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handjobs 100,000 target,my theory of lining 80,000 stooges up to turn up on one day on 29th,30th still stands imo and would drop down to below 30,000 next day, 8 days including sat sun,means adding 10,000 every day,if there not adding 10,000 at 18,000 tests ,cant see how they can add 10,000 a day from 50,60,70,80,90,000 onwards, with 10,000 increments for example would mean doing half a million tests in 8 days including weekend ,that's  over 100,000 than they've done in previous 2 months,
stinks of a set up job for one day an army of paid volunteers turning up wouldn't suprise me with these kooonts in charge
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Report sofiakenny April 22, 2020 2:20 PM BST
These muppets just open their fat gobs and say anything that is convenient at the time(tell them what they want to hear)but in reality will
fail miserably and  then deflect and shift blame elsewhere..t*ssers.
Report twizzle22 April 22, 2020 2:20 PM BST
Listening to Raab and Starmer at PMQ's was as entertaining as being locked indoors for five weeks (and counting)
Report sofiakenny April 22, 2020 2:22 PM BST
Thought Starmer made a solid if unspectacular debut.
Report 1st time poster April 22, 2020 2:23 PM BST
unless of course raab was acting on orders from cummings and doris to insure handjob is carrying the can for all this, probably more likely than raab thinking they,ll meet target
Report twizzle22 April 22, 2020 2:24 PM BST
Both were as dull as fck
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 2:30 PM BST
that's lawyers for yer
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 2:31 PM BST
i speak from experienceGrin
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 22, 2020 2:32 PM BST
100,000 tests should be easy given they had potential for 50 k when it was first announced as a target.


they can always say they had capacity for 100k tests and folk didnt come forward
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 2:36 PM BST
so many phuck ups; so little intelligence. That's what ye get listening to scientists; who spend most of their lives arguing with each other as they all have egos the size of mountains
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 22, 2020 2:39 PM BST
science based lawyers the worst ?
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 2:40 PM BST
absolutely. I can't wait for Dr Hillarious Jones to join SAGE
Report 1st time poster April 22, 2020 3:00 PM BST
22,000 tests yesterday 4 ,ooo up, but not exactly turning them away, handjob might have 80,000 phone a friends lined up for 29th,dont think he,s got many friends in cabinet at the moment,him for nhs,and wakely for social care look like the 2 been lined up for the scapecoat job
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 22, 2020 3:02 PM BST
maybe saving up test results to announce last day of the month .....
Report Angoose April 22, 2020 3:03 PM BST
Claimed today they have capacity for 43k per day
Report Angoose April 22, 2020 3:04 PM BST
Was quite funny to hear Hancock specifically state that "to date, we have received no PPE from the EU procurement scheme".
Given that they continue to refuse to join it, are we supposed to be impressed by that Laugh
Report peckerdunne April 22, 2020 3:06 PM BST
Probably post millions of swabs for self testing, 100,000 a day done.
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 3:07 PM BST
i'd like to see a few 'experts' joining them; you can bet your last penny that the reason for delays in the beginning, & present, is down to infighting between these doyens. You can hold the government to account for actually treating them as such
Report peckerdunne April 22, 2020 3:08 PM BST
If you have a 40,000 capacity why are you not carrying out those tests.

It's utter garbage from the filthy Tory party.
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 3:10 PM BST
759 deaths in hospitals
Report peckerdunne April 22, 2020 3:13 PM BST
Id like to know how many deaths caused by CARERS travelling from home to home and most probably not fully equipped with PPE, it must be considerable.
Report Angoose April 22, 2020 3:16 PM BST
That's another one of those "we'll never really know" stats. There are plenty more.
Report peckerdunne April 22, 2020 3:17 PM BST
It's a good way of keeping the R rate up also.Needs looking at.
Report Angoose April 22, 2020 3:21 PM BST
One curiosty that came out of todays proceedings in the house was Hancock stating that :

"I can't promise that we will give everybody free masks, I mean that would be an extraordinary undertaking, and we do have to make sure that we have supplies available especially for health and social care staff".

Around 68 million people in the UK, he routinely spouts out data telling us how many many billions of items of PPE have been delivered to the NHS, but supplying one mask per person woudl be an  extraordinary undertaking.
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 3:21 PM BST
They have more than 40000 Available as is , Why are the tests not being taken ?? What is the problem 

And to the utter Disgust of Many on here there will be more 100,000 tests available by the end of the month ...

But what difference if the tests are not being taken ??

Other than Testing Key workers I see very little value in tests at this stage anyway ,Most of our Lovely Diverse and Vibrant Cities

the virus is rife  , how can you test the millions in them , and what difference will that make anyway  ,what are they going

to do , start Track and Trace Laugh
Report Angoose April 22, 2020 3:23 PM BST
There will be a number of factors that include the strict criteria they have put in place for you to qualify for entitlement to be tested and many of the test sites being difficult to reach.
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 3:25 PM BST
"I can't promise that we will give everybody free masks

I thought we were not having Masks ?? So now we are ??
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 3:26 PM BST
The Logistics of testing cannot be that hard to sort out
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 3:29 PM BST
Well if 20,000 a day are going Unused daily he will have 100,000 Available by the end of the month , Perhaps that's the Plan Laugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 22, 2020 3:37 PM BST
i have a friend who is a nurse.

she works in gateshead. they have a lab in her hospital that does tests.


if she wants to be tested herself she has to go to ikea at metrocentre, she does not have a car,

she can get two buses from home to get there or one from work.

she can get a lift off one of the doctors if they are being tested, but if one of them tests positive they will
both need to isolate !!!
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 3:37 PM BST
i think it was yesterday (time & motion very haphazard at the mo) that a care home manager was saying that his staff couldn't get to test centres? This was down sarf & they had to go to Sheffield for the test; go figure!
Report Angoose April 22, 2020 3:45 PM BST
Perhaps Robert Jenrick, when driving around the country visiting his various homes, could pick up a few passengers and drop them off at test centres.
Report 1st time poster April 22, 2020 3:46 PM BST
what everyone assume was incremental increase on a daily basis to hit a 100,000 and carryon from there to hit their 250,000 ambition,not to crawl along the bottom 20,000 a day average then a massive spike and down again, most of these 100,000 were expected to be anti body blood test,once that wasn't available handjob should have just come clean instead on what looks like a typical tory  smoke and mirror exercise
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 3:51 PM BST
Rediculous , Surely  the Kits should be sent to Hospitals , Utter madness , I am sure a nurse is capable of putting a cotton bud up his/her nose

And completing the Process paper wise or online then sending it off  ??  The whole hospital staff should carry out tests on Site ,Would be alot

quicker , Box tests up Courier collects back to the test Center , if Only for hospitals ,care homes ,surely that makes sense ??

rather than hundreds of Individuals heading off to the Metro from same hospital ... A lot of  buses are 2 hourly anyway Could take 4/5 hours to get

there and back ...
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 22, 2020 3:54 PM BST
there are plans to send test kits in post, but post is very sketchy with delays at sorting offices

no idea where she is expected to deposit sample
Report 1st time poster April 22, 2020 4:01 PM BST
cant see how those swab tests can be done by post ,there very painful,uncomfortable getting the swab far enough up the nose to get a decent swab,CAN SEE THE HOSPITAL BEEN FULL OF PEOPLE WITH DIckey noses if joe public is ramming swabs up each others nose,s
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 4:01 PM BST
Mad carry on mate , I mean it cannot be that hard to Simplify matters , Spec for front liners , its getting to the Stage where some care home staff are not going home ,staying in situ for fear of bringing the Virus back in with them , I do not Think Mass testing will be of any value , But for
those dealing with the Sick , even those Public facing Daily , Shops etc , I think its invaluable ...  How hard can that be ???

Some foooker needs to get their Finger out and change the process , because it is clearly not working as planned ...
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 4:03 PM BST
1TP , we are talking about medical staff the least of their worries will be ramming a bud up their nose .....
Report 1st time poster April 22, 2020 4:06 PM BST
nhs.care workers includes cleaners,cooks,canteen staff,delivery people to care homes etc,etc
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 4:34 PM BST
Yes , with Medical Professionals on Site , I would hope there is a Guide line on the said swabs  , Most care homes will also have a nurse on site

There are a lot more intrusive things regarding the Human Body and tests 1tp,of that I can assure you LaughOn another point Doctors surgeries could be used  in Some capacity

to carry out the tests ....
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 22, 2020 4:36 PM BST
on site testing is really a no brainer
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- April 22, 2020 4:36 PM BST
when lice was rampant they organise staff to visit schools and institutions...
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 4:37 PM BST
they're all hidingLaugh
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 4:38 PM BST
Our GP has a Practicioner nurse , She is brilliant What are all these people doing During the Lockdown..
Report Baphornet April 22, 2020 4:39 PM BST
well except Hillarious Jones; who now has his own anchor spot on GMTV. Watching those 3 this morning was akin to watching Andy Pandy Ted & Looby Lou
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 4:44 PM BST
Well it needs Sorting so instead of these Fookers asking about numbers , can they Tell the C'nts to put their Houses in order  and come up with plans that does not include Sending people off to obscure and difficult places to attend .. Which may include the Old bill stopping you and asking you wtf you are going Laugh

MADNESS ....
Report Cider April 22, 2020 4:44 PM BST
For those who are struggling to work it out, the drive through tests are invitation only, and the NHS people who are desperate to return to work are, um, preferring to stay self isolating. Obviously they can't invite more people than possible tests at each drive through. Since the NHS people haven't been turning up in the numbers expected, the invitations are being expanded out to other public service employees.
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 4:56 PM BST
Cider the situation is Rediculous , If and when these tests reach 100,000 A day, why are the Kits not distributed to GP surgeries , You turn up with ID , test is numbered with your details Done and sent off ,at the end of the day Like blood tests ETC , how many testing labs are there that tests can be sent to ?? AS for safety the Testers wear full PPE etc , There are hundreds attending Tescos and Aldi with a few hundred yards of My surgery.

AS stated a testing Center at IKEA , how many are attending they must be standing around doing Sweet F.A for most of the day ??
Report Cider April 22, 2020 5:00 PM BST
There's a priority order. You only know people won't turn up after the fact.
Report casemoney April 22, 2020 5:01 PM BST
Dentist ,another that could be used , Dentist on TV the other day saying they can do nothing to help ... They could be used ??
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 3:25 PM BST
under 24,000 yesterday
of the 22,000 the day before only 13,000 people tested  due to people having to be tested twice,

so handjobs 100,000 tests might be way below 100,000 people as must people are expecting, so we,ve got

capacity 48,000
tests 24,000

people tested who no,s
Report Cider April 23, 2020 3:39 PM BST
We could be forgiven for thinking you're hoping the target isn't reached Cry
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 3:44 PM BST
don't think anyone,s worried what I want/think.just stating the facts,not something the tory Brexit party like dealing in,party games,smokes and mirrors more their game,or at least it was till the virus kicked the shoite out of 4 of them
Report Cider April 23, 2020 4:02 PM BST
Why are you in some kind of daily perma seeth about a target that is still a week away, and won't affect you in any way whether it's reached or not.
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 4:07 PM BST
a week  away including fri,sat,sun,i,m interested in the stroke that's going to be played,

9,000 tests taken by nhs pro,s on nhs workers not working yet their sending them to peoples houses I,d assume only one test kit,how many 1000,s are going to be wasted, or if it counts towards the target are they bothered
Report Cider April 23, 2020 4:17 PM BST
People talk about tests like they are a scratchcard, they are a complicated thing to do, both to ensure the tests are accurate and keeping everyone safe. There's no rule book for this it's largely trial and error. Included in the 100K were the five pillars and tests have only been reported from two of the pillars to date.
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 4:23 PM BST
the main piller doesn't excist and has never excisted, but no one told handjob to stand at a lectern and tell us it did and he,d wasted 16 million taxpayers pounds to  prove it
Report Cider April 23, 2020 4:28 PM BST
Are you blaming Matt Hancock for no reliable antibody test being found so far? Or you think he shouldn't have planned for the possibility?
Report geordie1956 April 23, 2020 4:30 PM BST
Hancock attempted to retaliate against criticism when under pressure by promising 100,000 tests a day by the end of April ... if there were doubts then he should have been more realistic ... we know politicians say things they don't mean but it was extremely rash on his part and if we fall short then he must accept responsibility for any failure. I'm not so sure the tests are complicated in themselves but even the organisational aspect of arranging them has been found wanting
Report sofiakenny April 23, 2020 4:31 PM BST
Just before he became ill Bojo told us the antibody test would be here the following week!!LaughLaugh
A real game changer he called it!
Report brassneck April 23, 2020 4:33 PM BST
Matt will not stop telling lies,that is the problem,Can't understand why they will not tell the true facts and say "we are doing our best"but telling lies every day is an insult to the good people of the country"if they don't know just say "we don't know"
Report nineteen points April 23, 2020 4:34 PM BST
cider you say people talk about tests as if they ere scratchcards. surely thats exactly what handcok did when claiming the 100k tests a day.
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 4:37 PM BST
when you've been lying for 4 years and the loony lemmings lap it up ,why give it up, theres a country full of loons out there thinking it was going alright till doris fell, instead of doris has created this shoite show
Report Cider April 23, 2020 4:38 PM BST
David Nabarro was just being interviewed on Sky funnily enough, and he said the test is complicated.

Some people are really struggling to determine the difference between a target and a commitment. It was a target as it was far from guaranteed, as there were unknowns at that point. I'm assuming it looked more likely the world would have found a reliable antibody test by now. iirc Whitty said it was close yesterday, but no chickens are being counted.
Report nineteen points April 23, 2020 4:40 PM BST
your talking sh1te now mate.best keep quiet if you cant say anything relevant.sometimes in life a man gets it wrong and admits it.
Report Cider April 23, 2020 4:43 PM BST
Best to keep quiet lol, read my posts or ignore, it's your call, but I'll continue to post whatever I want, cheers Grin
Report Cider April 23, 2020 4:47 PM BST
Matt Hancock might come to regret setting such a challenging target for sure. But we are not at that point yet, obviously.
Report Angoose April 23, 2020 4:55 PM BST
The tests are indeed not straightforward, but no so difficult that Germany is able to comfortably perform more than 100k per day and has been doing so for some time.

And don't forget that Hancock stood up in parliament on 23 January and announced that "the UK is one of the first countries to have developed a world-leading test for the new coronavirus."

That was 92 days ago.
Report Cider April 23, 2020 4:59 PM BST
As we all know, Germany started off with a huge testing infrastructure already in place from it's day to day way of operating. UK are good at this stuff I believe, but in comparison a cottage industry, much smaller in scale. It's the antibody test that is proving a challenge for all countries.
Report Angoose April 23, 2020 5:04 PM BST
Indeed, hence the £20m the UK paid to China for antibody tests that don't work.

When Hancock launched his target, he was invited by the media to state whether the 100k figure included antibody tests.
He stated that the 100k would be his number, regardless of whether a reliable antibody test was available by his self-imposed date.

He's now on camera at the daily briefing.
Report Cider April 23, 2020 5:06 PM BST
He's not missed the target yet tho! Surely it was worth the gamble at the time. The alternative was to turn them down and go to another country?
Report Angoose April 23, 2020 5:06 PM BST
Testing capacity has risen from 40k to 51k.
Report Angoose April 23, 2020 5:07 PM BST

Apr 23, 2020 -- 5:06PM, Cider wrote:


He's not missed the target yet tho! Surely it was worth the gamble at the time. The alternative was to turn them down and go to another country?


I agree that it was a gamble worth taking.
Would have been nice to get some form of guarantee on them actually doing what they were supposed to do though.

Report Cider April 23, 2020 5:13 PM BST
I'm all for constructive criticism, but it needs to be balanced, and in the real world in my view. It's in everyone's interest that all of those directly involved in tackling the virus do as well as possible, not just icu doctors and nurses. The online sniping for snipings sake is quite tedious. Khan's mismanagement of tfl has been worse than anything the government has been involved with, in my opinion.
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:19 PM BST
^ Says he "online sniping "   ....LOL ! Laugh
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:20 PM BST
...as he online snipes !
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:22 PM BST
Graph not exponential  from April 5th .... Straight line!
Report Cider April 23, 2020 5:22 PM BST
Bringing some rationality to the conversation ;)
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:23 PM BST
I'm going to get me one of these tests somehow by hook or by crook!
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 5:25 PM BST
mr mewton says everythings going very well, ahead of schedule,  but doing no more tests than when everything was going belly up, Confused. com
Report nineteen points April 23, 2020 5:30 PM BST
leopard are your going for a test or a capacity?
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:34 PM BST
Anti-body test.... I think I have had the virus back in August 2019.... Had a terrible cough for 10 days.
Report Cider April 23, 2020 5:35 PM BST
It wasn't a bat after all then, it was a big cat Laugh
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:41 PM BST
Went to a Korean restaurant.....someone had it in the kitchen (Chinese recent immigrant?)...the only way I could have caught it as I have been doing this strict germ management for the last 10 years.
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:42 PM BST
....to avoid colds and flues.
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:43 PM BST
Got to sterilise all glasses and cutlery you use in a restaurant.
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:44 PM BST
.... with Hand sanitiser.
Report Cider April 23, 2020 5:44 PM BST
I had a really vicious cough earlier this year funnily enough, felt different to normal cough/flu.
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:45 PM BST
I was coughing every two minutes for 10 days it seemed.
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 5:47 PM BST
early jan,1000,s had it 6 in our close family
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:47 PM BST
I have felt different ever since....difficult to explain why though.
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 5:48 PM BST
went to quacks for him to recommend best ,strongest cough medicine .never done that before
Report The Leopard April 23, 2020 5:51 PM BST
I toughed it out....I tend to avoid medicines when I can.
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 5:56 PM BST
testing open to millions of so called essential workers journo,s etc,in other words care/nhs workers have had their chance ,its a numbers game now to keep my job, Laugh
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 6:43 PM BST
looks like another government u turn going to save handjob,2 days ago test ytrack and trace didn't suit the uk,now instead of testing in care homes to save lives,hancocks 51,000 tests going to be opened up to 10 million people from tomorrow, probably be a complete meltdown within a week or so,but well played sir,Devil
Report geordie1956 April 23, 2020 7:30 PM BST
pandemonium at the gov't centres as thousands turn up for a test  ... get all forces personnel: city workers (surely essential in a market economy) & whilst your at it uncle tom cobley (Capt Tom) anall
hancock triumphantly says its all done & dusted
Report nineteen points April 23, 2020 7:43 PM BST
1stp i dont know if yous are taking p1ss about having it earlier in year but i am convinced my mate came back from lanzarote in early jan.he had every symptom they talk about and was fecked for weeks.he lived his normal life,working ,drinking in busy bars,having all his family at house etc.we took p1ss out of him for being so poorly.just saying like
Report 1st time poster April 23, 2020 7:55 PM BST
me,wife and her mam and dad all had it just after new year rasping,painful cough that just wouldn't go,the in laws lasted a good month on and off ,they went to quacks at least 4 times
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