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PETER HITCHENS " numbers just dont add up"
PETER HITCHENS " numbers just dont add up"
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you are now blocked
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The virus survives inside of droplets expelled when people cough (or just breathe perhaps), for how long nobody knows.
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Too bad. I thought it was a sensible suggestion towards someone so sure that viruses can only be transmitted through injection.
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It is not a new thing for a virus to be spread from a surface. Altho this virus seems to survive for a lot longer than others on surfaces. And whether it is alive or not is a matter of opinion/classification. Some scientists consider them a form of life others don't. But it's largely irrelevant because it can survive on surfaces.
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edy • April 12, 2020 9:55 PM BST
The contents of this post have been hidden for this blocked user. [Manage blocked users] don't waste your time, end of conversation |
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Drawbridge raised.
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Am I too undiplomatic at times towards some people?
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we cant believe a thing we are told at the moment, google, wikopaedia, social media, reality t v , have all given joe public the temerity to stand up and shout bollux, be believed, to lie and to pontificate to grab attention. Then add fake news and uncontrolled media. I
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They've openly come out recently and admitted to tracking people through their phones
Its 1984 through the back door, under the guise of a pandemic  They've got people to demand their chains and ball, add in 5G and the internet of things and you are quite welcome I'm sure |
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Crashing the economy, 1984 style control, internet of things, 5G, the biometric chip along with a vaccine
Welcome to the NWO |
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irish...pm
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the only thing that surprises me is they are so openly talking about it in the mainstream SS
google bill gates CV vaccine ID2020 for anybody not aware |
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1st link "disinfo" lol
they've had a conference about it ffs microsoft, gavi etc ID2020 digital ID meets vaccines through nano technology no secrets being hidden |
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The scary thing about billionaires is that they have the power and influence to affect millions of lives, good intentions or not
It's just one person/one mind We should never allow that, but we do! |
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Why did they send a letter to every home in the country, what a way to spread germs/virus?
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There is talk in the US that China hid the true extent of the virus until after they signed phase 1 of their trade deal with the US and it includes a clause which allows them to renegotiate in the case of an unforeseen event or act of God. They will use the pandemic to renegotiate their commitment to buy $200bn of US goods and services over the next 2 years and then hope that Trump doesn't get re-elected and renegotiate the whole thing. This would explain why they were so eager to silence doctors etc and only confirmed person to person transmission 5 days after the deal was signed.
Of course that doesn't tie in with the theory that the pandemic is fake and all that ID2020 stuff because the US would have known that a pandemic was imminent. Seems that the Chinese have really tried to stitch Trump. |
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Does it literally say "act of God"?
lurka, there is this YouTuber called leowhy86. I first saw him when Platini posted a video like 10 days ago in which he discussed the virus potentially having escaped a university lab in Wuhan instead of having had originated on the wet market like the Chinese government says when it isn't blaming the Americans. I felt maybe at some parts in that particular video he looked too hard for clues to connect, and his titles tend to be a bit clickbaity in general (the video I mean is titled "I Found The Source of the Coronavirus"), but he doesn't appear like one of the loony grifters and total BS merchants (I've only watched a few videos). In general there seem to be some videos in which he simply gives a view into Chinese perspective and point of view, and why China might've hidden it for so long. He's an American that lived in China for a long time, and does so again now I think. Maybe you'll find him interesting (and if he turns out to be a BS merchant I apologise in advance  )https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChvithwOECK5g_19TjldMKw |
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laowhy86, sorry
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Twelve minutes listening to someone who appears genuine enough.
I just wonder if the changes he experienced in China were as much to do with the tint fading on his rose tinted spectacles as they were with changes in government behaviour. |
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If there is anything worse than the clueless going on about 5G, it's them going on about the "Internet of Things" as if it's a conspiracy.
No, it's a marketing term for sticking a feckin thing on your fridge to auto order milk when it runs out. |
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"Act of god" is a legal term I'm sure, it doesn't mean literally an act of god.
I'm sadly someone who has read enough contractual fine print and that rings a bell as a term and .. yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_God In fact, I'm pretty sure it's a common term in House Insurance contracts. In fact (again) I've a feeling it might be in my current one as I remember reading it recently and I'd read my insurance terms. So .. just don't mock the big guy too much if you have a mansion :) |
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SW19 was insured against an act of god
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ok, thanks.
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edy - Seen similar video - and read similar articles, too.
What I cannot give any credence to, however is ... "He's an American that lived in China for a long time, and does so again now I think." -------- Why would anybody, especially an American - give up the freedom of the USA, to go and live in oppressive China ... and, then, worse still, go back for more? 'Not a full shilling' in my book. Same as that silly Englishwoman who went to sh!thole India ON HOLIDAY - after the outbreak, and then whinged about the Government not rushing to get her home. She could have/should have been told to stop there. |
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He might not have gone back. I was likely trolled on that part by one of his clickbaity video titles.
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The term "Internet of things" was likely coined by Kevin Ashton of Procter & Gamble, later MIT's Auto-ID Center, in 1999, though he prefers the phrase "Internet for things".
At that point, he viewed radio-frequency identification (RFID) as essential to the Internet of things, which would allow computers to manage all individual things. |
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The idea of the ioT is amazing (for certain things), but the implementation is by and large a proprietary shitshow of horror.
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All depends on which type of "things" you are interested in .....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo |
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Article 7.6 2. In the event that a natural disaster or other unforeseeable event outside the control of the Parties delays a Party from timely complying with its obligations under this Agreement, the Parties shall consult with each other.
https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/files/agreements/phase%20one%20agreement/Economic_And_Trade_Agreement_Between_The_United_States_And_China_Text.pdf |
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Could be argued that it wasn't unforeseeable to China on 15 Jan I suppose.
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ONS stats released today show deaths in week to April 3 16,387 - average over last 5 years 10,305 - Hitchens should to do a piece about this
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He was on Sky News just now saying that the government needs to unwind the lockdown gradually.
Quite a change from his views just a few short weeks ago when he claimed that it wasn't necessary. Now, he was framing his current view to suggest that if you were to rapidly unwind the lockdown, the public would think that it was never required in the first place. But wasn't that the very argument you were presenting just two weeks a ago  |
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So he didn't think a lockdown was worth the economic pain in the first place and now, even if you could rapidly unwind it (which, practically, you can't) and rapidly start the economic recovery, we should prolong the economic pain because people might get the wrong idea? OK Peter. Another mug who can't admit he was wrong. Just ignore people like that.
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I said at the start of this thread 'he should wind his neck in' pompous narcissist.
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You will need to wait to see the figures for the 12 months after this is all finished to get the full picture. That period could well show a large fall in deaths implying most Covid victims had less than 12 months to go anyway.
At the moment nobody gets enough information to judge. |
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Could also be a massive increase in non-Covid deaths in the coming months.
During this time barely anyone seeing a doctor or dentist. Outpatients are basically empty. Cancer tumours growing. Hearts failing etc. We will never know if we should have just shielded the old and the vulnerable and let everyone else keep working on with basic social distancing. |
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Correct, we will never know for sure.
But that will not prevent many from providing "factual" accounts of how much better it would have all turned out had an alternative course of action been pursued. We do, however, have the Imperial College model that provided an estimate on the impact on NHS critical care capacity under a range of alternate measure sceanrios. |
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Thats true but I heard (could well be fake news) that Neil Ferguson at Imperial made a dreadful error over mad cow disease and the model used for the 500k prediction was several years old, not made for Covid-19 and used assumptions that might well be way off the mark.
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