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Just Checking
12 Jun 20 13:31
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Won't see this expert stating such facts on the BBC or Channel 4 anytime soon.
“The number of whites who were enslaved in North Africa by the Barbary pirates exceeded the number of Africans enslaved in the United States and in the American colonies before that put together.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uevbYrS9kRw

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By:
Just Checking
When: 12 Jun 20 13:32
typo in subject line deliberate, as usual.
By:
Just Checking
When: 12 Jun 20 13:34
Also: https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1270698452486361089
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 12 Jun 20 13:49
What about?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 12 Jun 20 13:52
But the enslavers tended to be more of Arab origin...than black Africans??????

Anyway nobody is responsible for what our forebears did, so we do not have to apologise for them
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 12 Jun 20 13:53
What about?

Silence is violence.
By:
Angoose
When: 12 Jun 20 13:53
There are many untold stories out there, never too late to expand your knowledge base.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 12 Jun 20 13:56
Didn't we get this same story already on here

Probably same poster

Forgot he had already done this forum?
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 12 Jun 20 13:57
The ...........................Guardian  Grin shone sunlight on white slavery 16 years ago, mainly North African muslims some forumites will be delighted to hear.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/mar/11/highereducation.books
By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 13:58
YOU WON'T HEAR THE LEFT TALK ABOUT THIS!!!
By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 13:59
Thomas Sowell is part of the token black conservative group that reactionaries quote to try and deny structural issues
By:
Angoose
When: 12 Jun 20 14:00
Didn't ford have a model named the Corsair Confused
By:
Just Checking
When: 12 Jun 20 14:00
Can't argue with facts, attack the man. Always pathetic.
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Jun 20 14:03
North African pirates abducted and enslaved more than 1 million Europeans between 1530 and 1780 in a series of raids which depopulated coastal towns from Sicily to Cornwall, according to new research.
Thousands of white Christians were seized every year to work as galley slaves, labourers and concubines for Muslim overlords in what is today Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Libya, it is claimed.

Deary Me Shocked
By:
Just Checking
When: 12 Jun 20 14:07
Yes casemony I posted about this on my "shores of Tripoli" thread. I'll post relevant part of that below:

North Africans (and Turks) enslaving Europeans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

"Pirate raids for the acquisition of slaves occurred in towns and villages on the African Atlantic seaboard, as well as in Europe. Reports of Barbary raids and kidnappings of those in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, England, Netherlands, Ireland, Scotland, and as far north as Iceland exist from between the 16th to the 19th centuries. It is estimated that between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by pirates and sold as slaves in Tunis, Algiers and Tripoli during this time period. The slave trade in Europeans in other parts of the Mediterranean is not included in this estimation"
"Such raids in the Mediterranean were so frequent and devastating that the coastline between Venice and Malaga[16] suffered widespread depopulation, and settlement there was discouraged. In fact, it was said that "there was no one left to capture any longer."
"Supplies from the Black Sea appear to have been even larger. A compilation of partial statistics and patchy estimates indicates that almost 2 million Russians, Ukrainians, and Poles were seized from 1468 to 1694. Additionally, there were slaves from the Caucasus obtained by a mixture of raiding and trading. 16th- and 17th-century customs statistics suggest that Istanbul's slave import from the Black Sea may have totaled around 2.5 million from 1450 to 1700."

I await the BBC documentary about this with baited breath.
By:
Just Checking
When: 12 Jun 20 14:10
The point being, as made in that short video clip so well, is that Slavery was never something some white people did to black people as our media love to portray. It's something humans have been doing to other humans, including black to black and black to white, since forever. I mean the OLD testament talks about it at length, which might be a clue.
By:
Charlie
When: 12 Jun 20 15:07

Jun 12, 2020 -- 2:10PM, Just Checking wrote:


The point being, as made in that short video clip so well, is that Slavery was never something some white people did to black people as our media love to portray. It's something humans have been doing to other humans, including black to black and black to white, since forever. I mean the OLD testament talks about it at length, which might be a clue.


Slavery was never something some white people did to black people as our media love to portray

I don't know anyone who is saying that.
When it comes to the Premier League of slave traders Britain was top with over 3 million.

By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 12 Jun 20 15:09
It also implies that the Africans who sold the slaves in the first place were joint-top.

It is a trade, after all. There had to be a seller as well as a buyer.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 12 Jun 20 15:15
I accept that Charlie

But is continually referring back to the Slave trade...actually helping us now?

This protest was originally over the death of George Floyd for which I still need to see justice

I trust we will in time.
By:
saddo
When: 12 Jun 20 15:37
The BBC reported that the Barbary raids were largely peaceful.
By:
Just Checking
When: 12 Jun 20 15:40
SillyLaughLaughLaugh
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 12 Jun 20 15:41
????? How can they be peaceful....men were being kidnapped for slavery
By:
dave1357
When: 12 Jun 20 15:42
Every day the right wing useful idiots make more ludicrous points as the idiots they voted for laugh at them.
By:
saddo
When: 12 Jun 20 15:43
It'll all come out in the wash dave, if them BLM cowards ever turn up to some opposition.
By:
Just Checking
When: 12 Jun 20 15:44
"How can they be peaceful....men were being kidnapped for slavery"
UBLE he's making a joke about the BBC the other day having the (now ripped apart) pathetically BBC headline of:
"27 police officers injured during largely peaceful anti-racism protests in London"
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 12 Jun 20 15:48
I knew really justcheckingBlush

27 Officers injured in peaceful protests....another one
By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 16:19

Jun 12, 2020 -- 3:42PM, dave1357 wrote:


Every day the right wing useful idiots make more ludicrous points as the idiots they voted for laugh at them.


They are all thinking too freely for us

By:
Platini
When: 12 Jun 20 16:24
Slavery was invented in the 19th century

either that or the SJW's virtuous time machine doesn't go back any further than that Laugh
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 12 Jun 20 16:27

Jun 12, 2020 -- 3:48PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:


I knew really justchecking27 Officers injured in peaceful protests....another one


If we defund and get rid of the police the none will get injured.

By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 16:30
Defund doesn't not mean abolish for most as you well know IT
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 12 Jun 20 16:39
What does it mean then?
By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 16:47
It means to cut their funding and divert funding to
1) places that can solve issues the police would previously deal with as a first response. Treat drugs as a medical issue, homelessness as a housing issue, mental health as a health issue. If a qualified professional had attended to the new fake cause of choice - Tony Timpa- its very unlikely he would have ended up dead
2) investing more into things where the lack of investment can cause places to be a breeding ground for crime. Education, housing, jobs etc

Police budget trump the budget for so many other services and engaging in preventative measures is clearly a more sensible route than reactive measures
By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 16:51
Some are abolitionists who I'm not fully sure of what the full stance is there but the mainstream defund the police stance is as above
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 12 Jun 20 16:51
Treat drugs as a medical issue, homelessness as a housing issue, mental health as a health issue.

What? Police are first responders to drug use, homelesness and mental health issues. You don't half talk a load of nonsense.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 12 Jun 20 16:54

Jun 12, 2020 -- 4:30PM, aaronh wrote:


Defund doesn't not mean abolish for most as you well know IT


For many it does. Look what happened to Jacob Fry, the major of Minneapolis when he said he would not support abolishing the police...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5OYO9aipa8

Also BLM campaigner Gary McFarlane  is crystal clear that he want UK police to be abolished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UoA2RHLlww

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 12 Jun 20 16:54
Mayor not major!
By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 16:56

Jun 12, 2020 -- 4:51PM, Shrewd_dude wrote:


Treat drugs as a medical issue, homelessness as a housing issue, mental health as a health issue.What? Police are first responders to drug use, homelesness and mental health issues. You don't half talk a load of nonsense.


And the point is that they shouldn't be

By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 12 Jun 20 16:58
And the point is they aren't although in fairness I think I missed a second questions mark.
By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 17:01
Confused
By:
aaronh
When: 12 Jun 20 17:03
The police deal with all of those things, especially in the US.
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