Chit Chat
Have Sweden flattened the curve without trashing the economy?
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All countries should be compared for excess death figures in a year or so.
Then we also see how many died in carehomes etc due to lack of access to healthcare due to lockdown. |
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'Prof Lockdown' Neil Ferguson admits Sweden used same science as UK
The scientist behind lockdown in the UK has admitted that Sweden has achieved roughly the same suppression of coronavirus without draconian restrictions. Neil Ferguson, who became known as “professor lockdown” after convincing Boris Johnson to radically curtail everyday freedoms, acknowledged that, despite relying on “quite similar science”, the Swedish authorities had “got a long way to the same effect” without a full lockdown. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/02/prof-lockdown-neil-ferguson-admits-sweden-used-science-uk-has/ |
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Are Estonia, Denmark, Finland, and Norway valid countries for comparison purposes ?
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All countries are valid Angoose.
Every country in the world. |
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So that's a yes then.
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644 posts and the 645th could have been the 1st and last
bloke in charge of sweedish response said he got it wrong |
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Insider traitor will double down again, that's what he does.
Hey ho |
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Ferguson saying that the virus was much more advanced in the UK than he thought when he modeled it and also saying Sweden has suppressed the virus the same as the UK without needed a lockdown is a massive statement.
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Suddenly, we're paying attention to Ferguson again.
What a time to be alive. |
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Everyone is wrong at times but the pushing of herd immunity was tantamount to murder imo.The countries that locked down quick can operate and are,a messy drawn out affair now for herd immunity advocates,idiots who have cost lives.
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Remember Gupta from the start suggested that the virus was more embedded in the UK in early March than Ferguson thought and thus the rate of growth would be different to what Ferguson thought.
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Lockdown after the virus is embedded has proved pointless.
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You kept pushing herd immunity on numerous threads IT.
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100s of threads
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As a by-product sure. 10-20% infected pulls the R down massively.
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Are you a big fan of Chubby Checker ?
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Sweden and UK now with more daily deaths than the rest of Europe put together.
Great work team! |
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Johnson saving Sweden blushes
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reports thaT the R rate in berlin has risen to 1.95 after large public gatherings in city since lockdown measures were lifted
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300 cases in Berlin with 35 new cases yesterday.
Of course the R rate is higher at the start of an outbreak when number infected are tiny then declines. The maths of Covid is very simple. |
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been battered for months on multiple threads on the simple maths of covid,
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Certainly not the exponenial growth some of the doomsters predicted.
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If everybody has corona r =0
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when valance was predicting 20,000 as a result and deaths were under a 100 ,12 weeks ago,even with lockdown measures was it Hopkins uni predicted 66,000 deaths for the uk, pretty damned good I,d say
and although it cant be proved ,extrapalate current known figures and ferguson was spot on and quoted again yesterday by hancock and last week by doris |
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Rework ferguson with the virus having a higher number infected than he thought at the time and you get different numbers.
High deaths in UK is due to not protecting care homes in order to protect the face of the NHS. |
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Nothing to do with herd immunity (even by stealth)? let as many people get infected and act when cannot cope,just enough so hospitals aren't overwhelmed?
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/17/britain-uk-coronavirus-response-johnson-drops-go-it-alone/
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we don't no how many people are infected,we don't even no how may people are getting tested
last 3 days there,s less positive results but if as some whistle blower says only 40,000 people were tested as a % positive test,s are going up not down,at the same time as their encouraging shielded people to go outside and mingle |
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a link to what the 40,000. was a bbc source on twitter last night,easily solved though handjob could just produce the figures
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Are they encouraging sheilded people to mingle.
I thought it was go outside once a day but keep away from everyone whilst out. |
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well why didn't they encourage them to get out,when everyone else was in
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