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impossible123
16 Apr 20 16:54
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Could the incumbent President Trump lose this? His handling of Covid-19 is pants; America has the highest death rates in the world, and more than Italy. He banned flights arriving from China and elsewhere very earlier on, but did absolutely nothing in the two months prior to Covid-19 took a grim hold in March.

From as short as 1.64 he'd be backed at 2 now, and was as high as 2.3 just a few days ago. Could Covid-19 be his Waterloo?

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By:
sofiakenny
When: 16 Apr 20 16:59
They say we get the government we deserve...USA and Uk have Trump and Bojo..
By:
akabula
When: 16 Apr 20 17:30
Who says that? If thats true then we've deserved every government we've ever had. Is that right?
By:
mecca
When: 16 Apr 20 17:33
T
By:
sofiakenny
When: 16 Apr 20 17:36
Joseph de Maistre
By:
flushgordon1
When: 16 Apr 20 17:46
No he will win bigly.
By:
A_T
When: 16 Apr 20 17:52
he'll get millions less votes than Biden but still might win
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Apr 20 18:33
He has a 50% chance.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Apr 20 18:40
I don't follow politics at all, but I have seen Biden. Is that the best challenger to Trump that the US could throw up, really Laugh
By:
breadnbutter
When: 16 Apr 20 18:53
Yea Poor trump gunna be stuck with it for another 4 stretchLaugh
By:
breadnbutter
When: 16 Apr 20 18:57
As for the bbc incited trollish nurds that keep comparing death rates, yes deaths is a weaponize D tool now,they keep comparing highest amount of deaths with Italy v America, that's where these thick thick mugs are at, ffs it would be funny if its not so sad.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Apr 20 18:59
The Don romps it, so the underlying value of 2.0 is massive. BUT!!! The market`s hated him for five years, forever underrating his chances, with Clinton being 1.09 for 2016, so we`re likely to see considerable volatility in his price between now and the election, as the recent 1.6x to 2.3x shows. Was he really more than two times as likely to lose, all of a sudden, as those prices suggest? Of course not, but symptomatic of ridiculously inept political markets, where he`s been matched as high as 5.0!!!
By:
casemoney
When: 16 Apr 20 19:06
Many on the Forum would love to See Steptoe & Di at the helm , the Dynamic duo ..
By:
politicspunter
When: 16 Apr 20 19:07
I think the word you are looking for rather than inept is volatile.
By:
casemoney
When: 16 Apr 20 19:09
Don may have Nuked China by November
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Apr 20 19:19
No; an`inept` market is simply wrong and inefficient, whereas a `volatile` market can be entirely efficient, all the while accurately reflecting the volatility of circumstances and events. Political markets tend to be both
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 16 Apr 20 19:20
long way to go
By:
Cider
When: 16 Apr 20 19:35
tim's right about political markets, Boris doubled in price on election day because a few twitter people got extremely giddy about queues in a handful of London and university polling stations CryLaugh
By:
jollyswagman
When: 16 Apr 20 19:42
biden needs an improvement in cognitive ability or he may get destroyed in the presidential debates. i thought trump may be in trouble but biden often appears senile, what a choice.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Apr 20 20:04
Cider 16 Apr 20 17:40 
I don't follow politics at all...`

US politics, at least in the era of The Don, is the best entertainment on earth; highly dramatic, frequently hilarious, good conquering evil, etc, better than any soap or box set, entirely unscripted, who knows what happens next but it could be anything. And it`s all REAL! It actually, and quantifiably, affects our very existence and you can bet on it all, into inept and volatile markets? Great fun!

Hey, Jolly, fond memories of previous skirmishes
By:
Angoose
When: 16 Apr 20 20:09
They should change the format of the debates.
A round of rock/paper/scissors could be followed by a bout of arm wrestling then a gunfight at the OK Corral.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 16 Apr 20 20:09
Grin

hello tim, hope you are well.

i would ask if you are still taking vast quantities of drugs but having seen your input to the trump thread there really is no need to.

i am surprised you havent been added to the clinton 'kill' list.

specials look well and truly dead, you would think c5 could find some dummies, test them for covid and throw them in a house for a month or two.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Apr 20 20:11

Apr 16, 2020 -- 8:04PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Cider 16 Apr 20 17:40  I don't follow politics at all...`US politics, at least in the era of The Don, is the best entertainment on earth; highly dramatic, frequently hilarious, good conquering evil, etc, better than any soap or box set, entirely unscripted, who knows what happens next but it could be anything. And it`s all REAL! It actually, and quantifiably, affects our very existence and you can bet on it all, into inept and volatile markets? Great fun!Hey, Jolly, fond memories of previous skirmishes


I should have said US politics, I have taken a bit of interest in UK politics in very recent years. US appears incomprehensible from a metaphorical distance. Though of course, even though I'm still working from home, there's a bit more free time so I will possibly get involved.

By:
edy
When: 16 Apr 20 20:16

Apr 16, 2020 -- 8:09PM, Angoose wrote:


They should change the format of the debates.A round of rock/paper/scissors could be followed by a bout of arm wrestling then a gunfight at the OK Corral.


I think the games are a great idea. They should simply play games. Games that challenge the cognitive ability - a round of Simon maybe? Games that show a huge degree of strategic ability - Connect Four anyone? Games that demand trade management - Catan.

The person who comes out as winner should forfeit his candidacy.

By:
Angoose
When: 16 Apr 20 20:30
Boom Boom Laugh
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Apr 20 20:56
Cider; don`t know if you have Fox? It`s the only one you need; pro-The Don for sure, but the only channel that actually gives the other side`s story

https://streamfare.net/foxnews.html

jolly, I laughed twice at your post! Doing BGT?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 16 Apr 20 20:57
His handling of COVID-19 has bought home to me that he is the embodiment of narcissism.  A complete and utter egotist, who's only concern is himself, even in the most desperate of times.  I never liked him, but it washed over me.  Seeing him in person handling this brings home what a **** he is.  He has good people around him though and the US are handling this better than the UK, despite the limited narcissist in charge.  And we should remember that Americans saw him every day 4/5 years ago and voted him in.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 16 Apr 20 21:05
he is the most amazing entertainment ever clydebank, nothing any of us can do but laugh at the lunacy.

no need for gazillions of words really just one that you used narcissism. he once joked along the lines that he could kill a baby and they would still vote for him and for his supporters that is about right.

his covid press conferences are amazing, he clearly doesnt care how many die, have you seen the numbers watching me?
By:
jollyswagman
When: 16 Apr 20 21:07
no tim , really only bb that i could stomach watching, the rest of the genre are just too awful for my tastes.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 16 Apr 20 21:27
Infanticide going unpunished?

Well, here`s dem Governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, positively advocating it, wanting to legislate for it!


"So in this particular example, if a mother's in labour, I can tell you exactly what would happen," he told WTOP's Ask the Governor programme Wednesday. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."

`A discussion`? A discussion about what? Who kills the new-born baby? And in which way they commit this infanticide? It`s referred to as `10th-month abortion`

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47066307
By:
jucel69
When: 16 Apr 20 21:33
The only elephant in the room is when Biden is taken out of the equation due to advanced dementia
The guy can't string one coherent sentence together, I imagine by September/October he will be completely gaga.
Who will be the replacement??
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Apr 20 21:34
It's a contest of the geriatrics. Both look as if they belong in a care home. How the hell could America have sunk this low when China is in its ascendancy?

One thing opponents of President must do is remind him of the Covid-19 death rates in America. The bloke did absolutely no prep after banning flights into America two months ago. And, now he's predicting some states could open this month; he even claimed he'd ultimate say in deciding when states are opened for business, but has now conceded his powers are limited to issuing guidelines.

I think President Trump is too obsessed with the Election.
By:
jucel69
When: 16 Apr 20 21:36
I think Trump will win easily, he's done a great job with the virus
Only 30k dead is a fair achievement especially considering the sh1t storm in New York
I bet all those Dems that were advocating celebrating Chinese New Year with throngs of people are keeping their heads down now!
By:
jucel69
When: 16 Apr 20 21:39

Apr 16, 2020 -- 9:34PM, impossible123 wrote:


It's a contest of the geriatrics. Both look as if they belong in a care home. How the hell could America have sunk this low when China is in its ascendancy? One thing opponents of President must do is remind him of the Covid-19 death rates in America. The bloke did absolutely no prep after banning flights into America two months ago. And, now he's predicting some states could open this month; he even claimed he'd ultimate say in deciding when states are opened for business, but has now conceded his powers are limited to issuing guidelines. I think President Trump is too obsessed with the Election.


He banned flights quickly from China and got lambasted
He banned flights from Europe and got lambasted
Trump and his staff were working with completely falsified figs from China and WHO
He did do plenty in Feb, you can find documentation all over the web with daily breakdowns

By:
Angoose
When: 16 Apr 20 21:42
On the sauce again, eh Grin
By:
jollyswagman
When: 16 Apr 20 21:47
jucel could tell it was going to be bad in january so got himself lots of n95 masks but wont hear a word about the performance of the us or uk governments, that's entertainment Laugh
By:
jucel69
When: 16 Apr 20 21:56
You can't compare an individual to a country.
I guessed and got it right
Govts don't have the luxury of guessing, they have to use numbers and projections
China completely falsified and obfuscated the whole outbreak with help from the crooks at WHO
By:
jucel69
When: 16 Apr 20 21:59
I can understand why people don't like Trump, but the level of hatred from some blinds them from seeing the true picture
Of course he comes out with a load of bollocks but I like his overall message/strategy
The Chinese need hammering and he's the only one that might do it.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Apr 20 22:07
The W.H.O. is a disgrace, Trump is right to shine a light on their corruption and incompetence. Leave the funding up to Gates, Gaga and the rest of the virtue signalling communist sympathisers.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 16 Apr 20 22:10
if someone with an internet connection near hua hin can guess, as quite a few others did, the idea that western governments who spend billions watching what happens in other countries couldnt see what was going on doesnt stand up jucel. china didnt close down half their economy to fight the flu.

trump knows how to play the game like no one i have ever seen, his opponents dont seem to know how to handle him. what p1sses me off is that he does see some things that are unjust (like our trading relationships) but his answers are ill thought out, reactionary and counter productive.

the who leadership are jokers but that is just deflecting from his own failings, good politics that will rile up the base but achieve nothing in the fight against this disease.
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