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Police spoke to Dominic Cummings after Durham trip in lockdown
Exclusive: PM’s adviser was with parents away from London home when he had coronavirus symptoms
Matthew Weaver https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

Police spoke to Dominic Cummings about breaching the government’s lockdown rules after he was seen in Durham, 264 miles from his London home, despite having had symptoms of coronavirus, the Guardian can reveal.

Officers approached Boris Johnson’s key adviser days after he was seen rushing out of Downing Street when the prime minister tested positive for the virus at the end of March, a joint investigation by the Guardian and the Mirror has found.

At the time, the government had instructed people not to travel and to stay at their family homes. Cummings, however, was seen in Durham. A member of the public is understood to have seen him and made a complaint to the police.

When asked if Cummings had been warned about breaching the lockdown, a spokesman for Durham Constabulary said: “On Tuesday, March 31, our officers were made aware of reports that an individual had travelled from London to Durham and was present at an address in the city.

“Officers made contact with the owners of that address who confirmed that the individual in question was present and was self-isolating in part of the house.

“In line with national policing guidance, officers explained to the family the guidelines around self-isolation and reiterated the appropriate advice around essential travel.”

Downing Street has previously refused to disclose where Cummings was staying during the lockdown.

The Guardian has also been told Cummings was spotted near the gate of his parents’ home with a young child, believed to be his son, at around 5.45pm on Sunday 5 April, five days after the complaint was made to the police.

This was just over a week after he began self-isolating with symptoms of the virus. It was also less than two hours before the prime minister was admitted to hospital after his symptoms worsened.

The Guardian has previously asked Downing Street about this sighting in April, but officials declined to comment.

The disclosure that Cummings was spoken to by police raises potentially awkward questions for him and No 10. With the UK in the grip of the pandemic, the government’s own advice urged everyone to stay at their main homes to avoid the spread of the virus and to save lives.
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“You should not be visiting family members who do not live in your home,” the guidance said. “The only exception is if they need help, such as having shopping or medication dropped off.”

Instead, Cummings appears to have made the trip from his home in east London to Durham at a time when Johnson and the health secretary, Matt Hancock, had tested positive.

Downing Street said Cummings had developed symptoms “over the weekend” of the 28 and 29 March.

When questioned about Cummings’ whereabouts during the following week, a Downing Street spokesperson said only that he was in contact with No 10.

A Durham resident who lives near the Cummings family home expressed shock and annoyance after the 5 April sighting.

The witness, who did not wish to be named, told the Guardian: “I was really annoyed. I thought it’s OK for you to drive all the way up to Durham and escape from London. I sympathise with him wanting to do that, but other people are not allowed to do that. It’s one rule for Dominic Cummings and one rule for the rest of us.”

Breaking lockdown rules has been a resigning issue for senior officials.

Prof Neil Ferguson, the epidemiologist whose modelling prompted the lockdown, quit as a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) for flouting physical distancing rules when he was visited by his girlfriend.
After he stood aside, senior Tories insisted he had done the right thing.
Hancock said he was “speechless” and added: “I think he took the right decision to resign.”

The former Tory leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith said Ferguson’s behaviour “risks undermining the government’s lockdown message”.

Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, was also forced to quit after making two trips to her second home during the coronavirus lockdown.

The sightings raise questions about the government’s commitment to the “stay at home” message it was repeating to the public in the first stage of the lockdown.

The Guardian has already revealed that the communities secretary, Robert Jenrick, travelled to his parents’ home on the same weekend. Jenrick said he was delivering medicine and essential supplies.

Cummings was seen running through Downing Street on 27 March after it was announced that Johnson and Hancock had tested positive for coronavirus.

Cummings and his wife, Mary Wakefield, an editor at the Spectator, last month gave a detailed account of how they coped under lockdown while having the symptoms of coronavirus.

Writing in the magazine, Wakefield said that Cummings rushed home to look after her when she began showing symptoms. A day later he began feeling “weird” and then couldn’t get out of bed. “Day in, day out for 10 days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms,” she said.

The article goes on: “Just as Dom was beginning to feel better ... Boris was heading in the other direction, into hospital.” This was the evening when Cummings was first seen near Durham with the child. On the same evening, Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, was forced to resign after she was photographed visiting her second home in Fife.

Wakefield’s article does not say where they were during quarantine, but it adds: “After the uncertainty of the bug itself, we emerged from quarantine into almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown.” Wakefield has been asked to clarify whether the family were in their London home at the time.

In the same issue of the Spectator, Cummings wrote: “At the end of March and for the first two weeks of April I was ill, so we were both shut in together.” He described the experience as “sticky … Everything is covered in a layer of spilt Ribena, honey, peanut butter and playschool glue.”

A witness said they were going past the Cummings family home on 5 April on their regular exercise route when they heard Abba’s Dancing Queen playing loudly from the property.

“I got the shock of my life, as I looked over to the gates and saw him,” they said. “There was a child, presumably his little boy, running around in front. I recognised Dominic Cummings, he’s a very distinctive figure.”

Despite the mild weather that weekend, they said Cummings was wearing a dark coat and thick tartan scarf. “He must have been wearing them to protect himself while recovering from Covid-19,” they said.

The Guardian approached Downing Street for comment but had not received a response by the time of publication.

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Angoose
When: 22 May 20 20:12
At least he wasn't sh@gging Ferguson Grin
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 20:18
dom,doris,jenrick,fegfuson been im more houses between them than a gang of jerhovis witnesses Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 20:24
I,d like to say I,m SPEECHLESS ,but I,m not Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 22 May 20 20:33
I fully expect stewarts rise to come on here and demand Demonic Cummings resign!

What a hypocrite!
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 20:39
seat going spare on sage committee, Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 20:40
no scientific experience required LaughLaugh
By:
thegiggilo
When: 22 May 20 20:41
Has he resigned yet,or are we still under north career laws..
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 20:42
hans Christian Anderson and walt Disney seen entering downing street 10 mins ago, Laugh
By:
geordie1956
When: 22 May 20 21:00
must be a resignation matter ... shirley!
By:
Angoose
When: 22 May 20 21:02
Labour is demanding a "swift explanation" after reports that the prime minister's chief adviser Dominic Cummings broke lockdown rules.

It follows reports tonight in the Guardian and Mirror that Mr Cummings was seen in Durham, over 250 miles from his London home, despite having had symptoms of COVID-19.

Sky News has approached Downing Street and Durham Police for comment.
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 21:04
besides everything else what sort of kooont with symptom,s,later positive goes to stay with their  parents
By:
Angoose
When: 22 May 20 21:13
Peston laying out the case for the defence .....

Robert Peston
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Cummings's explanation to his colleagues for why he apparently broke the lockdown is pretty extraordinary. When he and his wife Mary went down with Covid-19, they feared they would not be well enough to look after their small boy. So Cummings, already ill, drove them all the 260 miles from North London to Durham, so that their lad could be looked after by his parents.

But what is odd is that he was not deterred by the fear that his parents, who he would have known would be at risk because older, could be infected by them, via his son. So there are lots of questions to be answered.

For what it's worth, his colleagues think he didn't break rules because the deputy CMO Jenny Harries said on 10 April that "if you have adults who are unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance and if the individuals do not have access to care support formal care support, or to family, they will be able to work through their local authority hubs". 

So they think she was basically saying it's OK to drive across the country to family. But was she saying that? What do you think?

NB As you will note, Harries's statement was made after he had driven to Durham with Mary and child. I am not aware of any prior statement that would have given comfort to Cummings that his journey was consistent with lockdown rules.
By:
Angoose
When: 22 May 20 21:20
Which sucker is going to draw the short straw and get sent out for the daily briefing tomorrow Grin
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 21:25
they've had plenty of time to get a story together because the guardian 1st approached downing street about a sighting in durham in april
By:
winningthought
When: 22 May 20 21:25
Oh dear. Another Dancing Queen moment for the Tories Sad
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 21:27
handjob might actually be speechless if he gets the gig
By:
Angoose
When: 22 May 20 21:32
Surely Rees-Mogg would have sent Nanny round if they were genuinely concerned about child care Happy
By:
Angoose
When: 22 May 20 21:35
Johnson is going to have to step up to the plate and answer the questions directly, but don't hold your breath.
By:
winningthought
When: 22 May 20 21:35
Who?
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 May 20 21:35
so these right wingers with all the common sense think 2 of them with virus symptons close to 3 people who,ve tested positive, think its a good idea to take their son who,s been exposed to virus 300 miles to be baby sitted by their elderly parents, and the 2 of them also stay in the house/ ground s of house,
sound like 2 of the biggest selfish idiots in the country
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 22 May 20 21:36
will hancock demand his resignation as he demanded fergusons ?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 May 20 21:37
Just more evidence from those in the know that this whole lockdown thing is an engineered farce.

From the moment all the politicians from Boris to Corbyn and now Starmer started taking the Ferguson pamphlet as something to force us into lockdown something has not been right.

How come so many people in the know about the story behind the story are happy to carry on normal? Kinnocks kid did the same. Then the scottish CMO, then Ferguson etc etc.

When the dust settles we need an inquiry into who finances the 'science', why some scientists were ignored and why some were put on a pedestal.
By:
eyeball
When: 22 May 20 21:43
There will be no mention of it .
By:
Angoose
When: 22 May 20 21:47

May 22, 2020 -- 9:37PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Just more evidence from those in the know that this whole lockdown thing is an engineered farce.From the moment all the politicians from Boris to Corbyn and now Starmer started taking the Ferguson pamphlet as something to force us into lockdown something has not been right.How come so many people in the know about the story behind the story are happy to carry on normal? Kinnocks kid did the same. Then the scottish CMO, then Ferguson etc etc.When the dust settles we need an inquiry into who finances the 'science', why some scientists were ignored and why some were put on a pedestal.


An incredible engineered farce played out on a global basis, they've really got us this time Crazy

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 22 May 20 21:54
Not everyone country locked down and is still locked down and is spending billions on furloughed workers who are enjoying a paid holiday until October.
By:
brassneck
When: 22 May 20 22:16
Where is the slide of his journey,did he stop?Next slide please
By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 08:36
Relax. Everyone knows there are rules for the likes of Jenrick and Cummings. Then there are other rules if you aren't a tory.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 09:12
I,d be more worried that  the so called super brain of downing st,was the architect of a policy that even a bloke with the full weight of downing st and civil service at his disposal couldn't navigate his way around his own rules,what chance for the 70 million plebs, LaughLaugh,

everyone in the country even those with no common sense[,thats anybody not in the tory party] understood the tory,s 1st slogan, except those who drafted it and the same tory loons say anyone who doesnt understand their ridiculous new solgan is an idiot ,with no common senseLaughLaugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 09:23
man or mouse time for hancock,he,s no,s he,s going to get burried by cummings/doris at the end of all this,he also no,s he,s going to get bombarded with the speechless,this is an instruction not advice line, so its his chance to take cummings down,which would be backed by plenty in tory party, but don't think he,s got the cohoona,s and will take yet another one for team doris/cummings,as doris / cummings no only to well, the useful idiots are the most important part of the team, Laugh,
poor old handjob as i said at the time ,the SPEECHLESS quote wasnt even his line,kay burley said it for him,now he,s going to get bombarded with itLaugh
By:
nineteen points
When: 23 May 20 09:26
dont worry the bbc are fully behind him this morning.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 23 May 20 09:42
think he will resign rather than be sacked.
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 23 May 20 09:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw
By:
sofiakenny
When: 23 May 20 09:46
He aint going anywhere..he is the PM in all but name...Bojo is Sooty and Cummings is Harry Corbett.No Cummings = no Bojo.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 May 20 09:48
Thought the pro-lockdown fanatics on here were anti-Cummings and his views on the lockdown.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 May 20 10:00
Interesting to see how long they can keep Hanjob away from the lectern.

Both he and Borris will not be able to bat away questions. I am sure the others will be briefed to give short answers or ignore the questions or was it Raab who had to deal with the Ferguson question, I forget so maybe we will not see him either.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 10:02
think guardian/mirror will give him till today,then sunday papers might have evidence of when doris knew about it all and publish it,cant see them not having something to follow up with
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 May 20 10:02
Let's be honest, this isn't massively surprising news. He may dress like a tramp but Cummings is very firmly one of the elite and the whole point of rules is that they apply to everyone but them. So at the first sign of bother, he's off to the castle in the north to rest up in the the east wing. No matter the risks of spreading it to the in laws or to anyone stopping at the same services, he had a special virus that meant it was ok.
By:
elisjohn
When: 23 May 20 10:05
havent read all the thread, but it seems he had corona symptoms, cant believe that like everyone else in govt   that he didnt have the actual test
By:
sofiakenny
When: 23 May 20 10:07
Strange they have sat on this story for so long..hmmm
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