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Police spoke to Dominic Cummings after Durham trip in lockdown
Exclusive: PM’s adviser was with parents away from London home when he had coronavirus symptoms
Matthew Weaver https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

Police spoke to Dominic Cummings about breaching the government’s lockdown rules after he was seen in Durham, 264 miles from his London home, despite having had symptoms of coronavirus, the Guardian can reveal.

Officers approached Boris Johnson’s key adviser days after he was seen rushing out of Downing Street when the prime minister tested positive for the virus at the end of March, a joint investigation by the Guardian and the Mirror has found.

At the time, the government had instructed people not to travel and to stay at their family homes. Cummings, however, was seen in Durham. A member of the public is understood to have seen him and made a complaint to the police.

When asked if Cummings had been warned about breaching the lockdown, a spokesman for Durham Constabulary said: “On Tuesday, March 31, our officers were made aware of reports that an individual had travelled from London to Durham and was present at an address in the city.

“Officers made contact with the owners of that address who confirmed that the individual in question was present and was self-isolating in part of the house.

“In line with national policing guidance, officers explained to the family the guidelines around self-isolation and reiterated the appropriate advice around essential travel.”

Downing Street has previously refused to disclose where Cummings was staying during the lockdown.

The Guardian has also been told Cummings was spotted near the gate of his parents’ home with a young child, believed to be his son, at around 5.45pm on Sunday 5 April, five days after the complaint was made to the police.

This was just over a week after he began self-isolating with symptoms of the virus. It was also less than two hours before the prime minister was admitted to hospital after his symptoms worsened.

The Guardian has previously asked Downing Street about this sighting in April, but officials declined to comment.

The disclosure that Cummings was spoken to by police raises potentially awkward questions for him and No 10. With the UK in the grip of the pandemic, the government’s own advice urged everyone to stay at their main homes to avoid the spread of the virus and to save lives.
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“You should not be visiting family members who do not live in your home,” the guidance said. “The only exception is if they need help, such as having shopping or medication dropped off.”

Instead, Cummings appears to have made the trip from his home in east London to Durham at a time when Johnson and the health secretary, Matt Hancock, had tested positive.

Downing Street said Cummings had developed symptoms “over the weekend” of the 28 and 29 March.

When questioned about Cummings’ whereabouts during the following week, a Downing Street spokesperson said only that he was in contact with No 10.

A Durham resident who lives near the Cummings family home expressed shock and annoyance after the 5 April sighting.

The witness, who did not wish to be named, told the Guardian: “I was really annoyed. I thought it’s OK for you to drive all the way up to Durham and escape from London. I sympathise with him wanting to do that, but other people are not allowed to do that. It’s one rule for Dominic Cummings and one rule for the rest of us.”

Breaking lockdown rules has been a resigning issue for senior officials.

Prof Neil Ferguson, the epidemiologist whose modelling prompted the lockdown, quit as a member of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) for flouting physical distancing rules when he was visited by his girlfriend.
After he stood aside, senior Tories insisted he had done the right thing.
Hancock said he was “speechless” and added: “I think he took the right decision to resign.”

The former Tory leader Sir Iain Duncan Smith said Ferguson’s behaviour “risks undermining the government’s lockdown message”.

Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, was also forced to quit after making two trips to her second home during the coronavirus lockdown.

The sightings raise questions about the government’s commitment to the “stay at home” message it was repeating to the public in the first stage of the lockdown.

The Guardian has already revealed that the communities secretary, Robert Jenrick, travelled to his parents’ home on the same weekend. Jenrick said he was delivering medicine and essential supplies.

Cummings was seen running through Downing Street on 27 March after it was announced that Johnson and Hancock had tested positive for coronavirus.

Cummings and his wife, Mary Wakefield, an editor at the Spectator, last month gave a detailed account of how they coped under lockdown while having the symptoms of coronavirus.

Writing in the magazine, Wakefield said that Cummings rushed home to look after her when she began showing symptoms. A day later he began feeling “weird” and then couldn’t get out of bed. “Day in, day out for 10 days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms,” she said.

The article goes on: “Just as Dom was beginning to feel better ... Boris was heading in the other direction, into hospital.” This was the evening when Cummings was first seen near Durham with the child. On the same evening, Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, was forced to resign after she was photographed visiting her second home in Fife.

Wakefield’s article does not say where they were during quarantine, but it adds: “After the uncertainty of the bug itself, we emerged from quarantine into almost comical uncertainty of London lockdown.” Wakefield has been asked to clarify whether the family were in their London home at the time.

In the same issue of the Spectator, Cummings wrote: “At the end of March and for the first two weeks of April I was ill, so we were both shut in together.” He described the experience as “sticky … Everything is covered in a layer of spilt Ribena, honey, peanut butter and playschool glue.”

A witness said they were going past the Cummings family home on 5 April on their regular exercise route when they heard Abba’s Dancing Queen playing loudly from the property.

“I got the shock of my life, as I looked over to the gates and saw him,” they said. “There was a child, presumably his little boy, running around in front. I recognised Dominic Cummings, he’s a very distinctive figure.”

Despite the mild weather that weekend, they said Cummings was wearing a dark coat and thick tartan scarf. “He must have been wearing them to protect himself while recovering from Covid-19,” they said.

The Guardian approached Downing Street for comment but had not received a response by the time of publication.

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By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 22:55
Right.
By:
aaronh
When: 23 May 20 22:37
normies who don't know or don't care who Cummings is will be mad at this and that includes a lot of people who voted Brexit
By:
aaronh
When: 23 May 20 22:36

May 23, 2020 -- 10:04PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


Did you not think that link was pretty accurate & please answer with your opinion. ?Who is brendan btw ?


no, not everything is about Brexit and weirdos on both sides need to learn

he's the weirdo who has contrarian opinions about everything and you can predict 90% of his columns every week based on what weird stuff happened on Twitter

By:
winningthought
When: 23 May 20 22:05
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 22:04
Did you not think that link was pretty accurate & please answer with your opinion. ?

Who is brendan btw ?
By:
aaronh
When: 23 May 20 21:59

May 23, 2020 -- 7:57PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


.https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/23/dominic-cummings-broke-the-lockdown-good/


wasn't Brendan, who comes up with the most predictable **** time and again, seething at the scientist going out just weeks ago

By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 21:00
we wernt after the event we were last to be hit in Europe,townships in sowetto performed better than us
By:
winningthought
When: 23 May 20 20:54
They may well be a useless government but its easy after the event to be wiser.


Very low IQ poster Laugh
By:
elisjohn
When: 23 May 20 20:54
WHAT? He did it AGAIN?
...AFTER he recovered?
If true, & Observer is running same story, every excuse put up for Cummings today by No10 & grovelling cabinet ministers just went up in smoke.
Over to you, Prime Minister
@BorisJohnson
.
Any more lies you want to try?

piers morgan twitter tonight
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 20:50
Not sure their is a right or wrong way to handle an unpredictable event as this, any other leaders would had used the same scientific advice.

They may well be a useless government but its easy after the event to be wiser.
By:
elisjohn
When: 23 May 20 20:37
i voted brexit, and for boris , but im sorry forgetting actual politics, but this lot are incompetent, just imagine if this crisis was handled same way by corbyn
By:
elisjohn
When: 23 May 20 20:35
Latest news is that he visited them twice.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 19:57
.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/23/dominic-cummings-broke-the-lockdown-good/
By:
A_T
When: 23 May 20 18:35
Mrs Cummings' heartbreaking tail of poor Dom's terrible illness makes no mention of the fact that it all took place at the other end of the country from their home.
By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 18:30
Oh, and Insider Trader, just so you know, I won plenty in the general election. Will you please stop trolling my every post now, even after I have blocked you?
By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 18:27

May 23, 2020 -- 6:24PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


May 23, 2020 --  3:04PM, InsiderTrader wrote:politicspunter23 May 20 14:56Joined: 20 Mar 18| Topic/replies: 14,663 | Blogger: politicspunter's blog    May 23, 2020 -- 2:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:    We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.^PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.Interesting line from IT here.Of course, when the forum was discussing Ferguson breaking the lockdown a couple of weeks ago, his attitude was slightly different.Even before he inspired the lockdown someone leaving a house where someone was thought to have the virus was unacceptable.In fact, that was his view.Leaving the house where some may have the virus was unacceptable back then. Of course now that it's his favourite unelected establishment figure it's "What is the problem?"No wonder this country's going to the dogs so quickly.


Lol, I blocked Insider Trader ages ago because he was unhealthily obsessed with trolling my every post. I see nothing has changed. I won money on the next Conservative leader market, when Boris won.

By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 May 20 18:24

May 23, 2020 -- 4:04PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


politicspunter23 May 20 14:56Joined: 20 Mar 18| Topic/replies: 14,663 | Blogger: politicspunter's blog    May 23, 2020 -- 2:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:    We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.^PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.


Interesting line from IT here.

Of course, when the forum was discussing Ferguson breaking the lockdown a couple of weeks ago, his attitude was slightly different.

Even before he inspired the lockdown someone leaving a house where someone was thought to have the virus was unacceptable.

In fact, that was his view.


Leaving the house where some may have the virus was unacceptable back then. Of course now that it's his favourite unelected establishment figure it's "What is the problem?"





No wonder this country's going to the dogs so quickly.

By:
winningthought
When: 23 May 20 16:28
You are a very low IQ poster.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 16:27
Is that all you got ?
By:
winningthought
When: 23 May 20 16:18
Funny the bedwetters are not calling for Neil Ferguson to removed from his job ?

I believe this is a thread on Dominic Cummings not Neil Ferguson. Please, by all means start a thread on Ferguson and revel in your 'virtue signalling' finger pointing. It'll save us all a lot of time - we can just copy and past post and replace Ferguson with Cummings.

I like to plant lettuce to catch rabbits didn't you know?
By:
A_T
When: 23 May 20 16:12
the story is BS - they just didn't like the idea of isolating in London and went to a nice farm in the country instead
By:
Injera
When: 23 May 20 16:10
Cummings should be fired for his appearance alone. Scruffy ‘erbert.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 16:05
Funny the bedwetters are not calling for Neil Ferguson to removed from his job ?

Double standards, no the left dont have any standards.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 May 20 16:04
politicspunter
23 May 20 14:56
Joined: 20 Mar 18
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    May 23, 2020 -- 2:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


    We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.


You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.


^

PP defended the Scottish CMO when she went on a jolly to her holiday home.

Some people who lost money because of Boris taking power seem to think protecting your family is the same thing as inviting a mistress over or going on holiday.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 16:04
essential workers as designated by let me think,argh cummings LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
nineteen points
When: 23 May 20 16:04
has his wife no family?
By:
winningthought
When: 23 May 20 16:03
The rules dont apply to the press/activists.

By that logic you have to say the same about Cummings, unless of course you wish to be disingenuous.
By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 16:03
I made the mistake earlier in using the word "thinks" regarding sonko. Apologies to all other forum members.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 16:01
The rules dont apply to the press/activists.
By:
Frodo
When: 23 May 20 16:00
I am surprised the shocking Coronavirus spreading behaviour of the press outside his house hasn't received more attention. No social distancing at all and hardly essential journeys to take a couple of photos
By:
winningthought
When: 23 May 20 15:59
would all do the same

The overwhelming majority of the population didn't do the same, they abided by the governments guidance. This is a textbook case of virtue signalling something this forum abhors.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 15:58
You are lying to yourself or not being honest if you would not do the same thing in the same position.
By:
A_T
When: 23 May 20 15:57
would it have been ok for everyone to do that?
By:
politicspunter
When: 23 May 20 15:56

May 23, 2020 -- 3:52PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.


You must be almost the only person in the UK that thinks that.

By:
salmon spray
When: 23 May 20 15:55
Have you thought of applying for a job on Private Eye Sonko ?
You have a great satirical gift imo.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 May 20 15:52
We all know cummings did nothing wrong and would all do the same, its all about the agenda.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 15:48
bravermen already getting battered  on social media for her good parent remark,from parents who looked after their kids whilst ill, she,ll probably go before cummings,she was already in the news today for seeking a high profile position in her peado sect
By:
elisjohn
When: 23 May 20 15:21
Protecting one’s family is what any good parent does. The
@10DowningStreet
statement clarifies the situation and it is wholly inappropriate to politicise it.
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By:
winningthought
When: 23 May 20 14:03
I think the concern for Tory supporters is they don't want the puppet master's strings cut that hold up the great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellyman.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 May 20 14:02
cummings wife brother lives in london
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