Furlough scheme set to be extended until end of september

There have been no reports of claim processing issues.
So, credit where it is due, quite an achievement to get a scheme of this size up and running smoothly in the timescale that they did.

80% until All Hallows' Eve!

I love this scheme

only guaranteed 80% from government until the end of july, he said he wanted it to stay at 80% with employers until the end of october so he wants employers to contribute some.

I have a lot of concerns with this but I have to say he has played a blinder so far. Much better than anyone with a job could have hoped for. My number one concern right now is will Companies be able to pay their employees the 20%. I think many cannot and many are tight and will not! imho the only way it will work properly rather than as intended is some sort of grant / tax brake for employers. How can many keep stumping up 20% with no income?

The bigger question is wtf is going on? This is not Ebola or a seriously bad pandemic. The survival rate after contracting the virus I think is in excess of 99% or close to. There is a huge huge huge financial / economic crisis looming and we are not even thinking about what we are going to do about it. This is most troubling.

Good news. Takes the pressure off for many (myself included) and buys some time.

Just extending the pain.

A politician doing what a politician does best..."Kicking the Can down the road" and spending money that comes from the taxpayer...

For those who are getting paid because of this scheme its far from painful inside trader.

We will have to pay for it and it (combined with ott regulations) means its going to take years to build up population immunity.

Cannot see people who are out there driving vans and stuff being too happy paying taxes to pay for millions to get £2.5k a month for doing nothing.

Sunbed out feet up,beautiful just make sure you avoid work and join a union..

the right wing tory Brexit loons will be fuming,GIVE US OUR SLAVES BACK, bridge,bake et al foaming at the mouth,theyve still got Brexit to look forward to

Maggie fcuked your poxy unions...BOY   

I am starting to believe these morons do not know what to do about Brexit and have just shoved their heads up their proverbials.

Wtf is an airline supposed to do. Dreary O'Leary was about to say 40% of flights will resume in July and while on air Spain announced a 14 day quarantine period on entering their country!

I don't like Dreary, I don't like Branston and I don't like Wee Willy Walsh but what an earth are they supposed to do?

dotch is not sleeping now ,another 4 months of free money he,ll be having a nervous breakdown

Some Conservative thinkers have even suggested privately, as is the case in Germany, that a scheme such as this, could be made semi-permanent.

The Kurzarbeit system, which is a century-old is credited with saving a million jobs a decade ago, and is paid at 60% of wages, but is untaxed and applies to hours lost rather than requiring a worker to stop employment.

Such a scheme would basically be an expensive form of employment insurance, operating through the private sector rather than the Department for Work and Pensions. This is not in the Treasury's plans, as they seek to reaffirm the support is temporary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52634759

Hopefully people are sensible enough not to go back to work,because it's blatently obvious they are trying to push herd immunity through in dribs and drabs causing 10s of thousands of deaths,already 65 verminous lot..Next will be the schools will be 1000s of not 10s of thousands abstensions,already informed his teacher my lad will not be going in unless everything is perfect,that will be a 50/1 shot from what she told me..

whispering r/e 20%..I believe some companies are saying they will pay but only when business resumes and will be paid gradually.

the looney oleary thinks people will be gagging for a fortnight in spain,so furtlough helps him,as you,ll be able to quarantine for 2 weeks when/if you get back

We need to the detail about the 20% tbf

Who said this : "Today’s announcement is a message again to employers that the government will stand behind them if they stand behind their workers."

Have a guess .....

Harold wilson

or a good socialist from the current government

None other than Len McCluskey, Sunak's new drinking buddy.

Rishi will be an honorary member of every working mans club in Yorkshire and holding the red flag at the front of the Durham miners gala.

Rees mugg worried Sunak's spending the brexit money...

He's more popular than me laura

Sushi Butcrack, working class hero indeed!

to all current & future taxpayers...best of british

Heaven help us all without furlough

There really would be nowt left.

Can you imagine having spreadsheet in charge

Or the saj.

Rishi for next Labour chancellor when Boris bombed out and Starmer is PM!

Hopefully I can sit on my arse until October getting 80% of salary.

If your'e near retirement,they will want you back in nice brucey bonus if they can knock a few more off..

A long way off retirement..

Hoping more of these 80% ers find betfair exchange

thank you sir rishi...

ah well it might as well rain until September

So they have no intention of ending this before October then

This is going to be here until this time next year at least

lockdown hokey cokey until the masses welcome or accept the needle

May 12, 2020 -- 2:52PM, layingisthewayforward wrote:

A long way off retirement..

It's brilliant!

Even better when you don't have to think about going to work on the tube in a pandemic or on a bus or stuck aongst hundreds in a sweaty hot factory,what could possibly go wring.

May 12, 2020 -- 3:08PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

So they have no intention of ending this before October thenThis is going to be here until this time next year at least

I do hope so, and until August 2021 would be even better for me if you could see your way to influence the Government.  Thanks.

Im sure VAT at 30% will help pay for this
VIRUS

Plus council tax up 20% as well

Just for starters
Send to Mr Ferguson

not really sure why the tory,s /right are given a voice/media time anymore after assuring us for 10 years ,the magic money tree doesn't excist,doris and co are even singing the4 virtues of health and safety,nanny state doris and co used to call it,
is there any reason the tory party are hanging about,they could at least the decency to change their name,

The conservative and unionist party. Hmm, change unionist to socialist, that should do it.

I like bashing the Tories as much as the next man but we have got serious problems here. Gloating is not going to help. They really do not know what they are doing. Without public transport the country cannot get back to work. Schools need to open. We need leadership. Where is our Churchill?

We've got Lord Haw Haw instead

Nodding his head at the back of your car.

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Rishi for next Labour chancellor when Boris bombed out and Starmer is PM!

what a Tory you are

The problem with Starmer is that he joined the wrong party.  He may have made a fine Conservative PM, but he decided to go for what may be an eternity in opposition

Starmer getting some good polling stats today

The climb back is starting with a small step

Starmer will be next PM but it wont really matter a jot by then will it.  He will be known for implementing the greatest austerity ever seen in this country.

Why would he implement austerity?


Sunak is proving it was the wrong policy and a tory choice

Sunak is acting in the middle of a crisis without worrying what happens in the medium term. Surely you can see how badly this ends?

even though the tory money tree didn't excist and has been found, THE SAJ, says there should be no tax rises to pay for the pickings of the tree,even saying taxes should still be cut, imagine that labour voters getting Corbyn on steroids and paying less tax for the pleasure

It's a crisis if he doesn't pump in cash

Same as 10 years of tory austerity

Pumping cash does pay for itself if the money gets spent

Well lets wait and see yhtl.

Taking money out is the biggest worry.


USA have tap on full so we would be stupid not to turn on ours

You can't wait and see because you won't see the carnage of not having this furlough.


Sunak had to make a choice, I reckon he got it right. History isn't his judge but today is.

yhtl. Im not disagreeing with what you say. Its what happens next year thats the issue when we have a wrecked economy and a much greater national debt.
I just think theres a naivety amongst a lot about the position we will be in in 2021 onwards and I fear huge health and social consequences as well as massive increases in poverty.  It certainly isnt just a money versus lives debate that many on here believe.

tory,s doubled the national debt in 9 years and no one give a fooooking foook 4 months ago,waving union jacks on Brexit day,bring on the world,so don't tell us torys/right wing are worried about the debt

Thank you for another interesting contribution.

Free Booze for 6 months 

I understand that dotch

But my point is next year would be so much worse
without furlough so him copping flack would be unfair.

Don't forget we may have a no deal brexit to absorb too

We need as much of our infrastructure to survive as possible

Workers going back part time where possible, they therefore won't be getting anywhere near their normal hours and will get their money topped up to the 80% that theyb are getting now, very few will find themselves in a position where they will work in excess of the 80% so will therefore be working at a loss.

This plan should have been happening from the very start, instead of a few working for their full money and a bunch at home with their feet up (me included), everyone should have been at work part time and everyone get their money supplemented, that would have been fair all round.

The other problem that this will have caused, and it will be seen when/if workplaces get back to normal is that their will be an atmosphere of bad feeling between the "workers" and the "furloughers" going forward.

A time for managers to manage then.

Getting folk confident to get back to work is possibly the biggest worry at the mo.

Getting figures down this month can see confidence return, and a stepped return with no great increases in r will help further.

tory,s double the debt in 9 years and were that worried about it, they promised 4 months ago
40 new hospitals
50,000 new nurses
25,000 new policeman
record rises in minimum wage
levelling up the regions
hs2
broadband for every household

that's how worried about debt the tory,s/rightwing are

Duffy

We were in such a state we had to close and mothball to prevent folk being forced to take risks to stay out of serious debt.

It's a really necessary step, imo

We are going to see the real thinking very soon, I think the realiseation is already there, but when the "R" rate goes above 1, whether they shut down or push on will reveal whether or not the only way is to just go for it or not.

Although not as blatant as the states, we are adopting in a more subtle way a similar approach to Trump, we are opening up, it's much easier to keep going in the face of the figures going the wrong way if you're already in the midst of attempting to get back to normality.

Once we have a lot of places back open again there will be a mood encouraged to push on and keep going rather than to allow ourselves to slip back down the snake to square 1, especially as there will be no guarantees that we'll ever succeed with the softly softly approach.

Social distancing is a business killer, you either open up and go for herd immunity or shut down completely and hope a vaccine is the answer, we have seen both examples used elsewhere, the one approach that doesn't work and causes maximum disruption is the one we are using.

They tried herd immunity and killed 50,000 folk

We need to get back to test track and trace which has been shown to work elsewhere in the world

Exactly herd immunity has been a catastrophic failiure David kig and john Ashton saying today once again we are doing the wrong thing,all for the sake of maybe one month..

Exactly herd immunity has been a catastrophic failiure David kig and john Ashton saying today once again we are doing the wrong thing,all for the sake of maybe one month..

Exactly herd immunity has been a catastrophic failiure David kig and john Ashton saying today once again we are doing the wrong thing,all for the sake of maybe one month..

Exactly herd immunity has been a catastrophic failiure David kig and john Ashton saying today once again we are doing the wrong thing,all for the sake of maybe one month..

DAILY MAIL RIGHT WING TORY,S RUINNING story,s lies about furlough workers refusing to work enjoying a jolly,its the company not the individual who applies for work,you don't have to apply,if you've got work,can work safely don't apply tyo furlough workers and if your workers wont return under safe conditions ,get rid and get some new ones,plenty out there to chose from,i,d guess these bosses arnt working safely ,hence why there not getting rid of people who wont return

Time to MAN UP... BUMPKIN

Must be plenty of vermin employers out there,hope they get exposed and taken to the cleaners or jailed..

Vermin employers claiming furlough and not passing it on to workers

Scum

Already seen a few getting exposed,more than likely a few on here with their attitudes..

some of that  going on LAUGH, claiming furlough and trying to get people back in,double bubble so to speak

So it remains at 80%!

I’ll take that till October if I have to but it really is madness.

the right wing tory loons trying to point the finger at workers but its the people who the tory,s spend all their lives telling us ,etc are the risk takers etc, who are claiming the furlough not individuals,its not compulsory to claim the money

And you can still pay dividends whilst claiming

Or ship profits into tax havens...

Dudes

If you can keep your heads while others around you are losing theirs I don’t think you quite understand the seriousness of the situation.

This is bad, really bad.

we didn't vote for it,its been imposed on us by those lovable brexiteers,just enjoy the ride

What's bad, or rather scary, is that we are headed down the herd immunity route, pretty clear now, has to be done though, let's hope that the anti bodies last long enough to make it worth it.

People are catching on teachers/parents/unions/ other countries are destroying us in the press,people will be taking the government to court for manslaughters this dribs and drabs to work is just enabling people david king and john ashoton to make public aware..
Tyey will try and infect as man as possible but i don't see it happening,infact they will make things ten times worse because everyone knows what they are upto..At least the ones who are relatively intelligent,unfortunately the ones who have nothing are going to be lambs to the slaughter.

a lot of people are key workers who voted  this lot in ....  while the remainers (teachers,social workers,civil servants)  are getting a free paid holiday for a few months .


like already mentioned ...there will be a lot of bad feeling later on when the furloungers  return to work 

no one should be getting more for not working than a key worker in full time work ... most of all the nurses  ...why didn't they just give every single person 200 a week flat fee and be done with ?    ...with rent payments on top if applicable and a  long as you like mortgage holiday  ...(mortgage and personal loans suspension )

Boris reminds me of Barry from Auf Weidesehein pet   ...why use 50 words when 500 will do ?

This looks more and more like a scheme to delay mass redundancy. £300Bn and counting. Loss of tax revenue. Where is this going? Is it a health crisis?

What do they talk about at G20 and Davos? How to write off debt by printing money?

Q. What do they talk about at G20 and Davos?
A. Whether they should buy a Ferrari or a Lamborghini and how can they get the plebs to pay for it.

What would the cost be without furlough

You might save a few billion short term but that would soon be outweighed by
a crashed economy

People just being stuck into permeant debt that's all

They will never repay this and say goodbye to pensions, enslaved for the rest of your life repaying all the money they magicked up from nowhere

They are plucking extra numbers out their a*ses for the death total as well, reporting them late at night so the next add there's 4000 that's been added out of nowhere

No wonder people are confused

you don't have to repay it just live with it
man utd fans don't boycott old Trafford because of their debt

We finished paying off ww2 debt in 2006

At end of napoleonic wars our debt was at its highest in terms of gdp

We would need to hit 6 and a bit trillion to match that
We were under 2 last I looked

the next chancellor