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Kids are more likely to die by LIGHTNING strike than Covid caught at school
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Off at tangent
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insider having a shocker on multiple threads at the same time, he,s not hancock is he
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If you kept lockdown then excess deaths would turn negative
There is no doubt of that. When virus is purged you can open more quickly with more confidence And economy will have more of a v recovery. Dribs and drabs before we are ready purely to deflect Cummings wife's birthday treat risks harming a v recivery |
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it's not about right at all because we literally have no clear figures whatsoever on the actual number of people who have died from Covid-19, the calculation and reporting of the deaths are seriously ambiguous, the term Corona Virus 'related' deaths is a nonsense, we need actual numbers, how many people have died from this virus either directly, or the cause given as 'highly likely' it having a significant impact on death. But even then it needs breaking down further, how many were near the end of the lives with already serious health issues where even the common winter flu could have killed them. How many were health workers with little or no PPE frequently over exposed.
A blanket number of people dying simply including people who had died with the virus is cowboy stuff, you'd expect this kind analytical summation delivered to the nation and accepted with challenge by a country like North Korea. Also, numbers of people who die from knife crime in the UK every year is around 250, very small numbers, and these crimes happen generally in poor areas, firstly you need to know how many people so far have died anyway from this crime so far this year to draw a comparison and secondly, poor areas have suffered consequently from the lockdown regardless in other ways, less likely to have laptops to study from home. Air pollution deaths do not happen in short spurts, it is attributed to a cause of death based on lifetime exposure, we've been in partial lockdown for a few weeks. Research has also shown 8.6 million drinking more frequently due to lockdown (alcoholchange.uk) Calls to the National Domestic abuse helpline has also in creased by 66%. 60, 000 is just a completely random made up number. I know you really don't like this government but this isn't about politics and you shouldn't make it political to score points, the Covid-19 death numbers are simply not real. |
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Then we have the scandal of elderly being pressurised into signing Do Not Resuscitate forms.
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oh more aftertiming by insider trader
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There was no medical consensus in "early april" that children were at low risk of passing the virus to other children and adults.
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You also misrepresent norway's position. They said that lockdown was a overreaction because R was low, not that lockdown in itself was wrong.
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That wasn't the question.
The government- in its infinite wisdom - decided reception, y1 and y6 should be first. Forumites here agree the trauma of being faced with a covered up teacher ordering them to stay apart might not be in the best interests of young children. But I'm asking why Darren thinks it's so important y6 pupils go back. They will face the same restrictions once there, are missing out on no work as they are being taught at home and y6 final term is a notorious doddle anyway. You can argue (whether rightly or wrongly) as to what should and shouldn't have been done, but the question pertains to returning and managing that properly. The government are balling this up, just as they've done pretty much everything else. |
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I don't want to lockdown for longer than required
I want recovery to be swift You just are so short sighted you will stall any recovery whilst culling more brits. These whack job threads you start promoting ill-conceived ideas are just bonkers |
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year 6's need preparation for big school, this includes taking end of Keys Stage 2 SATS tests, which are used to assess a child's current academic le level/progress, they're also used to measure progress from end of KS1 tests, secondary schools need to know these results.
I am working on the assumption they will still take place, they were due to take place 3 weeks ago. Nursey kids have goldfish memories, they're not really there to learn much, more to learn other basic skills such as interaction and general behaviour skills. |
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Sats are cancelled
Year 1 and 2 tests are cancelled Phonics tests cancelled |
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Not allowed to play rounders, but maybe quoits will be allowed
if kids bring their own Nursery have been stripped of all toys Sand pits are cordoned off, no water play. |
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still they need mental preparation for secondary school, to go from the oldest kids in the school to the youngest in a much bigger environment, do not really see the purpose of nursey kids returning or at least being more important that year 6's.
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its nothing to do with education,its about getting kids baby sat so parents can return to work ,as to why youngest returning 1st,no benefit to government older ones going back and younger ones still need minding at home
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my grandson,s teacher phoned last week his dad said I,ll think about and let you no ,but think not,
teacher said I,ll ring back next week ,which was wed,,she said you havnt got a choice no parents agreeing to come so we,re not opening |
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Year 6s not having chance to bully younger kids is not going to be missed.
Maybe that will help prepare them better for big school. |
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You having flashbacks Donny?
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I think it was a stupid comparison, why? One can see lightning before it strikes, but with Covid-19 one cannot. It's invisible thus scares the daylight out of any joe public; one could catch it from contact with an infected object or area where an asymptomatic carrier has just been.
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That was our experience 1tp. Had to fill in loads of surveys from the school about what we'd do. Wife's in a parents' whatsapp group and at the first time of asking there were eight kids from thirty going back. This reduced to five the next week. School basically said it wasn't worth their while opening and decided to carry on their childminding key workers' kids service.
This was then overtaken by Lancashire Council stating that the five government tests couldn't be met given current positions on testing and PPE, so advised all schools to remain closed and not to take any more key workers' kids, but just stay with what they've got. Was a stupid, half baked plan to begin with but any goodwill or trust in the government to look after our kids has been utterly trashed in recent days. Just another big failure from them. |
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north east redcar
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Why not move the Summer holidays to June 1st through to mid July and then go back fully after that.
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Maybe folk have plans so moving holidays at this late stage is impossible in reality
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Cant imagine hardly anyone has holidays booked at the moment but im sure the teachers would use that as another excuse.
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You would be surprise if you speak to teachers they have holidays booked
Parents of kids have holidays booked. We might get to enjoy so time in uk over the summer, on holiday Helping to seed the recovery |
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I suppose the other alternative is to furlough them if they dont want to go back. Thankfully our supermarket staff and NHS workers are made of stronger stuff or we would be in trouble.
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Teachers are still working in schools with key workers kids, whilst home schooling others on Internet.
Stern stuff indeed Whilst fighting to protect NHS from another government sponsored flare up |
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I think kids whose parent/s share a house or live with grandparents esp those in the NHS or key workers would consider returning to school on 1st June a risk too difficult to weigh up or justify. And, I believe there could be quite a few.
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The ones around here dont appear to be doing that. The one who lives across from me is full time in his garden for a start and I
know of two who should be guaranteed a place but have hardly been allowed to go at all as the teachers keep in turn deciding they have a cold and need to isolate. Either way now its Summer lets be decisive. Open them up or just close and save on the wage bill. |