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Coronavirus reported comfirmed cases and deaths by country
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Because this is a couple of weeks of lockdown for years of being able to live normally again.
This virus doesn't just kill the at risk groups. It will do so more in the early stages, but once the ICU hospital beds are full, then more people at lower risks will die. Spreading the disease will just reduce the available capacity and mean more people die until a vaccine is found. The measures being taken could reduce the number of deaths multiple times. I think the estimated figures for Iran were 1,000,000 deaths by doing nothing, 100k for some measures and 10k for full measures. We're all going to look at that differently but I'd say it's a small price to pay for saving so many people's lives. Though, wolf, I do fully understand where you're coming from. |
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Yea I get where wolf is coming from but I get where the "flattening" strategy comes from.
An interesting though is that assuming that once infected and cured you are "bulletproof" for a while, perhaps people who can PROVE they are should be allowed to roam more freely and do more. It might seem unfair and annoy some (I.e. the cretinous scum who write Guardian columns) but it's merely total common sense. I mean FFS if you are provably incapble of being a carrier or infectable, it seems pretty damned stupid if you can't go for a jog or serve someone an over priced coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. |
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Think they're developing a test to test for antibodies.
What they do with that info, we'll see. Cos you're right. Imagine half the people being allowed out, other half not. Might make it even worse. |
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The ICU simply gives the patient a little more time for the body to heal itself.
The NHS site clearly states that there's no treatment for coronavirus. |
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Well the point about it is it's a curve. "Infected" people will (unless it goes pear shaped) start engaging, as a population, with people who were infected before. THat's why the curve levels off. I read an interesting bit about this by a US expert the other day and he of course used the word "herd immunity" as that was part of it. As that's an actual thing. The fact we can't use such terms out loud ....meh.
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46 people have died today in the uk
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Well thats lower than yesterday
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thankfully despite some of more hysterical claims it seems we are not heading down quite as bad a path as Italy. still going up in the 40s and 50s and would need to be averaging 200 a day this week and 400 next week to even get close to their current total
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Actually the uk rate is 54
Similar to yesterday  |
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46 is England only.
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46 England + 4 Wales + 4 Scotland
Encouraging that the figures are flattening, but the number of cases continues to rise. |
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what time of day are the figures for ? it's quite early still
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9.00 am
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They have a daily cycle such that the figures released cover the same 24 hour period each day, that period not necessarily being midnight to midnight.
There are separate releases from Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland, and England. England is always last, more authorities to collate. |
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The UK seems to having a lot of deaths from the recorded numbers of infections.
Which isn't surprising if they don't routinely test people who show symptoms. |
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Spain and Germany release regional figures during the day as they become available, thus multiple daily updates.
Italy and France release just a single daily update. |
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ahh ok chaps ....
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"thankfully despite some of more hysterical claims it seems we are not heading down quite as bad a path as Italy"
They were on the bare facts logical, hardly hysterical. |
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If you look at the death rate from completed cases, you find the following:
UK 71%, Italy 44%, Spain 40%, France 24%, Germany 26%. Without having details on the testing regimes in these individual countries, it is dangerous to draw conclusions from these percentages. |
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This is the best graphical representation, under the logarithmic tab in the deaths section. It's clearly flattening, before any of last week's measures will have had an effect.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ This of course doesn't take into account population. Something odd would now have to happen now to shift the curve in an upward trajectory. |
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For clarify, it's nothing like Italy.
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Italy 601 for the day..still horrendous figures
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Italian figures released for today.
4,789 new cases, 601 more deaths, total now 6,077, 408 people recovered, 7,432 in total, 50,418 active cases. That's two successive days where the death toll has fallen from the peak of 793 on 21 March, 651 and 601 last two days. Similar trend for new cases, 6,557 on 21 March, 5,560 and 4,789 last two days. Would be nice to think that this trend will continue, but still a hell of a lot of active cases. |
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One of the worst aspects of this virus appears to be the dragged out nature of the way it takes its victims.
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I'd say tentatively, in terms of comparative growth the UK figures are a little better than Italy as of today, but not two-three days ago. Hopefully the trend of the last 2/3 days continues.
If you look at the logarithmic graphs actually the UK looks a little worse than Italy. I used my daughter's protractor. |
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That's the risk of drawing firm conclusions from a tiny and inconsistent data set. I've looked at the graphs and determined UK looks more favourable at this point. However we'll be hoping not to see the type of jump Italy saw from 233 to 366 (nearly 60%).
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cant see russia on this list are they immune ?
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They have reported just 495 cases, 1 death, 472 active cases.
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Italy
743 Big Jump |
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Germany total cases 32K
Total Active cases 31K Number of total recoveries 749 |
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It takes weeks for individuals to come out the other side.
Hence the huge strain placed on the health service. Does, however, appear a tad over cautious and possible that the recovered figures are being under reported. That said, the number of active cases will surely be high profile. German percentage is 749 / 31,991 = 2.34% UK percentage is 135 / 8,077 = 1.67% |
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Big jump today in the German recovered figure, moved by 2,790 to 3,243 in one fell swoop.
Pulled their death rate from 21% to 4.6%. UK death rate is 76%  |
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France
240 upto 1100 |
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they are still at it with the knives and deaths from stabbings - wonder what the overall deaths will be in east landan
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Angoose 24 Mar 20 19:36
Big jump today in the German recovered figure, moved by 2,790 to 3,243 in one fell swoop. Pulled their death rate from 21% to 4.6%. UK death rate is 76% Cases cropping up everywhere in the midlands,not even reported one by my mum and dad a week agonot a peep about it,tests will be midlands places like Birmingham etc if they go big there then it will be the same in the north and big numbers will see over the next week.. |
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Angoose
Big jump today in the German recovered figure, moved by 2,790 to 3,243 in one fell swoop. Pulled their death rate from 21% to 4.6%. UK death rate is 76% ----------------- UK death rate is 76% Where on earth have you got that figure from ? Based on What? |
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Very simple, you just take the completed cases.
422 deaths + 135 recovered = 557 completed cases 422 / 557 = 75.8% |
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On cases recovered..
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These are figures issued by the government, I didn't make them up.
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