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I will give you one thing, Cider. What you will generally find in education and the media are socially somewhat progressive people. As in, they won't call for something normal people used to enjoy to happen to Cummings. They are not going to call for him to be beheaded.
What they are not is being overall left-wing. There's no shortage of fiscally conservative people. Or fiscally liberal (european meaning) people. |
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Drinking at lunchtime
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Cider, can you please provide the forum with your definition of “the left”.
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Yeah, what is the left anyways?
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Basically - as far as some very basic social stuff is concerned, stuff that shouldn't even have to be debated really or raise any eyebrows - a lot of the media is probably more progressive than the wider public that still has quite a few knuckleheads when it comes to basic civility towards minorities.
As far as fiscal politics, capitalism, (neo-)liberalism is concerned - I'm strongly inclined to say that the media is more on the neoliberal side than the broader public. |
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Notice how easily they've got people's attention away from death figures though....
 No one cares about death today  |
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I would describe it as progressive, woke, virtue signalling, desiring equality of outcome, third wave feminist, politics of envy, hypocritical. In some ways well intended, but a movement that thinks they know what's better for the individual that the individual themselves. Ashamed of their English heritage hence education being revisionist.
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The "caring for child" sob story is the biggest pile of BS told for a long time. What were the chances that both parents would be so incapacitated at the same time they couldn't look after a child? How many families have experienced this? Almost none I bet.
Then even if you swallow this garbage we're supposed to believe they don't have the local connections to provide care for the child? More BS. Then they drive for 4 hours in a car with the child (ensuring he gets infected) then hand him off to some relatives 260 miles away - ensuring those relatives get infected. Truth is they just took the opportunity to have a little holiday in the country and gave the rest of us the finger. Worst thing of all is we're being asked to applaud Dom and his wife for being such great parents. Makes you want to throw up. |
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So Cummings is left wing because he has been virtue signalling (textbook example) and hypocritical most recently.
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Look over here and not over there
Deaths? what deaths? they don't exist good sir Some man drove a few miles to be near his family, go and protest him The sheer insanity continues  |
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And Mrs Dom made no mention of going to Durham in her little tale. Why? Because she knew what they did was wrong.
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The sheer madness continues
Todays insanity... ? a man is under investigation for travelling |
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A_T Joined: 27 Jan 06
Replies: 8798 24 May 20 20:22 The "caring for child" sob story is the biggest pile of BS told for a long time. Its disgusting they way they have politicised their child. |
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Its disgusting they way they have politicised their child.
and casting themselves as heroic parents. these people have no shame. |
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Everyone is talking about
Even my mum is demanding he resigns or is sacked, I just shake my head at it and grin, the sheer stupidity of 2020 continues unabated Can't wait to see what's next, 2nd wave? Priti Patel visited Israel during "lockdown? Errrr Boris went to the vending machine during his "stay" in hospital? Oh I canna keep my eyes of it, its brilliant TV |
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It's not hard and fast is it. You can be right wing and agree with some left wing policies, and vice versa. Left wingers tend towards identity politics. An example would be a points based immigration system versus open borders. Most left wingers would go for open borders in my view but some may see sense in attempting to have some control over immigration for economic reasons.
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Right wingers are also heavily into identity politics.
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No way would the majority of left-wingers support "open borders". No way ever. That's just a completely deranged and bizarre view.
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Though I know it's a view that the wannabe conservative crybaby loon grifters on social media like to spread.
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Do you consider yourself left wing, edy?
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"man who spotted Cummings 25 miles from Durham files complaint to police"
Only in todays society would that be looked at as a criminal investigation, any other era of human society and they'd section the reporter and the bloke who made the complaint |
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I'm not. Right wingers bring up identity at every opportunity. They can be hysterical about it. You just have to look on here.
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socially progressive, fiscally liberal (european meaning)
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Politics currently is still more about Brexit v Remain than right v left.
Plenty of columnists may be 'right wing' in terms of taxation policy etc but if they are ardent Remainers then they hate Cummings and Boris. A lot of 'right wing' media outlets have a big remain bias in their editors/columnists |
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#sever
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Spot on tobes, everyone knows what is behind this.
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I would suppose the UK and Ireland will keep its common travel area while having border controls with the Schengen area and others. Status quo regarding border controls really.
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as far as people are concerned.
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We are not in Schengen. so basically borders more open than they are now.
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No, status quo.
Continued common travel area with Ireland - like now. Border controls with Schengen and whoever else - like now. |
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status quo is open borders.
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uh...no
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oh no, has cider been duped?
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To get into the UK you currently have to go through controls (unless you are traveling from Ireland).
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Unless the tories made the entirely domestic decision that they can't be bothered paying the required personnel to do those checks at all points of entry lately.
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ive been working class left wing ,strong pro union ,been on strike stood on picket lines etc,etc,
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