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18 Apr 20 18:20
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That's at least three now at the press conferences.

Fair enough, the CMO has confirmed they will gather the evidence, but the UK hot spots are London and Birmingham. Inner city and multi-generational living, these areas are disproportionately 'BAME' it's not freakin rocket science.
It also appears to only target the 'gammons' working out of #10. Actually no 'journalist' has asked why men are disproportional passing away covid 19 positive (I'm hypothesising the virus is skin colour neutral when seeking out a host).

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By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 18:46
males more likely to be in poorer condition vs females  ,more likely to have lung  problems via work/smoking , more likely to lack the mental strength vs women to stay alive  ...loads reasons really ... 

BAME  more likely key workers/ much more likely to catch he virus to start with  /multi gen families  etc 

skin colouring on it's own unlikely to be a factor  ...not sure why poverty would make you that much more likely  other than the per household stat
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 20 19:00
I'm not sure I agree with all the gender hypotheses, and the stats are 20% of the NHS workforce is 'BAME'. Though of course that's likely to be a higher percentage in inner cities. The point of the post however is that no journalist is asking those questions, even though it affects more people. Only interested in SJW pursuits.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 19:33
journalists seem a bit stupid when it comes to working things out ... they seem to dwell on the wrong things at the wrong time ...they're now talking about deaths Cry   before it was number of cases  Crazy

  I would say it's more cultural ,esp looking at the figures i've seen  ... it stands out a mile  ...there aren't enough key worker deaths   to make that big a difference anyway 

I do think female chances are better  in the older  ...they seem to pull through better - stronger mentally
By:
Just Checking
When: 18 Apr 20 19:44
Could be genetic? People from Europe are apparently better at resisting HIV, bizarrely, due to our ancestors having survived the Black Death.
Well that was what was the result of research a few years ago. Now, if Flu is more a "colder country" thing, and being darwin-ised to be better at having resistance to the Flu means being a bit better having resistance to COVID, that might be an answer.
By:
Reynard
When: 18 Apr 20 19:51
Coachbuster • April 18, 2020 7:33 PM BST
journalists seem a bit stupid when it comes to working things out

Possibly because they are told what to report rather than research & investigate for themselves PlainCrazy
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 19:55
that's most likely true Reynard
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 19:56
I'm not sure who decides what gets reported ...   maybe they report what they want people to hear  Sad
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 20 20:02
The MSM reports on what they THINK the public should want to hear.
By:
eyeball
When: 18 Apr 20 20:08
Vitamin D deficiency could be a contributing factor to ethnic minorities in northern hemisphere countries . Vitamin D is dependant on sun exposure and menalin prevents the absorption of uv rays . Ethnic minorities may need up to six times the amount of sun exposure in the northern hemisphere to produce the same amount of vitamin d as white northern europeans .
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 20:13
eyeball ..with the asians it's because of their dress   ...top to toe , they won't allow sun on their skin   ....

  also  how often do you see Blacks sunbathing ?  ...not that much ...it's nearly always white folk at the beach and a lot of blacks live in flats
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 20:14
the average white person only has to be in the sun for around 30 minutes  .... depending on time of day
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 20 20:20
It doesn't take another Einstein to work out that the biggest risk is exposure to the virus in the first place. People of no colour are the minorities in the densely populated inner cities. It would be tantamount hypothesising that skin colour affected the Grenfel death toll disproportionately. There's nothing wrong with researching into it to obtain the firm proof, but that was already announced before today.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 Apr 20 20:22
Surviving COVID-19 has nowt to do with mental strength.  When you are put on a ventilator you are asleep.  It's purely genetic.  Even if it did, how are you going to measure it to prove it?  Alzheimer's is a mental disorder and a lot more women suffer from it than men.  Is that because of mental strength?  I imagine women are more likely to seek medical attention sooner.
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 20 20:27
It's the survival rate after contacting the virus that is most significant. There's still a very high percentage of people passing with covid 19 with underlying conditions.Some of which could be lifestyle or hereditary.
By:
woundedknee
When: 18 Apr 20 20:31
Thanks for confirming that the Aryan race is superior CoolWink
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 20 20:35
I'm confirming that journalists most definitely are not.
By:
Injera
When: 18 Apr 20 20:40
Re gender, women live longer than men so that’s the starting point for any death rate I guess.

As for bame, journalists plummeting the depths again, searching for a racist angle.
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 20 20:49
The death rate covid positive statistically should be broadly the same, gender wise. It's more of an unknown than the ethnicity aspect. I believe the death rate is much higher in men globally.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 20:56
When you are put on a ventilator you are asleep
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before then
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 20:57
women more likely to fight the virus  ...they are more mentally able to deal with things  , why do you think more blokes commit suicide or are homeless  ?
By:
Cider
When: 18 Apr 20 20:58
We can be absolutely sure, if it was flipped an two thirds women then Karen would be all over twitter and the msm kicking up a fuss about it.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 21:00
Alzheimer's is a mental disorder and a lot more women suffer from it than men
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ALZ  has nothing to do with mental illness and strength lol  ...it's a genetic disorder  thats seems to affect women more ...don't forget women outlive men by quite a distance
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 Apr 20 21:40
I didn't imply it has.  I don't think it does, but it's less ludicrous than your stement about COVID-19 imo.  More women get alzheimers regardless of age btw
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 Apr 20 21:43
mental strength doesn't come into it when you are spaced out on a ventilator.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 Apr 20 21:48
More men are homeless because women get the kids and house under UK law.  Also society is more sympathetic to homeless women, and men are less likely to seek help.  More men do commit suicide, but then more women are anorexic and two thirds of people on the NHS who get counselling are women
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 18 Apr 20 21:56
Studies in south Asian populations with type 2 diabetes mellitus
SA communities have a four-to-six-fold greater rate of people with T2DM than White British communities, and there have been a number of recent studies investigating the relationship with vitamin D status and T2DM in this ethnic group.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5466148/
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 21:57
before the ventilator ... people are ill long before then
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 22:00
More men are homeless because women get the kids and house under UK law.  Also society is more sympathetic to homeless women, and men are less likely to seek help.  More men do commit suicide, but then more women are anorexic and two thirds of people on the NHS who get counselling are women
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OK , this is what i'm saying about mental strength ...women will get up and do something about it  they-ll get counselling ...men will fall into a pit of despair .

you don't tend to get homeless women ...  they normally seek the means to get help with accomodation and generally have a better chance of pulling themselves up  and less likely to lose the accomodation unless they-re mentally ill of course  ...anorexia is a totally different area
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 Apr 20 22:03
Just googled...got this from the ADAA

From the time a girl reaches puberty until about the age of 50, she is twice as likely to have an anxiety disorder as a man. Anxiety disorders also occur earlier in women than in men. Women are also more likely to have multiple psychiatric disorders during their lifetime than men.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 Apr 20 22:10
I'd say on my interpretation on the balance of evidence, men are mentally stronger, but it's very subjective.  and like I said fighting COVID-19 is purely genetic
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 22:11
yeah i think with anxiety it's fear of the unknown ,b'cause despite what everyone says we are a lot more clued up than them   ...yes, they do better at school ...  but we're a lot smarter .

we find out about how things work so we are more assured ....


but they have the mental strength to get through a crisis ,they are more reassuring  ..they come out on top ,it's probably why they make good nurses  ... they tend to be more calm  and tend not to give up on things ..we get more annoyed  ..they also move on quicker in broken relationships .   I can't really answer about  psychiatric disorders ...iu'm not qualified on all that  ...but will take time to read ...maybe they-ve had greater trauma from abuse  ?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 Apr 20 22:13
Although there maybe an issue with men not seeking help soon enough, but this has never been raised as an issue of concern by the government or NHS.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 22:16
men are mentally stronger
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nah ,can't agree with that ...i would be happy to be proved wrong of course   ....most men couldn't cope with multi tasking ,looking after kids while doing arduous tasks  ...

like i said ,look at the amount of alchies, druggies ,homeless down and outs  who can't cope  ...far outnumber women

and that's all on top of the fact that men don't like to show any weaknesses
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 22:18
this is in general btw ... there are some men who cope really well and some women who can't  cope at all ...but it gives me some guide to the covid survivors figures
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 22:19
i'm sort of saying that some men may have had enough of being ill and are actually willing themselves to die
By:
saddo
When: 18 Apr 20 22:22
I'm not surprised the BAME figures seem disproportionate, they keep saying they are 14% of the population.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 18 Apr 20 22:26
Then it must have just been bad luck that the women I've lived with spent one week out every four in a state of raging, tearful hysteria.

If any of those women get hospitalized with this, I hope for the sake of the medical staff that it's one one of the other three weeks.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 Apr 20 22:28
i'm sort of saying that some men may have had enough of being ill and are actually willing themselves to die

yeah subconsciously when they are unconsciousCrazy
By:
Coachbuster
When: 18 Apr 20 22:35
OK i give up with this  ...
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