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By:
Reynard
When: 19 Apr 20 18:50

Apr 19, 2020 -- 6:47PM, Dotchinite wrote:


So duffy who do you think records figures accurately us or Germany?


Angoose does it . Collates it all on the back of an envelope Mischief

By:
Injera
When: 19 Apr 20 18:51
New technology is accused (by some scientists) of causing breathing difficulties, where the body is unable to absorb oxygen.

I’ve no idea if electromagnetic waves have the power to do this or not. But the shutdown of any and all voices questioning this is a worry.
By:
Injera
When: 19 Apr 20 18:54
SS - yes. If the ONS are right to say stroke and heart disease deaths are falling, there must be a clear overlap in the stats. I should think this also applies to cancer and other very serious complaints.

I’m still shocked by 2017-18 excess winter mortality of 50 100 Shocked
By:
macarony
When: 19 Apr 20 18:55
But the shutdown of any and all voices questioning this is a worry.

It just adds to the suspicion and going over the top using the law and censorship, what do they think they are going to achieve?
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Apr 20 18:57
Injera • April 19, 2020 6:54 PM BST
SS - yes. If the ONS are right to say stroke and heart disease deaths are falling, there must be a clear overlap in the stats. I should think this also applies to cancer and other very serious complaints.

Wakey wakey ............................... Devil
By:
lurka
When: 19 Apr 20 18:59
Anyone got a link to show that deaths with underlying health conditions are not recorded as Covid-19 deaths in Germany? First I've heard of that tbh. I know they don't test post-mortem, unlike Italy, but neither do most countries.
By:
duffy
When: 19 Apr 20 19:00
For those married to German way of moving forward, they have banned all events, public gatherings, sports events with public in attendance until at least September, hell, yes, let's follow the GermansGrin
By:
thegiggilo
When: 19 Apr 20 19:03
Very sensible..
By:
lurka
When: 19 Apr 20 19:03
Old people die of stroke, heart disease, cancer and Covid-19. Of course there's an overlap in the stats. You can't die twice. It would be unusual if those deaths weren't falling.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 19 Apr 20 19:03
That wasnt my question duffy.
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Apr 20 19:03
Only a couple of months since we rid ourselves of German influence . Can't believe there are still folk looking to 'em for guidance Plain
By:
eyeball
When: 19 Apr 20 19:11
I know nobody who's had it . All my friends and family (many living in London)know nobody who's had it . Surely if it was that bad I would have heard of one case ?
By:
edy
When: 19 Apr 20 19:13

Apr 19, 2020 -- 6:27PM, i_agree_with_nick wrote:


Reynard,I wish your father well.Just like to make the point, that in the UK, as far as I'm aware, there's no dispute that if a person dies from a particular condition but also tests positive for COVID-19, they will be included in the stats.This is not the case in Germany.


Can you give a source for that?

As far as I am aware, every person that tested positive in Germany and then dies (before having been declared cured from the virus), will be included in the deaths in relation to covid-19. What Germany doesn't necessarily do, unlike e.g Italy, is to test people post mortem.

By:
Reynard
When: 19 Apr 20 19:16

Apr 19, 2020 -- 7:11PM, eyeball wrote:


I know nobody who's had it . All my friends and family (many living in London)know nobody who's had it . Surely if it was that bad I would have heard of one case ?


That's because nobody has had it . You can't have what don't exist . They only test people who've been admitted to hospital and automatically tell 'em they've got it Whoops

By:
casemoney
When: 19 Apr 20 19:16
the whole point of the Lockdown is spreading out the Infection ,Bar some unforeseen circumstance

the NHS will deal with the Current figures ,We know unless a vaccine the Virus will still be here

For years ,18000 is not good but could be a lot worse Considering it was 9000 2 weeks back ..
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Apr 20 19:17
It was 24,000 a couple of years ago Shocked
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 19:18

Apr 19, 2020 -- 6:40PM, Reynard wrote:


If it exists then how come the 'victims' have inconsistent symptoms ? My father had difficulty breathing , not unusual with a heart attack , yet had no fever , no sore throat , no loss of taste/smell , no flu-like symptoms .Apparently when they test they test for genetic material (which is present in >90% of us) because they haven't been able to isolate the 'virus' Cheers @lurka . Yeah , he's gonna go back and transmit this coronavirus that they said he had on Friday to his 86 yr-old wife ! For the last 7 days it was deemed unsafe for her to visit him in hospital , potentially to say goodbye after 65 years together , but it's perfectly fine to share a bed back home . All the proof us doubters require !


The fact they are saying its peaking and the curve has flattened is a red flag in itself

How can a pandemic, whereby you've tested well under 2m people be "flattening"?

Surely we'd see mass deaths by now, far to controlled

But there's something suspicious going on, like they are making it this bad and obvious on purpose, people are going to get peeved more and more

They want the civil unrest, whatever agenda I don't know, maybe its to test their frequency technology?

Once people see that they ain't going to kick off again trust me, and then its "bye bye rights", and "now you do as we facking tell you"

Riots wont work, the tech they have is way beyond our imagination

By:
edy
When: 19 Apr 20 19:18

Apr 19, 2020 -- 7:16PM, Reynard wrote:


Apr 19, 2020 --  6:11PM, eyeball wrote:I know nobody who's had it . All my friends and family (many living in London)know nobody who's had it . Surely if it was that bad I would have heard of one case ?That's because nobody has had it . You can't have what don't exist . They only test people who've been admitted to hospital and automatically tell 'em they've got it


Many other countries test outside of hospitals.

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 19:19
Yet its a pandemic edy ?

Testing doesn't stop deaths? if it did we'd have a much smaller cancer death rate ffs
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 19:20
Germany has less than 4000 deaths, South Korea even less than that

So testing stops the deaths?
By:
edy
When: 19 Apr 20 19:24
Testing prevents deaths as it will reduce people unknowingly spreading it to the most vulnerable.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 19:25
But they could have been carrying it for days before testing? A week even
By:
eyeball
When: 19 Apr 20 19:28
I should have explained better . My sister in law works as a nurse in a and e so she has witnessed people testing positive and deaths . That is the only person who has had contact with a case .
By:
edy
When: 19 Apr 20 19:28
That's why I said "reduce", not "eliminate"
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Apr 20 19:28
lockdown is a form of mass testing its not the testing that saves lives but the a quarenteen  that follows,without the lockdown deaths would still be doubling every 2,3 days, cases ,deaths will rise again when restrictions are lifted
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Apr 20 19:29
^^^^^^^^^^^^ Really ? Confused
By:
duffy
When: 19 Apr 20 19:34
Germany has way fewer deaths but more cases, it doesn't show that we are attributing too many deaths to Covid-19, it shows that their system, i.e. a far better delivery of PPE, public adhering to the rules better etc etc in short, how they do it is all conducive to keeping more people alive.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 19:35

Apr 19, 2020 -- 7:28PM, eyeball wrote:


I should have explained better . My sister in law works as a nurse in a and e so she has witnessed people testing positive and deaths . That is the only person who has had contact with a case .


How old were they eyeball? and did they have underlying health conditions ?

By:
eyeball
When: 19 Apr 20 19:40
Sorry ,I would be guessing but if the figures can be believed they talk for themselves .
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 19:42
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1251891501036113927

Oh my who couldn't have forseen this ?

I said this would be rolled out when it was Labour pushing it Laugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Apr 20 19:42
120,00 roughly tested positive why would you expect to no someone , and it could turn out you no 2,3,4, people who,ve got it,had it but didn't nno,
if you were one of these young bravehearts no reason to tell anyone ,early on it would get you isolated for 14 days whilst doris was still telling your mates to party
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 19:42
Free internet will be a thing anyway, we're all going to need it for the internet of things

So wasn't really a bold prediction ffs
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 19:44
We'll soon be out of the days where it was kinda fun to have it

Now its a necessity and without it you can't function in the brave new world

Sad times
By:
duffy
When: 19 Apr 20 19:57
In the week ending 4 April, 132 laboratories across Germany carried out an average of 116,655 swab tests per day.

Here though:

The aim to do 25,000 tests a day within four weeks was first announced on 18 March. Four weeks later on 15 April (yesterday) 18,665 tests were performed, with 13,839 people tested. The number of tests has not surpassed 25,000 on any single day, meaning the government has missed that target.

The government could still meet its more vague “mid-April” or “mid to late April” targets to achieve 25,000 tests per day.

Consider the enormous gulf between the amount of tests that Germany have carried out more than us, the relative fewer positives they have compared to us and the huge fewer deaths than us.
By:
duffy
When: 19 Apr 20 20:04
This is why we desperately need to adhere to the lockdown, because we can't keep people alive through this, if we release the lock down, with all the drawbacks our NHS has to deal with in this country, people will die needlessly because our NHS won't cope as the inevitable increase comes.
By:
Reynard
When: 19 Apr 20 20:09
Lockdown is a complete and utter waste of time .
By:
Des Pond
When: 19 Apr 20 20:09
I wish our Health system was as efficient as the German one. And that our covid Death rate was as low as their's.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 19 Apr 20 20:22
We all do Des..but we voted these idiots into power and now we are paying  a terrible price.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 20:29
Lockdown is a waste of time because no one truly believes in this and are still venturing out

When you break it down its still only affecting the elderly who have underlying health conditions anyway

I think people know its next to nothing even if its legit

The shutdown has been utterly pathetic from day 1, even Boris knew it was and decided to play ill for a few weeks, I think he could be on his way out soon because there's no way he wants anything to do with this
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Apr 20 20:32
They just simpley can't stop scoring own goals ffs

China have not reported half the symptoms we seem to be getting told

"the virus rampages through the body, from brain to toes"... They are taking the utter pis*
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