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15 May 20 18:20
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how can the R rating nationally be very close to 1 again??

Am I missing something here?

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By:
HGS
When: 15 May 20 18:23
Some data must be behind others is all I can think.
By:
Angoose
When: 15 May 20 18:26
The entire mechanism for measuring the reproductive number is through the analysis of lagging indicators.
As such, it's out of date before you've even finished your "current" calculation.
By:
Angoose
When: 15 May 20 18:28
Increasingly, you'll hear more about the prevalence of infection alongside the reproduction number.
A reproduction rate of 1 is not necessarily a bad thing if you have a low prevalence.
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 18:30
as ive posted elsewhere even worse when you consider 10 million in London about to eradicate it all together ,if you believe what your told,would make some places well over 1
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 20 18:31
0.8 is a mid point

It's quoted as between 0.9 and 0.7 and I've seen 1.0 quoted elsewhere in uk as
a higher boundary

R is number of infections that each infected person causes, according to Hancock today

So likely national r will be closer to higher regions than lower ones
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 20 18:33
There are more folk up here with it pro rata too
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 18:38
its just a joke hancock says children are least in danger of getting virus,but todays data says 5 to 14 years olds topped the charts for getting it at 18%, only 3% of over 70,s,obviously through shielding,
all these people need to stipulate the difference between catching it and dealing with it, even if kids get a mild dose you don't no what it does to the body in future,mild dose is not a green flag to catch it,all sorts of diseases are mild to some kids but serious to others,you don't advocate catching them
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 20 18:43
Did Hancock say that today?

Mrs thought he did, I thought he was talking about outcome as in they don't die
when they get it.

Was already tuned out of the guff he was spouting, interesting you heard that.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 15 May 20 18:46
Eton shut till september,what a surprise,meanwhile the father billionaires want the plebs brats to go to school,liverpool already saying no to june 1st CoolCoolgit a feeling there's going to be a few more yet as well.Cool
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 20 18:52
Well done liverpool
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 18:53

May 15, 2020 -- 6:46PM, thegiggilo wrote:


Eton shut till september,what a surprise,meanwhile the father billionaires want the plebs brats to go to school,liverpool already saying no to june 1st git a feeling there's going to be a few more yet as well.


You're happy that children are missing out on their education? What on earth is there to be pleased about?

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 20 18:54
If its good enough for Eton...
By:
Angoose
When: 15 May 20 18:54
Measles is the most infectious virus with a reproductive number of 15.
MERS has a reproductive number of less than 1.
SARS-CoV-2 and influenza have reproductive numbers of between 2 and 3.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 20 18:55
Had Johnson locked down earlier they may have missed far less school
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 18:56
Neither of those answers the question.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 20 18:57
Rather not kill the teachers and parents just so Johnny can pish around in class room where curriculum has been abandoned
By:
Angoose
When: 15 May 20 18:59
Here's what COVID-19 does to your lungs

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By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:04

May 15, 2020 -- 6:57PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


Rather not kill the teachers and parents just so Johnny can pish around in class room where curriculum has been abandoned


I'd have thought kids in Liverpool would be among the most likely to benefit from any education they could get. Not going to stop anyone going to work is it!

By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 19:04
they wont be getting educated its a child minding ,baby sitting service to get mam and dad back to work,brandon lewis already said today,they,d be getting taught social distancing,hand washing etc
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 19:06
Teesside council say schools wont be opening on june 1st
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:07
These are the areas that people will moan about being deprived. The irony won't be missed on many.
By:
Angoose
When: 15 May 20 19:08
The deprived being asked to go over the top first all over again.
Nothing has changed, nothing has changed.
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:10
It should be left up to the individuals to decide for themselves. A concept unfamiliar to left wing councils tbf.
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 19:10
mumsnet,yummy muumy,s not exactly deprived,met tory children minister vicki ford today and 50% said they wont be sending their kids back
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:11
Good idea, determine policy via mumsnet Laugh
By:
Angoose
When: 15 May 20 19:12
You got young kids ?
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:13
Nope.
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:15
Simple really, put the classes on and let the parents make their own judgement.
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 19:16
that's yummy mummy,s mumsnet not allowed an opinion, deprived area,s not allowed one,

oh I get itr brandon lewis can decide who said he,d send his,if they hadn't already left school, LaughLaughLaughLaugh,

the joyful right wing daily knicker twanging going on as they scramble around like ferrets in a sack,trying to form a response to covid is heart warming to behold
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:18
forums can have an opinion, they aren't a valid source for policy making.
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:23
Do you not see the irrationality? Going to end up with the more affluent areas having the most important age groups getting the f2f education, and the kids in areas who would benefit most missing out.
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 19:24
ok cider get ready with your knicker elastic,

the BMA back teachers union claim that its not  safe to open schools yet,to much virus in the communityLaughLaugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 19:24
TWANG Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:25
They would, wouldn't they Laugh A union backing people not working, there's a first Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 19:27
MUMSNET
DEPRIVED AREA,S
BMA

NOT ALLOWED AN OPINION, please,please,it couldn't happen but wouldn't it be delicious if doris decided it was to soon,

twang,twang,twang,twang, LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 May 20 19:27
Lives must always come before money.
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:32
The massive hole in your argument is that it's the CMO, CSA and SAGE who are advising on this approach. You know, the actual experts in these areas. It's their judgement that it's the best approach considering all factors.
By:
1st time poster
When: 15 May 20 19:33
ironic that its schools,because I did spend a week trying to educate cider and the loons that the unions were calling the shots not for a while and the right will just have to suck it up, daily mail starting a war against the unions doesn't help, LaughLaugh
By:
Cider
When: 15 May 20 19:47
If SAGE were saying teachers should get medical grade PPE the unions would be arguing the NHS is the priority and they don't want to scare the kids. They would be against anything that meant returning to work.
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