Forums
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
nigelpm1
18 Feb 13 12:27
Joined:
Date Joined: 10 Jan 02
| Topic/replies: 6,725 | Blogger: nigelpm1's blog
Early thoughts....

It's not a result wicket :

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/ground/58008.html?class=1;template=results;type=aggregate

30 matches, 11 draws

No chance of rain.

http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-INXX0202?cm_ven=cricinfo_UK&cm_cat=grounds&cm_ite=weather&cm_pla=10day

Could be opportunities to lay draw if goes odds on

Post your reply

Text Format: Table: Smilies:
Forum does not support HTML
Insert Photo
Cancel
Page 1 of 4  •  Previous 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Next
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 158
By:
nigelpm1
When: 18 Feb 13 12:28
Current BF odds :

India 2.36
Australia 4.3
Draw 2.8
By:
Lix
When: 19 Feb 13 10:16
expecting a dead track here with nothing for the seamers. wkts likely to be from batters getting impatient. tempted to lay aus for this match. think they can compete better in the other games.
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 19 Feb 13 12:31
What's the deal with Twatto this series? Are we expecting him to bat at 4? And definitely not bowl?
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 19 Feb 13 12:46
Also who is this Moses Henriques - is he likely to get a game, and is he any good?

Really looking forward to this series - just trying to get a handle on the balance of the Oz team.
By:
Joel
When: 20 Feb 13 02:39
Watson will bat at 4 if Warner plays and open if he doesn't I think.

Moises isnt very good.
By:
elchic
When: 20 Feb 13 02:39
henriques - average lower order batsman, average medium pacer. no threat in either pursuit. unlikely to play though as I expect Aus to play 3 seamers plus lyon & maxwell as an spinning 'all-rounder'. twatto won't bowl. he/clarke/warner the keys if aus are to compete. clarke the only one though who won't mind the slow spinning tracks. others to be all at sea. lay aus or back india for me. yet to decide.
By:
Joel
When: 20 Feb 13 07:25
Moises will be playing in the first test.
By:
lou-vincent
When: 20 Feb 13 07:58
was thinking of laying india big but after knowing that dharmsena and erasmus will be umpiring in first 2 test dropped that idea and will lay draw instead.
By:
Blake84
When: 20 Feb 13 08:22
I can't get over Australia's team selection either Doherty or Maxwell had to play. Not that Maxwell would do the job of a second spinner but all they have to help Lyon is Clarke and Warner with a fractured thumb.
By:
lanza
When: 20 Feb 13 08:34
thinking bout this match: our old anger therapy thread comes to mind, esp if india bat first. CoolLaugh
By:
JustWinBaby
When: 20 Feb 13 10:59
Oportos chains around Australia must be proud with the news that Henriques will be making his debut
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 20 Feb 13 12:40
Australia team for first Test with India: Ed Cowan, David Warner, Phil Hughes, Shane Watson, Michael Clarke (captain), Matthew Wade (wicketkeeper), Moises Henriques, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Starc, James Pattinson, Nathan Lyon.

Plenty of batting scope there (ableit inconsistent) - more of a worry as to where 20 wickets are going to come from in India?
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 20 Feb 13 12:41
Considering a back-to-lay on the draw for the first time in a while here.
By:
sonofshinner
When: 20 Feb 13 12:56
people seem to be writing the aussies off,if england can do it.ill be laying india @1.72 series winner.expect 1st test draw.
By:
Lix
When: 20 Feb 13 13:04
eng are a much better test team than aus. crucially we had two world class spinners which is quite handy in india.
By:
mafeking
When: 20 Feb 13 15:12
2 extremely ropey batting line ups on show here although india may get away with it at home cos the aussies have no spinner in the class of swann or panesar nor anyone close to jimmy anderson
By:
Injera
When: 20 Feb 13 18:05
What jumps off the page is how far Australia have fallen. It's staggering.

Their expected team is about as weak as I've ever seen from Down Under. Kim Hughes side wasn't as bad as this lot.

Fascinating series in prospect. 2 teams in transition, to say the least... Prices will often be determined by reputation rather than substance so this could get interesting.Grin
By:
mafeking
When: 20 Feb 13 19:01
yep the prospective top 6 for the summer looks horrific. you can see jimmy and steve finn running amok several times in the series. time and time again in the last couple of years they've been found wanting against the swinging ball
By:
Conch
When: 20 Feb 13 22:14
Don't think australia are as bad as all that, expect them to go better than the odds suggest in the ashes. Less convinced in India because of the lack of spin but india wont exactly be full of confidence.
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 20 Feb 13 22:42
I am also not under-rating Oz in the Ashes.

Since the Sydney defeat in the Ashes Oz have only lost three test matches - twice against the Saffers in competitive series and once against the Kiwis by 7 runs in a low scoring shoot-out. That passage of games includes a 4-0 pasting of India at home. England by contrast have lost seven test matches in the same period.

As Injera notes above India's home 'reputation' pricing could be very interesting here - India behind Oz in the ICC test rankings as well
By:
Lix
When: 20 Feb 13 22:45
yeah that ODI recently in Sydney where Kulashaker was swinging it both ways was funny. aus  bats horrific against lateral movement these days. Huss missing is HUGE for the ashes which is why a 2+ match eng win series margin is on the cards for the 1st time in a while.

Aus bowlers will have their moments tho no doubt.

(althoughh they are all pretty injury prone as is the skipper Pup !ShockedGrin )
By:
ChocIce
When: 20 Feb 13 23:11
Roll up roll up, dry pitch folks. Just had a chunky draw lay putting the profit on India's side.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournament/australia-in-india-2013/top-stories/A-battle-between-Indian-spinners-and-Australian-pacers/articleshow/18600597.cms
By:
mafeking
When: 20 Feb 13 23:13
despite often being patched up don't think pup's missed a test since his debut. he'll need to get a double every test if they're gonna make a real fist of it
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 21 Feb 13 08:54
ROFL at India picking Bhaji - where does that come from? Plenty of doubts about the India side as well.
By:
Gimpida
When: 21 Feb 13 09:04
Toss crucial. Australia can only win if they bat first.

Best back draw now and lay at odds on after first innings perhaps.
By:
d13phe
When: 21 Feb 13 11:35
no DRS means Draw should be a factor.

would love to see some stats comparing results in DRS games vs results in non DRS games

i definitely think a results is more likely in games with DRS
By:
kingmax
When: 21 Feb 13 13:16
no DRS should = we are not playing then! enjoy no test cricket until you grow up!
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 21 Feb 13 13:21
Conch     20 Feb 13 22:14 
Don't think australia are as bad as all that, expect them to go better than the odds suggest in the ashes. Less convinced in India because of the lack of spin but india wont exactly be full of confidence.


Don't think any of the Indians lack confidence. If anything their problem is the opposite. The trouble is that they no longer care. There's less than 6 weeks until the IPL, and I can imagine plenty of them will have "avoiding injury" as their number-one priority in this series.
By:
Lix
When: 21 Feb 13 13:31
thats a very good point about the IPL coming up. dont expect to see much diving about to stop a couple of runs
on the boundary. I do think India's bats  are suffering a lack of confidence. they are short of runs. simple as that.
Tendulkar not scored a ton in yonks, same with Kohli and dhoni etc.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 21 Feb 13 13:47
Yes, Lix. You (and Conch) are probably right.

Their batsmen (and their bowlers) must be lacking confidence in Tests after all that's happened to them in the last couple of years. What I really meant was that they seem to have rationalized it as a case of Tests therefore being unimportant and just for losers who wish they were playing IPL.

The likes of Sehwag, Kohli and Ashwin don't seem to lack any confidence in the way they play the one-day formats.
By:
Lix
When: 21 Feb 13 13:55
Kohli and Sehwag not scored many ODI runs recently either.. Sad Think aus can put them under a lot of
pressure this series.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 21 Feb 13 16:28
Bloody hell! You're right about Kohli! I had clearly fallen into his trap of mistaking gobby confidence for solid achievement.

Recent matches
Bat & Bowl    Team    Opposition    Ground    Match Date    Scorecard
0    India    v England    Dharamsala    27 Jan 2013    ODI # 3329
26    India    v England    Mohali    23 Jan 2013    ODI # 3327
77*    India    v England    Ranchi    19 Jan 2013    ODI # 3322
37    India    v England    Kochi    15 Jan 2013    ODI # 3320
0/9, 15    India    v England    Rajkot    11 Jan 2013    ODI # 3318
7    India    v Pakistan    Delhi    6 Jan 2013    ODI # 3316
6    India    v Pakistan    Kolkata    3 Jan 2013    ODI # 3315
0, 0/21    India    v Pakistan    Chennai    30 Dec 2012    ODI # 3314
27    India    v Pakistan    Ahmedabad    28 Dec 2012    T20I # 298
9, 0/21    India    v Pakistan    Bangalore    25 Dec 2012    T20I # 296

Coming after his Test failures vs England, he's starting to look like the Ravi Bopara of the Himalayas.
By:
Injera
When: 21 Feb 13 18:28
A daunting schedule for Australia in 2 contrasting playing conditions. I can see why Hussey chose now to pull out.

This tour gives us little insight into how they will perform in England but will give clues as to their mentality. I would have left Pattinson at home in cotton wool, with a view to getting some county cricket in April, May.

I expect India to win based purely on their spin options compared with Australia's. Steve Smith....?
By:
TwoTonTed
When: 21 Feb 13 19:06
and if they fail to actually spin anything as was the case vs England, Inj?

No bet for me, too many variables, though will no doubt be looking to back high and lay lowCoolDevil
By:
twizzle22
When: 21 Feb 13 20:59
13/2 NO century in the match surely to big with 365..only 11/4 with s/j
By:
cricketjon
When: 21 Feb 13 21:32
Not since ITV plc's catastrophic acquisition of Friends Reunited for £130m ten years ago have i seen such a flawed strategy by management. It beggars belief that there are not better players around but there have been some eye catching selections by the Aussie management for this series. The notion that Glenn Maxwell (despite his self proclaimed X factor billing) is a Test cricketer has, for me, the potential to be a triumph of hope over expectation. There is no credible way of arguing that Stephen Smith has a technique that gives him "the tools" to be a Test batsman, however I got side stepped in my analysis and recalled that he is a bowler. It is at this point that my views and those of the Aussie selectors become irreversibly polarised.

This series has the potential to be watershed for Ed Cowan but that is as the selectors see it - not me. He likes the ball coming onto the bat and I think we are all agreed that the classic cocktail of India's "pace attack" and their pitches falls some way short of "the tools required in place for Cowan to excel"

Australia are a much stronger side at home than away and it was some surprise to me that South Africa had to get to the Perth Test courtesy of an unlikely but pleasing innings from FAF to break the spine of Australia's home pursuit of a series win over SA. Nonetheless, Australia were nuggety at home but the haunting melody of battings collapses which beseiged them at Leeds in 2010 and Melbourne in the same year and Newlands a year later rang loud and clear on a number of occasions.

India are not strong and they care little for the 5 day format but they are too strong for Australia. Punting wise there should be some good opportuities.
By:
TwoTonTed
When: 21 Feb 13 21:47
Lovequality stuff cj
By:
rob_dylan
When: 22 Feb 13 05:33
Henriques batting at seven, Siddle at wight.  Their batting does look horrific, but they are 89/2 yet the draw is still 3/1, surprising, wish I had laid it at 2.75 now, anyone know when it drifted so much?  Before or after kick off?
By:
rob_dylan
When: 22 Feb 13 05:40
93/2 and now drifted to 4.2.  They do have a v.long tail but surprised at this price, not a bad start.  India at 2.1 look a lay too, or back aus at 3.3.
Page 1 of 4  •  Previous 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Next
sort by:
Show
per page

Post your reply

Text Format: Table: Smilies:
Forum does not support HTML
Insert Photo
Cancel
‹ back to topics
www.betfair.com