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Most awaiting series of 2013 is just under a week away.
England looks well balanced in their bowling but i am little concerned about their batting
with Compton set to drop and root to open with bairstow in the middle order.
Australia looks better than they were before lehmann.
their batting/bowling looks unsettled but with watson/rogers opening and cowan at 3
looks less flaky. expecting a good fight from australia.
my teams
England Australia
Cook Watson
Root Rogers
Trott Cowan
K.P Clarke
Bell Hughes
Bairstow Khwaja
Prior Haddin
Swann Starc
Broad Siddle
Anderson Pattinson
Finn Lyon
my bets:
i am not expecting a england train so laying them around 2 with plans to back them later around 3-4 and making a green book.
also planning to lay draw if it goes around evens in-play.
Good Luck
England looks well balanced in their bowling but i am little concerned about their batting
with Compton set to drop and root to open with bairstow in the middle order.
Australia looks better than they were before lehmann.
their batting/bowling looks unsettled but with watson/rogers opening and cowan at 3
looks less flaky. expecting a good fight from australia.
my teams
England Australia
Cook Watson
Root Rogers
Trott Cowan
K.P Clarke
Bell Hughes
Bairstow Khwaja
Prior Haddin
Swann Starc
Broad Siddle
Anderson Pattinson
Finn Lyon
my bets:
i am not expecting a england train so laying them around 2 with plans to back them later around 3-4 and making a green book.
also planning to lay draw if it goes around evens in-play.
Good Luck
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no.6 for Australia is more likely to be Smith
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does anybody know where i can get a price for england to win the series to 0?
i don't want to bet on the correct score, just to win to 0. thanks in advance. |
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Australia to win a test NO would be a start though obviously doesn't imply england win one
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just dutch 3, 4 and 5 nil correct scores. you can surely forget 1 and 2 nil. don't get many draws in england and hard to see australia making enough runs on a consistent basis for the draw to be much of a runner without a lot of rain
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I think the teams are rather more evenly matched than the odds would indicate.
Looks like we will get 5 full days, so I'll start off laying the draw. Then lay England if they go well under evens. |
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the weather in england has become so unpredictable that i cannot back england at the prices. if i could get 2/1 for england to win the series to 0 i would be all over it. gonna email a few bookies and see what they will lay.
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6 days before day 1 and 10 days before day 5 I can't possibly trust any weather forecast even one as promising as this one
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I can't see England winning to 0, that's for sure, as England are on a slight decline at the moment and Australia can only improve, it will only take one top spell of bowling in the series by an Australian, and as, has been seen in the past, England completely collapse once in most series.
1/ Alistair Cook - Not scoring quite as many runs or playing big innings as he used to. That could change of course. 2/ Jo Root - Has done ok batting at no 5/6 against an average NZ attack. How will he do opening the batting though at International Level. 3/ Jonathan Trott - An outstanding no 3 and will be Englands leading run scorer, in this series. 4/ Kevin Pieterson - Loves playing in the big series, will score plenty of runs, but will have some low scores as well 5/ Ian Bell - Should score plenty, but the Aussies will fill the slips up, as this is where his weakness is 6/ Johnny Bairstow - Has done ok for England, but will get peppered by the short ball and time will tell how he does in this series 7/ Matt Prior - Will score quick runs and can bail England out of big trouble or strengthen a good position quickly 8/ Stuart Broad - Good with the bat at no 8 will probably average between 20/30 in this series 9/ Graeme Swann - His hard hitting at no 9 could disrupt the Aussies and 2/3 late flurries will happen in this series. 10/Steven Finn - Can defend and attack, when needed to, but hope he is selected in front of Tim Bressnan, because he is a tall bowler with bounce. 11/Jimmy Anderson - Hard to get out these days and can hang around if a mainline batsmen is in,. However, I can still see one big collapse somewhere in the series and I would rather go with a 3-1 England win, than a 3-0 or 4-0. In England you have to allow for one match to be badly disrupted by the weather. Also I think the Australian side will fight hard in this series, being big, big, outsiders and it could be one of the lesser known bowlers has a good series. Its sport, so you never know. |
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England genuinely bat down to 9, Swann got a ton the other day. Do the Aussies? I don't think so. Aussies batting looks much weaker IMO. They did the right thing by getting rid of Arthur, sometimes whether it's fair on someone or not, you have to move on and wipe the slate clean. It will be closer than people think.
I have no idea why people are panicking about the weather, it's set fair for a couple of weeks, if time is missed it won't be much and will be made up. |
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lay oz collect in 4 1/2 days.
done. |
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Of course they do. Ever heard of Nathan Lyon? Top scored against South Africa a couple of years ago.
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I'm still smarting from Sharma's 17th over in the Champs Trophy final
 oucchh...thought i wasn't any more emotionally attached to the outcome of games involving England ...Good to see Lou Vincent back on the forum  Expecting a one sided Ashes series this summer and thats not because of my book or because i want England to win , I genuinely see this as a great opportunity to exact revenge on an Australian side that ,in the past ,have been ruthless towards their opponents , now its time for the tables to be turned . Australia will have their moments , but in the end ,I can see nothing other than a comfortable Ashes series victory for England ... |
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DirkDiggler 05 Jul 13 10:30
England genuinely bat down to 9, Swann got a ton the other day. Do the Aussies? I don't think so. Joel 05 Jul 13 10:42 Of course they do. Ever heard of Nathan Lyon? Top scored against South Africa a couple of years ago. http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-australia-2011/engine/match/514029.html (for those of you that don't remember one of the most amusing Tests of recent times. |
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Oz will win at least one test IMO
they have a good pace attack well-suited to English conditions even with KP back I can still see our batting collapsing in at least one of the tests and we are too gentlemanly to prepare an absolute bunsen unless the series is level going into the final test at the Oval |
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In fairness Starc, Siddle and Pattinson can all hold a bat so we can't rule out the tail wagging. Didn't Starc score 99 in a test recently?
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Advance weather forecast is very good - looks zero chance of rain currently.
Trent Bridge a result venue even if the sun shines. Currently bringing some series correct scores onside based on 5 results. |
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ime kicking off with a lay of the hosts 2.06
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Won't be a draw so laying accordingly. Good luck gentleman!
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Looking forward to having a bet again after such a long period without Test cricket.
Agree with Paul and start with a small lay of the draw with a view to topping up if the draw price contracts. |
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Against the draw, will raise that as we go. Pitch will be dry and turning quickly, reverse and swing with the new nut. All over in 3.5-4 days, job done. Aus value DnB.
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I can see both sides making modest scores first up, then Swann wins it for Eng. Normally, I'd look to cover most of my early draw lay before start of play, but won't this time.
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@DirkDiggler the Australian tail is far better than ours. Broad, Swann and Bresnan haven't got test runs in a long, long time. You can't take what they did against that mug Essex bowling to mean anything.
Australia's probable 8-11: Mitchell Starc 14 innings, 32.7 average James Pattinson 14 innings, 28.77 average Peter Siddle 58 innings, 15.76 average Nathan Lyon 29 innings, 14.5 average |
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How important is the toss on this wicket?
England might be stronger batting wise and have the better spinner but Lyon is not as bad a s some people think. I think I would be happier waiting to see who bats first and see how the pitch plays and what swing there is particularly late afternoon and also when will it start to reverse. Tough ask this but I am going to try to hold off throwing money till after tea, but I am not sure if I can do that! |
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anyone know of a stream to watch the match ?
TIA |
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normally a draw layer but a bit concerned about the wicket, v different from previous test wickets here , loads of runs scored this season , centuries and double centuries , looks like it will spin later, but if Oz win the toss and bat well the first morning , the draw will dive v quickly
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just found this -
"But Graeme Swann and Stuart Broad have already passed on to Anderson that conditions at Trent Bridge this season have not been favouring the Nottinghamshire seam bowlers. The last two County Championship matches at the ground have petered out into draws with a total of 1,811 runs scored for the loss of only 31 wickets." |
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might take a lump on the draw... 3 to high.. will plummett after 5 mins
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the draw will be 50 ticks lower within 5 overs... unless there are wickets of course
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england 5-0 at 16/1
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Wonderful programme BBC4 Kerry Packers War, brilliant haircuts!
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For me England were cracking value for me. I backed them at 2.08 and 2.06 back in may and having seen the weather forecast I had some more at 2.02 and 2.04 on saturday for the following reasons;
1. The last ashes was a thumping 6-1 margin for England(I say 6-1 because I count 2 for each of the 3 innings wins) and that was in Australia, this is in England. 2. Australia had a stronger team then. They have since lost Ponting and Hussey. The latter a huge loss and his retirement somewhat surprising considering his outstanding form before and since then(leading runscorer in IPL 2013) 3. England are probably a bit stronger now than in 2010/11. Most of the players are at an age when they should be at or close to their peak, and Root, Bairstow and Finn are still improving. Losing Struass and Collingwood is not on the same level as losing 2 world class players in Hussey and Ponting and the replacements in Root and Bairstow are better. 4. In the last 10 years there have been 9 tests at Trent Bridge with 7 England wins 2 losses and 0 draws. 5. Australias dubious selection policy in blending old age with inexperience(37 years old, 1 test cap) |
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6. The weather forecast is saying no rain for all 5 days
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By the way I ran out of room on 5 I was talking about Rogers. I checked on cricinfo and the average for a batsman over 35 on debut in batting positions 1-6 is only 24.75
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yeah but he is not on debut!
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yeah but he is not on debut!
I realise that he had 1 match 10 years ago so not much difference |
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Aussies are not going to roll over I'm afraid! I like the look of their team and think that it will be a close series.
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the ashes will be streamed live on youtube?
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