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The mob going out today in Oxford.

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By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 11:29
good
By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 11:30
Students at Oxford University have voted in favour of removing the statue of 19th century colonialist Sir Cecil Rhodes from Oriel College.

The result of the non-binding vote at the Oxford Union was 245 votes for the motion and 212 against.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35359530
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 09 Jun 20 11:33
It is not up to a transient student population from 4 years ago what happens to our nation's historical monuments.
By:
lovegod
When: 09 Jun 20 11:34
Is the Mandela statue on the list? After all he was a terrorist or do we overlook his past?
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Jun 20 11:34
48/52 ish
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 09 Jun 20 11:38
The 20 somethings we currently have are very radical.....and the generation that will follow them will be even more so.....you lot better get used to direct action. 

You will be seeing a lot of it in future.
By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 11:39

Jun 9, 2020 -- 11:33AM, InsiderTrader wrote:


It is not up to a transient student population from 4 years ago what happens to our nation's historical monuments.


remove the statue by democratic means!!!
vote to remove the statue goes in favour of doing so

and then all the rich backers of the university had a hissy fit and refused to keep giving money if it went

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 09 Jun 20 11:42
Democratic means would mean asking everyone not just radical students.
By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 11:45
yes, having a referendum on each statue sounds a good idea
By:
lord skywalker
When: 09 Jun 20 11:46
Wow! mandela was never a terrorist on any level he was fighting a racist government hell bent on separating whites from blacks and was wrongfully imprisoned for doing so, he will always be a hero.
By:
macarony
When: 09 Jun 20 11:48
@cardinal Scott  I said on another thread that we are heading for a situation like the troubles in NI twof groups who hate each other and will never get along we might have periods for calm in between the flare ups but the days of a united people are over imo
By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 11:48
we have 2 statues where public support for it to go was there but rich and influential people stamped their feet
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Jun 20 11:48

Jun 9, 2020 -- 11:29AM, aaronh wrote:


good


Great to see you standing up for such a worthy bunch of tw@ts. Historically a bunch to be mighty proud of..............NOT!

I can't be arsed to educate you, so do your own research. Here's your starter for 10, C&P from wikki.

The King and Country Debate was a debate on 9 February 1933 at The Oxford Union Society. The motion presented, "This House will under no circumstances fight for its King and country," passed at 275 votes for the motion and 153 against it. The motion would later be named "the Oxford Oath" or "the Oxford Pledge".

It became one of the most controversial topics held within the Union, driving debate between the older and younger generations about patriotism and pacifism,

They voted for a 'free' ride for Hitler. Good men died to keep those barstewards free!. Wind your ignorant neck in. HTH.

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 09 Jun 20 11:49
On balance Mandela probably did good. As did Gandhi.
By:
lord skywalker
When: 09 Jun 20 11:51
Leave history alone and focus on the future
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 09 Jun 20 11:54
I said on another thread that we are heading for a situation like the troubles in NI two groups who hate each other and will never get along we might have periods for calm in between the flare ups but the days of a united people are over imo

Very sadly you might be right. it is like that in America. People tend to socialise with either republicans or democrats at a certain level. There is sometimes speculation about how they voted and they are judged for it.

Hopefully like we have seen the planet recover from us we can recover from ourselves. Good manners have no politics, certainly away from internet forums.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Jun 20 11:56

Jun 9, 2020 -- 11:51AM, lord skywalker wrote:


Leave history alone and focus on the future


^^^ LS we don't wan't to learn our past mistakes do we.Crazy

By:
alun2005
When: 09 Jun 20 11:56
What time have the thugs set aside for their visit to Highgate Cemetery to destroy the memorial statue of the appalling anti-semite Karl Marx? 

That must be top of the statue-toppling list, because I keep reading that Labour voting thugs hate any sort of anti-semitism. Right?
By:
lord skywalker
When: 09 Jun 20 11:57
Labour mp's now jumping on the bandwagon to rename every street/building in the uk that has a link to slavery, good luck with that
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 09 Jun 20 11:58

Jun 9, 2020 -- 11:56AM, alun2005 wrote:


What time have the thugs set aside for their visit to Highgate Cemetery to destroy the memorial statue of the appalling anti-semite Karl Marx?  That must be top of the statue-toppling list, because I keep reading that Labour voting thugs hate any sort of anti-semitism. Right?


Karl Max was Jewish

By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Jun 20 11:59
alun spot on as usual. Wink
By:
politicspunter
When: 09 Jun 20 12:00

Jun 9, 2020 -- 11:57AM, lord skywalker wrote:


Labour mp's now jumping on the bandwagon to rename every street/building in the uk that has a link to slavery, good luck with that


I think that is a fairly common thing, not just slavery etc. Loved the one in Glasgow where the South African Embassy was based at the height of apartheid. The council changed the name of the location to Nelson Mandela Square.

By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 09 Jun 20 12:00
Missed my r
By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 12:00

Jun 9, 2020 -- 11:56AM, boxingthefox wrote:


Jun  9, 2020 -- 10:51AM, lord skywalker wrote:Leave history alone and focus on the future^^^ LS we don't wan't to learn our past mistakes do we.


how will we ever learn about history with whitewashed statues Cry

more people know about Colston and his links now than ever before

By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 12:02

Jun 9, 2020 -- 11:56AM, alun2005 wrote:


What time have the thugs set aside for their visit to Highgate Cemetery to destroy the memorial statue of the appalling anti-semite Karl Marx?  That must be top of the statue-toppling list, because I keep reading that Labour voting thugs hate any sort of anti-semitism. Right?


this forum spent months complaining about antisemitism and has been deadly silent on literal nazi propaganda posted on this very forum Cool

By:
edy
When: 09 Jun 20 12:03
True, I've been left completely alone by you guys in my quest against nazi propaganda from Steve Voltage.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Jun 20 12:03
aaronnh, did you go to Oxford???
By:
alun2005
When: 09 Jun 20 12:04
A handy guide for Left-Wing Progressive Thugs re: statue-toppling. Lots of potential sumptuous targets here.

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https://order-order.com/2020/06/08/more-problematic-sculptures-for-the-left-to-tear-down/
By:
edy
When: 09 Jun 20 12:06
They are just being good Christians

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Exodus 20
By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 12:07

Jun 9, 2020 -- 12:03PM, boxingthefox wrote:


aaronnh, did you go to Oxford???


no, not an intellectual titan like many on this forum

By:
lord skywalker
When: 09 Jun 20 12:07
It was 300 years ago when the world was completely diffrent, focus on the future and learn from past mistakes, mandela was never a terrorist FACT!!
By:
aaronh
When: 09 Jun 20 12:08

Jun 9, 2020 -- 12:03PM, edy wrote:


True, I've been left completely alone by you guys in my quest against nazi propaganda from Steve Voltage.


forum is full of frauds or people that agree

By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Jun 20 12:08

Jun 9, 2020 -- 12:07PM, lord skywalker wrote:


It was 300 years ago when the world was completely diffrent, focus on the future and learn from past mistakes, mandela was never a terrorist FACT!!


Bitch! Laugh

Marx, a true hero, lived off his wife all his life the idle ****. Be careful who you idolise.

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 09 Jun 20 12:08
Rhodes' was a cultural rather than biological definition, and a starting point for actions supportive of native populations, as he clarified in a speech of 1894, stating "Now, I say the natives are children. They are just emerging from barbarism. They have human minds . . . We ought to do something for the minds and the brains that the Almighty has given them. I do not believe that they are different from ourselves"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Rhodes
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Jun 20 12:09
Sorry LS that was meant for aaronh. Whoops
By:
edy
When: 09 Jun 20 12:10

Jun 9, 2020 -- 12:08PM, aaronh wrote:


Jun  9, 2020 -- 11:03AM, edy wrote:True, I've been left completely alone by you guys in my quest against nazi propaganda from Steve Voltage.forum is full of frauds or people that agree


Yeah, they couldn't care less if it comes from someone they generally deem on their side. Or, as you say, they were only were fake outraged and actually agree with the anti-semitic nazi trash propaganda posted by Steve Voltage on this very forum in plain sight.

By:
lord skywalker
When: 09 Jun 20 12:11
How about everything connected to the romans, that should keep the radicals occupied for a few years, leave history alone that is exactly what it is.
By:
macarony
When: 09 Jun 20 12:11
Iconoclasm alive and well in modern Byzantine Britain Leo will be pleased
By:
boxingthefox
When: 09 Jun 20 12:15

Jun 9, 2020 -- 12:11PM, lord skywalker wrote:


How about everything connected to the romans, that should keep the radicals occupied for a few years, leave history alone that is exactly what it is.


You got me there! Laugh

I must say it's great to see CC back to it's old form where we can strongly debate
(slag off) with each other, and do a bit of childish name calling. Love it, I'm offski GL today guys.

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