Could reach a thousand daily figure next week  ..... Hopefully not

Fair comment swagger.

Italy's lockdown started just over a couple of weeks ago, so theoretically we should only be starting to see the effect working about now. In fairness, the number of deaths hasn't actually gone up from the high set last weekend, although it hasn't noticeably moved down either.

Spain declared their lockdown a few days after Italy, so we shouldn't expect to have seen much effect from that yet.

I don't believe the virus is anywhere as dangerous as it is portrayed . The article treetop put up is pretty accurate in my opinion . Iceland have a far better way of testing and their infection and death rates are probably nearer the mark . . it's not smallpox.....

The testing does not give a true figure . You can't just test people who show symptoms and from that create an infection and/or death rate . Testing needs to be indiscriminate to give a better guess . It goes against any scientific study . Almost amateurish in approach . I am amazed .

Is that a total estimated in Scotland of 0.10%?    Seems very low, math not a strong point, along with English ect ect....no bad at growing spuds (no qualifications)

500,000 die each year on average in England each year,do the maths and then why the lockdown,it don't make any sense to effect millions of peoples futures, yes killing our dieing but so they do any given year.

and you think COVID deaths  would be as low as 500,000 terry if left unfettered ? 

i thinks not

That's the problem. We have no idea whether they would be a fraction of that number, or much higher. Perhaps after the frailest have gone, the rest will be left standing.  But perhaps they won't. Maybe the health service gets so overwhelmed that deaths go through the roof?  And maybe the virus mutates and switches to a much higher death rate.

The latter one, in particular, seems unlikely. But it will happen at some point. And that's why some argue that we should be prepared to take the hit, even if it sets the global economy back several decades.  At least humanity survives more or less intact..

If you load up a 1,000-barrel gun with bullets, and play Russian Roulette, you can be fairly certain that pressing the trigger won't kill you. But if you keep doing it, you can be 100% sure that at some point you'll blow your brains out!

Annoying argument for those of us who'd just like to let this play out, but the logic is hard to avoid..

May be more soon Injera. Quite a few cancer ops being postponed to make room for CV patients!   Not sure cancer will simply wait patiently while we get this other thing out of the way.

If you read some of the science, some of those who recover are going to have to live with lung and heart conditions. There's more to this than deaths alone.

What lays in wait for us

Just stop and think about it.In the UK normal flu led to 15,000 deaths last year,16,000 deaths the year before,so on and so forth year in and year out....only 759 coronavirus deaths so far.Why have they then closed the whole UK down for that,its a pimple of the devils arse against other years.If they tell you over and over again a lie you in the end believe but why are they going it? Hmmm!

are there any known lasting effects on people who recover ?

Can't remember the exact figure. Somewhere between 10-20% permanently diminished lung capacity. Presumably for those that have been through the mill.

Cheers for that.
Quite a variation between years, that’s the seasonal nature I guess.

It can depend on the effectiveness of the vaccinations as well. Different strains are in circulation, and sometimes they're the ones caught by the vaccination, and other years many of the strains will slip through the net. I think this year's vaccination managed to work against around half of all the common strains, which is partly why only a few thousand died from flu. I believe the same was true last year. Before that there were a few dicky years when the vaccinations often had a very low hit rate.

PS Death, reason for death, age of death, is obviously very highly stastically analysed already.
Everyone has an eye on that pie, insurance companies, health insurace, drugs companies, government.

I've looked at it a little before, a bit out of morbid curiosity, and because I want to live to 167 so I can be the oldest **** on chit chat.
Identifying the things most likely to kill you then avoiding them is not exactly a bad life strategy. Anyway..

What I found interesting (and depressing) is how various things peak and trough with age.
For males #1 is suicide when a bit younger with a bit of the old murder thrown in so Taggart gets re-runs, then after about 50 heart disease, then when above 90, murder again so Midsomer Murders can get reruns. (That last bit may not be true :)).

I still don't rule out topping myself, but I think it's unlikely as if I did .. who would Protect The Grail?

So called "deaths of despair" have been on the rise in recent years and, I fear, unlikely to recede anytime soon.

The diseases of despair are three classes of behaviour-related medical conditions that increase in groups of people who experience despair due to a sense that their long-term social and economic outlook is bleak. The three disease types are drug overdose (including alcohol overdose), suicide, and alcoholic liver disease.

talking above about drugs, ive just been for a nice 45 mins stroll, hardly anyone about town, then a fight outside the chemist, around 20 druggies with their dogs, it seemed one had tried to jump the orderly queue, why was there  no police there?, throughout the last 2 weeks ive seen less police on the street than before (and then they were scarce)