If the North East has the highest local R rating at 0.8 in the UK.....

Some data must be behind others is all I can think.

The entire mechanism for measuring the reproductive number is through the analysis of lagging indicators.
As such, it's out of date before you've even finished your "current" calculation.

Increasingly, you'll hear more about the prevalence of infection alongside the reproduction number.
A reproduction rate of 1 is not necessarily a bad thing if you have a low prevalence.

as ive posted elsewhere even worse when you consider 10 million in London about to eradicate it all together ,if you believe what your told,would make some places well over 1

0.8 is a mid point

It's quoted as between 0.9 and 0.7 and I've seen 1.0 quoted elsewhere in uk as
a higher boundary

R is number of infections that each infected person causes, according to Hancock today

So likely national r will be closer to higher regions than lower ones

There are more folk up here with it pro rata too

its just a joke hancock says children are least in danger of getting virus,but todays data says 5 to 14 years olds topped the charts for getting it at 18%, only 3% of over 70,s,obviously through shielding,
all these people need to stipulate the difference between catching it and dealing with it, even if kids get a mild dose you don't no what it does to the body in future,mild dose is not a green flag to catch it,all sorts of diseases are mild to some kids but serious to others,you don't advocate catching them

Did Hancock say that today?

Mrs thought he did, I thought he was talking about outcome as in they don't die
when they get it.

Was already tuned out of the guff he was spouting, interesting you heard that.

Eton shut till september,what a surprise,meanwhile the father billionaires want the plebs brats to go to school,liverpool already saying no to june 1st git a feeling there's going to be a few more yet as well.

Well done liverpool

May 15, 2020 -- 6:46PM, thegiggilo wrote:

Eton shut till september,what a surprise,meanwhile the father billionaires want the plebs brats to go to school,liverpool already saying no to june 1st git a feeling there's going to be a few more yet as well.

You're happy that children are missing out on their education? What on earth is there to be pleased about?

If its good enough for Eton...

Measles is the most infectious virus with a reproductive number of 15.
MERS has a reproductive number of less than 1.
SARS-CoV-2 and influenza have reproductive numbers of between 2 and 3.

Had Johnson locked down earlier they may have missed far less school

Neither of those answers the question.

Rather not kill the teachers and parents just so Johnny can pish around in class room where curriculum has been abandoned

Here's what COVID-19 does to your lungs

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May 15, 2020 -- 6:57PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

Rather not kill the teachers and parents just so Johnny can pish around in class room where curriculum has been abandoned

I'd have thought kids in Liverpool would be among the most likely to benefit from any education they could get. Not going to stop anyone going to work is it!

they wont be getting educated its a child minding ,baby sitting service to get mam and dad back to work,brandon lewis already said today,they,d be getting taught social distancing,hand washing etc

Teesside council say schools wont be opening on june 1st

These are the areas that people will moan about being deprived. The irony won't be missed on many.

The deprived being asked to go over the top first all over again.
Nothing has changed, nothing has changed.

It should be left up to the individuals to decide for themselves. A concept unfamiliar to left wing councils tbf.

mumsnet,yummy muumy,s not exactly deprived,met tory children minister vicki ford today and 50% said they wont be sending their kids back

Good idea, determine policy via mumsnet

You got young kids ?

Nope.

Simple really, put the classes on and let the parents make their own judgement.

that's yummy mummy,s mumsnet not allowed an opinion, deprived area,s not allowed one,

oh I get itr brandon lewis can decide who said he,d send his,if they hadn't already left school, ,

the joyful right wing daily knicker twanging going on as they scramble around like ferrets in a sack,trying to form a response to covid is heart warming to behold

forums can have an opinion, they aren't a valid source for policy making.

Do you not see the irrationality? Going to end up with the more affluent areas having the most important age groups getting the f2f education, and the kids in areas who would benefit most missing out.

ok cider get ready with your knicker elastic,

the BMA back teachers union claim that its not  safe to open schools yet,to much virus in the community

TWANG

They would, wouldn't they A union backing people not working, there's a first

MUMSNET
DEPRIVED AREA,S
BMA

NOT ALLOWED AN OPINION, please,please,it couldn't happen but wouldn't it be delicious if doris decided it was to soon,

twang,twang,twang,twang,

Lives must always come before money.

The massive hole in your argument is that it's the CMO, CSA and SAGE who are advising on this approach. You know, the actual experts in these areas. It's their judgement that it's the best approach considering all factors.

ironic that its schools,because I did spend a week trying to educate cider and the loons that the unions were calling the shots not for a while and the right will just have to suck it up, daily mail starting a war against the unions doesn't help,

If SAGE were saying teachers should get medical grade PPE the unions would be arguing the NHS is the priority and they don't want to scare the kids. They would be against anything that meant returning to work.

Cider, you are floundering hopelessly.

the fittest people on the planet are getting 2 tests a week,the best medical care in the world for kicking a ball about for 90 mins,kids are that safe they cant be guaranteed a break for play/dinner timem think someone needs to get their priorities right

you mention sage cider. is that the independant group with government ministers on and who the government give us all the groups names?

Cider going against the will of the noble people of the uk

What a traitor

Kids not allowed to go watch the football

Mps not allowed in Parliament but tories want cheerleaders
For the clown to offset the kicking he's taking

the government are getting absolutely battered on care homes and they are going down the lioe and deny route but itv,ch 4,sky,bbc have had good reporters buried in the system for 2 months now, they have forgotton  more than hancock/doris/cabinet will ever no, what I cant work out why after 8 weeks havnt the government go their own people in their on the coal face, the reporters should be having to push past hancocks team to get their information, its mind blowing

Too busy hiding the bodies and losing test results.



Total deaths likely to start falling below average even with Corona as
lockdown proving to be saving so many other lives.

for all those saying hancock,williamson,doris,tory,s say its safe to go back to school,rewind 10 weeks same people said things about care homes,

they just want people back at work , they have no real interest in the kids education . They will get better educated at home ...even the deprived kids in many cases  

  .... education in this country must be pretty fooken sh1te in  that  30% of  children, after 12 long years can't even read and write basic English properly   

a few weeks won't go a miss

There's no such thing as a 0.5 infection rate its either infectious person to person or it isn't

If its below what they claim its never spreading again is it

Viruses don't spread like that anyway but if there was something going round it don't to think "I can only infect half his body"... the utter madness of it start to finish

It started off badly, got progressively more insane as went into the middle, and its like a child has written the conclusion to it

Like a gone badly sci fi script, Batgirl vs Jodies Doctor Who

May 16, 2020 -- 9:32PM, Coachbuster wrote:

they just want people back at work , they have no real interest in the kids education . They will get better educated at home ...even the deprived kids in many cases     .... education in this country must be pretty fooken sh1te in  that  30% of  children, after 12 long years can't even read and write basic English properly   a few weeks won't go a miss

They want people back at work and kids back to school because people are starting to talk?

This is what happens when you attempt to sell a 0.1% flu job as some major pandemic

May 15, 2020 -- 7:57PM, politicspunter wrote:

Cider, you are floundering hopelessly.

politicspunter exhibiting his genius once again, such a devastating put down, it's impossible to come back from such perspicacity. Or perhaps not