deaths up to April 3 vs five-year average

Apr 14, 2020 -- 12:14PM, InsiderTrader wrote:

What does it mean?

I'm sure that you will tell us.

Apr 14, 2020 -- 12:16PM, lurka wrote:

Still no numbers from nursing homes etc? WTF is the hold up there? I'm sure some spanner will be on to say it's no worse than 2010 so why are we locking down?

hospital reporting is done daily (except weekends and bank holidays as the compilers dont work then ) as they more or less know they are dealing with covid 19 so can record death as corona or corona related they both get recorded as corona

nursing homes dont have daily reporting as its recorded by doctors who then have to ascertain was it covid 19 or not that might take 5 days or even longer so impossible to do a  daily reporting you could at some time in the future do a  rolling week total and then from that work out a rolling daily average

Apr 16, 2020 -- 11:48AM, edy wrote:

Yes, the online AI course with MIT.If you are starting from nowhere, the Python Foundation offers a beginner's guide itself.https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/If you are just interested in plotting, you'll probably find plenty tutorials on that specific topic at all sorts of locations.

Thanks for that, will take a look.

Apr 16, 2020 -- 9:05AM, lurka wrote:

Duke, I am aware of all that. But you have all those weekly figures going back weeks now. You need to do a reconciliation every week and you haven't done it for even one week. Then you are showing graphs at press conferences which say you are at the same path as Italy and behind France and Spain in terms of deaths. This is nonsense. You are well ahead of Italy and France's trajectory and prob very near Spain on the graph. All of those countries have added their non-hospital deaths to their totals. France a week or two ago added nearly 900 deaths to their daily death total one day because they hadn't been counting nursing homes, then they added hundreds more the next day for the same reason, on top of all the hospital deaths on those days. It is a simple calculation - add up all the weekly non-hospital deaths to date from ONS and add it on to the current deaths total (12,868) and tell the world what the real figure is like all those other countries do and show the public accurate graphs. Just because they aren't reported at the same time or in the same way doesn't mean this can't be done. It is primary school maths.

I understand that as well but we need an accurate and up to date way of reporting covid 19 deaths and i think the best way is hospital deaths as thats the most efficient way of recording thats if all the countries are true and honest and use exactly the same method and timings to report, going back to nursing home and at home deaths what parameters do you set for all the relevant countries to use is it doctors logging into their govt website via secure password and then do that govt publish that on worldometers or whatever site they decide to use or do they the doctors log into a universal agreed site and do it that way who decides how this is done what if some countries say we are doing it this way and others say we are doing it this way what if the doctors in this country use BMA guidelines in reporting deaths even though our govt want them to report deaths by a universal model what if say Italys govt overides its medical profession and says you will report it this way