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By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 18:48
At what time?
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 18:48
Cummings doesn't need his hand holding, unlike many of you it appears.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 18:49

May 28, 2020 -- 6:48PM, Cider wrote:


Cummings doesn't need his hand holding, unlike many of you it appears.


Correct, he doesn't need any rules either.

By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 18:49
How do I know. I do know the SNP responded to reports, claiming it was a security check the day before.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 18:50
What time at and what day?
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 18:50
The all powerful Nicky, kowtowing to the press beating, who'd have thunk it Laugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 18:51
She isn't weak, unlike Boris.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 18:54
hmmm the man who kicked 17 MPs out of his own party, creating a negative majority, turning it around to win an 80 seat landslide, so weak Laugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 18:56
A monkey with a blue rosette on would have won the last election.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 18:58
Up to date polling has the SNP at 54%. That's the highest I can ever recall.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:00
The Scottish Sun published pictures of a family trip to coastal town Earlsferry, despite the lockdown.

The newspaper reported Dr Calderwood walked across a golf course yesterday (Saturday April 4).

On 5 April 2020 she was visited at home by officers from Police Scotland and warned about her conduct.

On the afternoon of the 5 April 2020 First Minister Nicola Sturgeon announced that Dr Calderwood would be "withdrawing from media briefings for the foreseeable future" and explained that the government would be revising its public information campaign.

Several hours later, on the evening of 5 April 2020, Calderwood resigned.She issued this statement: "People across Scotland know what they need to do to reduce the spread of this virus and that means they must have complete trust in those who give them advice".
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:03
So she was chopped on the day the story was published.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:08
It was published 4th, visited by police morning of the 5th, does the press conference afterwards after being visited by the police (lolz), resigns Sunday night.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:10
Which paper was it published in on the 4th and can you give a link please?
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:14
.https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5460581/coronavirus-scotland-catherine-calderwood-chief-medic-covid-19/#comments

Oldest comments dated 4th
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:18
The Scottish Sun on Sunday then asked why the Chief Medical Officer was ignoring official advice.

An SNP Government spokesman replied: “Since this start of this epidemic, the CMO has been working seven days a week preparing Scotland’s response.

She took the opportunity this weekend to check on a family home in Fife as she knows she will not be back again until the crisis is over.

“She stayed overnight before returning to Edinburgh. In line with guidance she stayed within her own household group and observed social distancing with anyone she was in passing in the village."

LaughLaughLaugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:20

May 28, 2020 -- 7:14PM, Cider wrote:


.https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5460581/coronavirus-scotland-catherine-calderwood-chief-medic-covid-19/#commentsOldest comments dated 4th


The papers 5th April first edition was online at 10pm on the 4th April, as are all papers normally.

By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:22

May 28, 2020 -- 7:18PM, Cider wrote:


The Scottish Sun on Sunday then asked why the Chief Medical Officer was ignoring official advice.An SNP Government spokesman replied: “Since this start of this epidemic, the CMO has been working seven days a week preparing Scotland’s response.“She took the opportunity this weekend to check on a family home in Fife as she knows she will not be back again until the crisis is over.“She stayed overnight before returning to Edinburgh. In line with guidance she stayed within her own household group and observed social distancing with anyone she was in passing in the village."


She was chopped the day the story was published. Now compare that action to Boris and Cummings or Jenrick for that matter.

By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:22
So the story broke on the 4th. Do you think the SNP spokesman asked Calderwood what happened, or made it up Laugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:23
The story broke on the newspaper of the 5th.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:23
The same day she was chopped.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:24
The SNP were asked for comment before it was published obviously. On the 4th.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:31
https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/31640547/dr-calderwood#flvWelcomeHeader

There is the thread on here, started on the 5th.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:33
It's there in black and white, dated 4th. SNP had ample warning before the presser.

The only reason she resigned as the public face as CMO, (or was told to) was they couldn't face down the criticism. Not due to being caught flouting the rules. Their plan was to ride it out.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:36
As I have explained to you, all papers bring out first edition front pages at 10pm the day before they publish. The story was in the paper dated the 5th. Feel free to find a reference to the story on the forum from the 4th April, or before even.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:37
I'm not inclined to think it should have cost her job either, but when you're the face of the advice and go on two separate family holidays it's harder to justify. I can see why she resigned.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:37
Just shows how weak Boris is. Sturgeon chopped her the day the story was published.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:39
As I have explained to you, SNP were asked to comment on the 4th. It's when they became aware of the flouting that is significant, not when the paper was in the shops.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:41
She was chopped on the day the story was published, that's good enough for anyone.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 May 20 19:43
Pish - she was the main medical spokesperson and appeared daily.

At 4.50pm, the First Minister said Dr Calderwood would continue to adviser her and the government but would not front media briefings and said the current public information campaign featuring the CMO was in the process of being withdrawn. The Scottish Government confirmed the revised campaign will not feature Dr Calderwood.

Dr Calderwood's resignation announcement arrived just over four hours later.

At the mid-afternoon coronavirus press briefing, Ms Sturgeon said  it would be “damaging not to have the ongoing advice and expertise” of Dr Calderwood.

After the pictures emerged of Dr Calderwood's visit, the Scottish Goverment defended the CMO, saying that her family's visit at the weekend was to "check on a family home in Fife as she knows she will not be back again until the crisis is over."

The statement, which made no mention of a second visit, went on: "In line with guidance she stayed within her own household group and observed social distancing with anyone she was... passing in the village."

On Sunday,  Dr Calderwood that she had actually been to the same second home the previous weekend too, with her husband.

"It's important to be clear, that I was also there last weekend with my husband, "she said at the daily coronavirus briefing.

"I did not follow the advice I am giving to others. I'm truly sorry for that."

Before removing Dr Calderwood from public-facing duties for the foreseeable future, Ms Sturgeon stressed that while she did not condone anyone breaking the guidance on preventing the spread of the virus, it would be “damaging not to have the ongoing advice and expertise” of Dr Calderwood.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:44
Not correct, as the resignation was forced by the media. Not out of any duty or responsibility for breaking the rules.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 28 May 20 19:46
PP Changing your behaviour based on what Cummings did means you werent following the rules because they were sensible and you thought you were helping lives but just did because you were scared by the State.

If you really did think they were neccessary and are now going out putting lives at risk just because of Cummings that says a hell of a lot about you none of which is good.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:48
twisted logic of the left
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:49

May 28, 2020 -- 7:48PM, Cider wrote:


twisted logic of the left


As I am a traditional Conservative voter, I assume that remark was not addressed to me?

By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 May 20 19:50
Wetter than Tom Daleys sphincter.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 19:54

May 28, 2020 -- 7:49PM, politicspunter wrote:


May 28, 2020 --  6:48PM, Cider wrote:twisted logic of the leftAs I am a traditional Conservative voter, I assume that remark was not addressed to me?


I find your views to be substantially left wing.

Out of interest, assuming it's not Boris, which current Westminster MP would be your first choice as PM?

By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:55
Jeremy Hunt.
By:
politicspunter
When: 28 May 20 19:59
I think I am pretty fair. If you sat an independent person down that had no prior knowledge of the cases of Calderwood, Jenrick, Ferguson and Cummings and asked them to consider reports on what they had done, I would be surprised if they picked out correctly, when asked, the two persons that had been chopped as soon as the stories broke.
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 20:02
At least he's a Tory Grin Unfortunately doing a lot of after timing about being prepared for a pandemic and lack major testing infrastructure planning when he was health sec for over six years. I did like Boris saying to him the mistake was not learning from SARS or MERS Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 28 May 20 20:12

May 28, 2020 -- 7:59PM, politicspunter wrote:


I think I am pretty fair. If you sat an independent person down that had no prior knowledge of the cases of Calderwood, Jenrick, Ferguson and Cummings and asked them to consider reports on what they had done, I would be surprised if they picked out correctly, when asked, the two persons that had been chopped as soon as the stories broke.


I hate the cancel culture that has slipped out of social media into real life, for anyone. I hate that many people act as if they are angels when in fact they are hypocrites. If the individuals think they should resign, fine. If their employer feels the misconduct is so bad it requires summary dismissal, fine. It should never be up to the mob, or the media.

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