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27 Apr 20
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NHS doctors and GPs in the UK have been sent an alert warning them to look out for a rare but dangerous reaction in children that may be linked to coronavirus infection.
The alert said that in the past few weeks, intensive care departments in London and other parts of the UK have been treating children with a “multisystem inflammatory state” that looks similar to toxic shock syndrome or sepsis.
These young patients of varying ages have had gastrointestinal symptoms – tummy pain, vomiting or diarrhoea – and inflammation of the heart, as well as abnormal blood test results.
The alert, which was issued to GPs in North London by their clinical commissioning group but has now been shared more widely, advises such cases are urgent and should be treated as such.
It is unclear how many have been diagnosed with the illness, although the numbers will be low.
Some of the cases have tested positive for coronavirus but others haven’t.
There is “a growing concern” that a coronavirus-related inflammatory syndrome is emerging in children in the UK, the alert says, or that there may be another, as yet unidentified, infection linked to these cases.
The alert said that in the past few weeks, intensive care departments in London and other parts of the UK have been treating children with a “multisystem inflammatory state” that looks similar to toxic shock syndrome or sepsis.
These young patients of varying ages have had gastrointestinal symptoms – tummy pain, vomiting or diarrhoea – and inflammation of the heart, as well as abnormal blood test results.
The alert, which was issued to GPs in North London by their clinical commissioning group but has now been shared more widely, advises such cases are urgent and should be treated as such.
It is unclear how many have been diagnosed with the illness, although the numbers will be low.
Some of the cases have tested positive for coronavirus but others haven’t.
There is “a growing concern” that a coronavirus-related inflammatory syndrome is emerging in children in the UK, the alert says, or that there may be another, as yet unidentified, infection linked to these cases.
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You have a link for this and can it occur in young adults.
My son-in-law has had these symptoms for a month and tested positive for the virus.
My son-in-law has had these symptoms for a month and tested positive for the virus.
its all over uk media and the sun
maybe its on nhs website, or similar, or contact a uk doctor via twitter ask them to post exact warning sent to them.
maybe its on nhs website, or similar, or contact a uk doctor via twitter ask them to post exact warning sent to them.
at least we can all satisfy ourselves that it doesn't look like elite sports people are effected,
take us all back 10 weeks to quote the scientists ,we don't no a lot but what we do no is
under 60,s and children only suffer very mild dose like the flu ,normal cold,
take us all back 10 weeks to quote the scientists ,we don't no a lot but what we do no is
under 60,s and children only suffer very mild dose like the flu ,normal cold,
It may be an unconnected pathogen.
Thanks for the tip off.
Thanks for the tip off.
aye & these would be the same scientists that advise the governent. Please rearrange - tree same from branches the
NHS doctors and GPs in the UK have been sent an alert warning them to look out for a rare but dangerous reaction in children that may be linked to coronavirus infection.
Some of the cases have tested positive for coronavirus but others haven’t
........... They then go on to include a further 5 symptoms to add to the ever growing list of symptoms just to add further confusion and fear . How long before they add buboes to the list ?
Some of the cases have tested positive for coronavirus but others haven’t
........... They then go on to include a further 5 symptoms to add to the ever growing list of symptoms just to add further confusion and fear . How long before they add buboes to the list ?
1st time poster...I don't wish to appear pedantic but you continue to use 'no'when it should be 'know'..HTH
Apr 27, 2020 -- 1:08PM, twizzle22 wrote:
1st time poster...I don't wish to appear pedantic but you continue to use 'no'when it should be 'know'..HTH
He / She also has no idea how to use an apostrophe instead of a comma. Grammar and spelling was never a part of their education it would seem.
Caught my daughter using of instead of have over the weekend.told her if it happens again she’s out my will.
1st time poster will be thrilled. Yet another thing possibly linked to Covid that he can massively exaggerate in an attempt to make everyone else as scared as he is.
The old "save the economy" mob will have a tough sell if children start to suffer.
Duffy are you saying not saving the economy is a legitimate positon for anyone aged above 5 to hold?
I don't see parents willing to send their kids back early,think there will be some comeback from teachers as well already talking of ppe as well,the whole thing would be an utter shambles.
Yes teachers will try anything to avoid doing any work.
Another great take from dochinite in true rightwing style teachers don't work cliche..
Dotchnite,
No not at all, I just question how many are really staying awake all night worrying about the economy, or battered women, or suicides, or I they just using those issues as ammunition because their routines have been disrupted.
I understand that there are people genuinely concerned but therre are most certainly plenty who couldn't really give two sh1ts about those issues as well but are happy to use them in an argument.
No not at all, I just question how many are really staying awake all night worrying about the economy, or battered women, or suicides, or I they just using those issues as ammunition because their routines have been disrupted.
I understand that there are people genuinely concerned but therre are most certainly plenty who couldn't really give two sh1ts about those issues as well but are happy to use them in an argument.
People will be worried about the economy when it cant fund the NHS and half the Nurses are made redundant.
thegiggolo. Is everything in your life right or left wing? My current experience in the teaching profession is that they are appalling compared to NHS staff, Supermarket staff etc.
But you just carry on in your simple right wing/left wing world.
thegiggolo. Is everything in your life right or left wing? My current experience in the teaching profession is that they are appalling compared to NHS staff, Supermarket staff etc.
But you just carry on in your simple right wing/left wing world.
My experince is that teachers are superb from the schools my kis have gone to and do more than they need to,attackig teachers has always been a rightwing take i know as family members and rightwingers do oit in general..Also you;re constant chirpsing of getting people back to work regardless of anything,another rughtwing take all the posters that push this agenda tend to be rughtwing and obviously for theor various financial interests..Theior seething everyday is so transparent with the anguish in theor posts like yourself.
lead article on every online newspaper but dotchnite marks it down to a poster on here, but I,ll accept it,
knuckledraggers proving again a well paid for education,still doesn't take away from them been as thick as fooooook
thegiggilo
27 Apr 20 12:53
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My experince is that teachers are superb from the schools my kis have gone to and do more than they need to,attackig teachers has always been a rightwing take i know as family members and rightwingers do oit in general..Also you;re constant chirpsing of getting people back to work regardless of anything,another rughtwing take all the posters that push this agenda tend to be rughtwing and obviously for theor various financial interests..Theior seething everyday is so transparent with the anguish in theor posts like yourself.
^
You do realise that everyday we stay in this severe lock down it costs the Treasury £3bn.
That is ultimately £3bn less for public services going forward.
27 Apr 20 12:53
Joined: 04 Aug 07
| Topic/replies: 14,744 | Blogger: thegiggilo's blog
My experince is that teachers are superb from the schools my kis have gone to and do more than they need to,attackig teachers has always been a rightwing take i know as family members and rightwingers do oit in general..Also you;re constant chirpsing of getting people back to work regardless of anything,another rughtwing take all the posters that push this agenda tend to be rughtwing and obviously for theor various financial interests..Theior seething everyday is so transparent with the anguish in theor posts like yourself.
^
You do realise that everyday we stay in this severe lock down it costs the Treasury £3bn.
That is ultimately £3bn less for public services going forward.
thegiggolo. Anybody who doesnt see the need to get the economy back to work is naive at best as it pays for every public service we need.
My anguish as you pathetically phrase it is simply that I want our NHS to exist in its current form next year and pensioners to continue to get their pensions. Why cant you see that without ranting about right/left wing nonsense.
1st time poster resorting to abuse again on an internet forum. Rather an amusing insult if you read his average posts on here.
My anguish as you pathetically phrase it is simply that I want our NHS to exist in its current form next year and pensioners to continue to get their pensions. Why cant you see that without ranting about right/left wing nonsense.
1st time poster resorting to abuse again on an internet forum. Rather an amusing insult if you read his average posts on here.
I agree to a point Dotchinite/IT,they know we aren't a point to do something like easing,it will just spread worse,the slow closure is to blame for where you are.
Don't waste your time Dotchinite with your fake analogy of caring for NHS etc,your daily posts have given you away exactly the same way others post that have some significant financial interest that will effect them..But unlike the plebs,under 50s working for minimum wages and inflated rents and unaffordable housing,the ones that moan most about getting them into work have all the capital..
What is wrong with you? You have no idea of what I believe or my financial position. It seems to me you are calling me a liar here which of course is easy to do on an internet forum. Theres zero point me wasting any further time talking to you at all.
Hope your dad is on the mend thegiggilo.
Blame Boris,he wanted to keep the economy going and he did far too long until he got the numbers were too much for NHS after leaning towards herd immunity.
Ye should be prepared to eat porridge every day and go barefoot if it could save an elderly relative.
Blame Boris,he wanted to keep the economy going and he did far too long until he got the numbers were too much for NHS after leaning towards herd immunity.
Ye should be prepared to eat porridge every day and go barefoot if it could save an elderly relative.
Apr 27, 2020 -- 3:04PM, InsiderTrader wrote:
thegiggilo27 Apr 20 12:53Joined: 04 Aug 07| Topic/replies: 14,744 | Blogger: thegiggilo's blogMy experince is that teachers are superb from the schools my kis have gone to and do more than they need to,attackig teachers has always been a rightwing take i know as family members and rightwingers do oit in general..Also you;re constant chirpsing of getting people back to work regardless of anything,another rughtwing take all the posters that push this agenda tend to be rughtwing and obviously for theor various financial interests..Theior seething everyday is so transparent with the anguish in theor posts like yourself.^You do realise that everyday we stay in this severe lock down it costs the Treasury £3bn. That is ultimately £3bn less for public services going forward.
no it is the interest on that amount that it not available. And once again when, pre-virus, trump almost doubled the deficit in the usa, I didn't hear you screaming about it.
lapsy pa 27 Apr 20 14:52
Hope your dad is on the mend thegiggilo.
Blame Boris,he wanted to keep the economy going and he did far too long until he got the numbers were too much for NHS after leaning towards herd immunity.
Ye should be prepared to eat porridge every day and go barefoot if it could save an elderly relative
They kept him in for 4 days was supposed to stay in a lot longer,told him wssn't worth the risk wioth corona virus and to put that into perspective my area is 134 on the list,that's how safe it is to be in hospitals..So bnow is siting at home with anti biotics in agaony only on basic pain killers and waiting for an op,altough he said he was relieved to get out of there..
Hope your dad is on the mend thegiggilo.
Blame Boris,he wanted to keep the economy going and he did far too long until he got the numbers were too much for NHS after leaning towards herd immunity.
Ye should be prepared to eat porridge every day and go barefoot if it could save an elderly relative
They kept him in for 4 days was supposed to stay in a lot longer,told him wssn't worth the risk wioth corona virus and to put that into perspective my area is 134 on the list,that's how safe it is to be in hospitals..So bnow is siting at home with anti biotics in agaony only on basic pain killers and waiting for an op,altough he said he was relieved to get out of there..
one for ditch to go and do the ironing,
in research in china,usa, the under 40,s tested positive for corona have shown a 7 fold increase in strokes ,in hospital admissions,
but remember it onle effects over 70,s with underlying conditions
in research in china,usa, the under 40,s tested positive for corona have shown a 7 fold increase in strokes ,in hospital admissions,
but remember it onle effects over 70,s with underlying conditions
An odd one,possible it can now be kawasaki disease,lots more than normal of cases of that too in Northern Italy.
There was a study done by the Department of Biomedical Engineering , Northwestern University and Boston Medical Center , posted April 10th titled
"The Role of Vitamin D in Suppressing Cytokine Storm in COVID-19 Patients and Associated Mortality ."
They found a pattern of two peaks , one in very young patients and one in the elderly population . they hypothesised that cytokine storm and
immunosuppression were major reasons for admission to intensive care units . They were possibly activated by the innate immune system in the under
4's and the adaptive immune system in the over 60's . this part of the study was based on 63,002 cases from Spain .
It was removed a few days after I read it as the medical research had not been evaluated so could't be used to guide clinical practice .
"The Role of Vitamin D in Suppressing Cytokine Storm in COVID-19 Patients and Associated Mortality ."
They found a pattern of two peaks , one in very young patients and one in the elderly population . they hypothesised that cytokine storm and
immunosuppression were major reasons for admission to intensive care units . They were possibly activated by the innate immune system in the under
4's and the adaptive immune system in the over 60's . this part of the study was based on 63,002 cases from Spain .
It was removed a few days after I read it as the medical research had not been evaluated so could't be used to guide clinical practice .
the treasury is funded by joe public not out of right wing think tank pockets.
tories can borrow the money, they always do.
tories can borrow the money, they always do.
it would seem the letter was sent because a problem has arisen and nhs need more data because
of its timing overlapping corona virus, and they need doctors to report the cases.
of its timing overlapping corona virus, and they need doctors to report the cases.
If only some of these kids tested +ve for covid then it's hard to see how it could be covid or anything to do with covid
would be odd if it was some other bug if it was all over uk, and not affecting older people.
i guess thats why they want to collect the data
i guess thats why they want to collect the data
if it doesnt match corana spread i would check which easter eggs they have been eating ....
i've been having a gander at some 'out of the box' & scientific/medical theories on this; & my opinion is there are way too many variables to be certain of anything. Maybe this is the new normal? Perhaps the boffins like the attention
the boffins just wanted more data
the letter is leaked and we are bored , under lockdown , what elde will happen ...!
the letter is leaked and we are bored , under lockdown , what elde will happen ...!
i've just boshed a 9inch wasp (slight exaggeration) & i'm pretty sure it was wearing a mask & Mao suit
How does this child reaction line up with other countries experiences?
It appears to be a UK only phenomenon.
It appears to be a UK only phenomenon.
No doubt brought into the country via our open airports.
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