angle saying the draw was a lay.

By:
ayt
When: 25 Aug 13 19:47
draw free money WAS NEVER IN DOUBT,
By:
Doctor Feelgood
When: 25 Aug 13 19:47
Did anyone seriously expect the umpires to unilaterally overrule the playing conditions agreed at the start of the series?
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 25 Aug 13 19:48
I should think there are 20 thousand fans , many of them who did not have a bet, who are extremely pissed off. That was one of the worst decisions ever made in sport.
By:
peterinbury
When: 25 Aug 13 19:50
i said at tea that they would not have 44 overs to bat, was surprised that they got 40 overs and all the time the clueless gower kept saying, time is not of the essence we have to play for 44 overs
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 25 Aug 13 19:50
the problem is the rules, not the umpires.
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