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25 Feb 20
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Divide and rule,so if not the Muslims who will be the next we have to hate?
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If the Muslims read this forum they would definitely get the idea they are not wanted here
We needed to control our immigration
If properly qualified Muslims are needed or they bring benefit to us they will still be allowed in
Our Hospitals would have to close without them
If properly qualified Muslims are needed or they bring benefit to us they will still be allowed in
Our Hospitals would have to close without them
Our Hospitals would have to close without them
The hospitals would close if any section of the staff suddenly walked out, but it doesn't work like that. As they leave they'd be replaced by others.
And if others weren't available we'd train out own - just like in the old days before we started to rely on cheap ready trained imported labour.
Hospital staff are ten-a-penny, any shortage of labour is created to serve as an excuse to import workers from abroad.
The hospitals would close if any section of the staff suddenly walked out, but it doesn't work like that. As they leave they'd be replaced by others.
And if others weren't available we'd train out own - just like in the old days before we started to rely on cheap ready trained imported labour.
Hospital staff are ten-a-penny, any shortage of labour is created to serve as an excuse to import workers from abroad.
What about the surgeons Dr C? Certainly not ten-a-penny and we're not going to replace them that easily.
Of course we will Aspro.
We simply allow more to be trained, instead of limiting the numbers we train at the moment.
We simply allow more to be trained, instead of limiting the numbers we train at the moment.
It's far cheaper to rob other countries of their medical staff than train our own.
Whilst I agree with that, if they were to leave at a reasonable pace (which I doubt anyway) it will take a while to train them and in the meantime, many die! This is the scenario we have put ourselves in, unfortunately.
Think of the damage that pinching other countries skilled workers does to their economies. It's immoral.
Yet the flak is always directed at those who oppose the practice.
They'll replace them as quickly as they leave, that's if they are leaving.
But it's government policy to always create the illusion of staff shortages. So the situation will never improve in that respect.
Yet the flak is always directed at those who oppose the practice.
They'll replace them as quickly as they leave, that's if they are leaving.
But it's government policy to always create the illusion of staff shortages. So the situation will never improve in that respect.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/islamophobia-british-muslims-brexit-hate-crimes-boris-johnson-a9356531.html
I think we all know the muslim population is still on the rise, just have a look around
I think we all know the muslim population is still on the rise, just have a look around
If hate crimes are on the increase, it's because they've lowered the threasehold of what is considered a hate crime. That's what this is about.
I certainly have changed my views about how I see people in any way, and I don't expect others have either.
Of course the trouble makers and those who make their living stirring up racial hatred, will work a report like the above for all it's worth. Because that's what they're all about.
I certainly have changed my views about how I see people in any way, and I don't expect others have either.
Of course the trouble makers and those who make their living stirring up racial hatred, will work a report like the above for all it's worth. Because that's what they're all about.
Hate crimes a new classification brought by Tony Blair to use the power of the law to shut down debate, I know who the dangerous one is here.
Lets hope Boris deals with this legislation the same way he is with the bbc
Lets hope Boris deals with this legislation the same way he is with the bbc
Dr Crippen I believe out own trained Doctors have to work for the NHS for a minimum period, as junior
Doctors or at least used to?
You see our own doctors are also vulnerable to poaching from abroad, particularly the USA, where they would earn far more
than they would here?
As a result there is a constant merry go round with the poorest countries who need Doctors the most having the least Doctors.
Doctors will go often go to these countries as a sabbatical to cleanse their souls, for a while
People in this country would soon complain if there were not enough Doctors, so we get them where we can
It is a dog eat dog World
Doctors or at least used to?
You see our own doctors are also vulnerable to poaching from abroad, particularly the USA, where they would earn far more
than they would here?
As a result there is a constant merry go round with the poorest countries who need Doctors the most having the least Doctors.
Doctors will go often go to these countries as a sabbatical to cleanse their souls, for a while
People in this country would soon complain if there were not enough Doctors, so we get them where we can
It is a dog eat dog World
Qualified or Entrepreneurial people are valued by ALL countries, believe me
What about people who qualify for refugee status ?
Priti and co aren't mentioning our legal commitment to them ( which has nothing to do with being in or out of the EU ).
Priti and co aren't mentioning our legal commitment to them ( which has nothing to do with being in or out of the EU ).
But it's bull5hit, just more sob story as they take over town by town.
Literally, there is no such thing as Islamaphobia.
It's an absurd neologism, invented by the Muslim Brotherhood.
A justifiable fear and suspicion of a faith dedicated to world domination, and which harbours violent extremists bent on achieving this through terror, is medicalised as 'phobic,' thereby rendering any objection deranged and irrational when it is a perfectly sane reaction to the threat of conquest and extinction.
Muslims are, at the moment, a minority in the UK, a voluble, demanding and vociferous minority adept at claiming victimhood - this is their modus operandi until they become a majority when they become oppressive and destructive of all other minorities.
It's an absurd neologism, invented by the Muslim Brotherhood.
A justifiable fear and suspicion of a faith dedicated to world domination, and which harbours violent extremists bent on achieving this through terror, is medicalised as 'phobic,' thereby rendering any objection deranged and irrational when it is a perfectly sane reaction to the threat of conquest and extinction.
Muslims are, at the moment, a minority in the UK, a voluble, demanding and vociferous minority adept at claiming victimhood - this is their modus operandi until they become a majority when they become oppressive and destructive of all other minorities.
There is always resistance to immigration, there always has been, there always will be
The resident population fear competition for houses and jobs
We are a society of free speech, there are people who will speak against them, it is their right.
I accept not all Muslims are bombers or sex criminals.
I do not believe Brexit has made things any worse, but they are free to leave.
Brexit was voted for by the majority of people in this country, it was democratic.
Once we are out completely this will die down. Muslims are not going to leave if they comfortable here imo.
I am used to them, I only condemn them when they do wrong, as I would with any other people of this country
The resident population fear competition for houses and jobs
We are a society of free speech, there are people who will speak against them, it is their right.
I accept not all Muslims are bombers or sex criminals.
I do not believe Brexit has made things any worse, but they are free to leave.
Brexit was voted for by the majority of people in this country, it was democratic.
Once we are out completely this will die down. Muslims are not going to leave if they comfortable here imo.
I am used to them, I only condemn them when they do wrong, as I would with any other people of this country
Bullseye Hanx.
I'd be quite happy to see a law bought in which states, any Muslim born over here who is arrested for terrorism charges,
There whole family, parents,Grandparents, siblings/wives,(probably the same) all extradited back to there country of origin.
It makes me laugh that there families say, we never knew what they were up to.
, thats total bollox, they know,but turn a blind eye,
they wouldn't if that law was bought in. Then we can pick and choose which people, muslims included, we allow into our country.
I'd be quite happy to see a law bought in which states, any Muslim born over here who is arrested for terrorism charges,
There whole family, parents,Grandparents, siblings/wives,(probably the same) all extradited back to there country of origin.
It makes me laugh that there families say, we never knew what they were up to.
, thats total bollox, they know,but turn a blind eye, they wouldn't if that law was bought in. Then we can pick and choose which people, muslims included, we allow into our country.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-51633711
Footage of Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi seconds before he blew himself up has been shown to jurors.
The CCTV pictures showed him standing amid crowds of men, women and children 19 seconds before the fatal blast on 22 May 2017.
Sickening, the generation of Islam we have here, his refugee family came over here in the 90s and he was given all the chance he needed here...
DECIDED TO BLOW GIRLS AND OTHERS UP IN THE NAME OF ISLAM...FOR WHAT? THE HATE OF US!
Polish etc none of this...Islamaphobia? Sensiblephobia!
Footage of Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi seconds before he blew himself up has been shown to jurors.
The CCTV pictures showed him standing amid crowds of men, women and children 19 seconds before the fatal blast on 22 May 2017.
Sickening, the generation of Islam we have here, his refugee family came over here in the 90s and he was given all the chance he needed here...
DECIDED TO BLOW GIRLS AND OTHERS UP IN THE NAME OF ISLAM...FOR WHAT? THE HATE OF US!
Polish etc none of this...Islamaphobia? Sensiblephobia!
That independent piece is worthy of the guardian. No mention of actual numbers involved in this 'exodus', nowt but hearsay.
Feb 25, 2020 -- 4:31PM, Hanx wrote:
Literally, there is no such thing as Islamaphobia.It's an absurd neologism, invented by the Muslim Brotherhood. A justifiable fear and suspicion of a faith dedicated to world domination, and which harbours violent extremists bent on achieving this through terror, is medicalised as 'phobic,' thereby rendering any objection deranged and irrational when it is a perfectly sane reaction to the threat of conquest and extinction. Muslims are, at the moment, a minority in the UK, a voluble, demanding and vociferous minority adept at claiming victimhood - this is their modus operandi until they become a majority when they become oppressive and destructive of all other minorities.
Facilitated by the rabid left who they would stone/cut of their heads given half the chance.
A strange paradox indeed
In 50/100 years the gâys, feminists, non binaries and general weirdos will get no sympathy when they are executed medieval style for their proclivities.
People talk about the extreme muslims only being about 1-2%
If you are a muslim and you believe in the Qaran then your ultimate goal is either to turn non believers to Islam or kill them. There is nothing else
There are so many immigrant groups in the UK and none of them have behaved, demanded and accused the locals and others of an equivalent of Islamophobia
Really?
The Jewish religion has although tbf it was more prompted by Mossad and the Israeli Government ably supported by Labour Friends of Israel on the take rather than indigenous Jewish people
Really?
The Jewish religion has although tbf it was more prompted by Mossad and the Israeli Government ably supported by Labour Friends of Israel on the take rather than indigenous Jewish people
May we draw a conclusion as to the denomination, and agenda, of this article's Author ... Shayma Bakht
Some of her other, freelance, articles are ...
The disturbing racial bias of The Greatest Dancer | Television ...
30 Jan 2019 - From Strictly to Big Brother, race issues have blighted TV talent shows before. But is this the most egregious example yet? - Shayma Bakht.
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gal-dem logo
AN ONLINE AND PRINT PUBLICATION COMMITTED TO SHARING PERSPECTIVES FROM WOMEN AND NON-BINARY PEOPLE OF COLOUR
Shay Bakht
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www.cosaraf.org › enabling-young-people-to-realise-their-potential
BA (HONS) ISLAMIC STUDIES, CAMBRIDGE MUSLIM COLLEGE. READ BIO. Shayma Bakht. MA JOURNALISM, CITY UNIVERSITY. READ BIO.
https://www.cosaraf.org/what-we-do/enabling-young-people-to-realise-their-potential/sheikh-family-scholars/
2019 SCHOLARS
Yaqub Muslim Eneborg - Shayma Bakht - Hafsa Zadran
After successfully completing a five year comprehensive study of Islamic theology at a Dar-u- Uloom (Islamic seminary), Hafsa began to teach Islamic sciences such as Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) Hadith (prophetic traditions) and Seerah (biography of the Prophet Muhammad SAW)
The purpose behind studying the masters at the University of Warwick was to gain the skills needed for her to become a reflective professional practitioner in her own field.
As a Muslim educator Hafsa sees it as her responsibility to think educationally about Islam, and to facilitate in bridging the gap between the values/beliefs of the Muslim youth and their practices.
Some of her other, freelance, articles are ...
The disturbing racial bias of The Greatest Dancer | Television ...
30 Jan 2019 - From Strictly to Big Brother, race issues have blighted TV talent shows before. But is this the most egregious example yet? - Shayma Bakht.
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gal-dem logo
AN ONLINE AND PRINT PUBLICATION COMMITTED TO SHARING PERSPECTIVES FROM WOMEN AND NON-BINARY PEOPLE OF COLOUR
Shay Bakht
----------
www.cosaraf.org › enabling-young-people-to-realise-their-potential
BA (HONS) ISLAMIC STUDIES, CAMBRIDGE MUSLIM COLLEGE. READ BIO. Shayma Bakht. MA JOURNALISM, CITY UNIVERSITY. READ BIO.
https://www.cosaraf.org/what-we-do/enabling-young-people-to-realise-their-potential/sheikh-family-scholars/
2019 SCHOLARS
Yaqub Muslim Eneborg - Shayma Bakht - Hafsa Zadran
After successfully completing a five year comprehensive study of Islamic theology at a Dar-u- Uloom (Islamic seminary), Hafsa began to teach Islamic sciences such as Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) Hadith (prophetic traditions) and Seerah (biography of the Prophet Muhammad SAW)
The purpose behind studying the masters at the University of Warwick was to gain the skills needed for her to become a reflective professional practitioner in her own field.
As a Muslim educator Hafsa sees it as her responsibility to think educationally about Islam, and to facilitate in bridging the gap between the values/beliefs of the Muslim youth and their practices.
Reads to me from that, that she might just be an expert in her field.
Muslims that come here probably work harder than our own local population.
They are also very entrepreneurial and will work long hours in small businesses, our guys would never do this.
A lot of the problems we have now has been caused by the West's totally unwarranted invasions of the Middle East since 1990
which has caused the death of a great number of Muslims as well as destabilising the Middle East.
Muslims tend to sympathize with fellow Muslims, also there are quite a few Muslims from the countries we invaded in our society,
because of the destabilization we caused in the Middle East.
As long as they obey our laws we have to live with them. If they don't we lock them up, as we do with everybody in our society.
which seems fair to me.
Both our main parties have let in far too many immigrants anyway. We are only out of the EU because of Nigel Farage.
Hate them as much as people want, we still have to live with them
They are also very entrepreneurial and will work long hours in small businesses, our guys would never do this.
A lot of the problems we have now has been caused by the West's totally unwarranted invasions of the Middle East since 1990
which has caused the death of a great number of Muslims as well as destabilising the Middle East.
Muslims tend to sympathize with fellow Muslims, also there are quite a few Muslims from the countries we invaded in our society,
because of the destabilization we caused in the Middle East.
As long as they obey our laws we have to live with them. If they don't we lock them up, as we do with everybody in our society.
which seems fair to me.
Both our main parties have let in far too many immigrants anyway. We are only out of the EU because of Nigel Farage.
Hate them as much as people want, we still have to live with them
Work hard perhaps, but only one in five working age Muslims actually work.
the racial bias of a dancing show ho ho
but muslims are not a race and neither is the quran
for 'realising potential' - more jobs for our people
but muslims are not a race and neither is the quran
for 'realising potential' - more jobs for our people
how can you HATE a football team - what have they done to you
There will be less Muslims arriving, since we can now control our own immigration
Those who are here are not obliged to leave.
There may be qualified Muslims we need so they will probably still get in.
We are controlling ALL immigration.
Only immigration we need would be sensible.
I don't think Muslims who are settled here will leave
Those who are here are not obliged to leave.
There may be qualified Muslims we need so they will probably still get in.
We are controlling ALL immigration.
Only immigration we need would be sensible.
I don't think Muslims who are settled here will leave
how do you know less will be arriving
the rubber boats loaded with iranians can't be stoppe or there is no desire to stop them
you can also come through the leaking 'relations' fiddle too
the rubber boats loaded with iranians can't be stoppe or there is no desire to stop them
you can also come through the leaking 'relations' fiddle too
seriously - no agenda here - but do you see anyone doing anything about these issues
Feb 29, 2020 -- 10:13PM, impossible123 wrote:
Muslims? Are we referring to those from South Asia the majority of the immigrant population here? If so, I concur with 'moisok'. These Muslims do work hard however, the majority are also non-productive to the country eg paying little or no tax from their own work/shops except in paye professions (not many though). Also, they make up the majority of the claimants some of whom could be using fictitious names. Regards immigration they'd use every trick (usually illegal) to bring in eg spouses/relatives using scam/fake marriages, work-permits, birth certificates, etc. Also, they'd bend every rule in the book to obtain licences eg a driving licence using an imposter; Tfl minicab licence; bogus degrees; etc.This is not Islamophobia but mere facts. And, the industrial scale of sexual abuse of vulnerable young white females in towns up and down the country by Pakistani minicab drivers and their associates cannot be mothballed or forgotten like the Police, Social Services and local politicians who abandoned the calls of help from these vulnerable females and their families.
That post has been reported as racist
impossible123 • February 29, 2020 10:13 PM GMT
Muslims? Are we referring to those from South Asia the majority of the immigrant population here? If so, I concur with 'moisok'. These Muslims do work hard however, the majority are also non-productive to the country eg paying little or no tax from their own work/shops except in paye professions (not many though). Also, they make up the majority of the claimants some of whom could be using fictitious names.
Regards immigration they'd use every trick (usually illegal) to bring in eg spouses/relatives using scam/fake marriages, work-permits, birth certificates, etc. Also, they'd bend every rule in the book to obtain licences eg a driving licence using an imposter; Tfl minicab licence; bogus degrees; etc.
This is not Islamophobia but mere facts. And, the industrial scale of sexual abuse of vulnerable young white females in towns up and down the country by Pakistani minicab drivers and their associates cannot be mothballed or forgotten like the Police, Social Services and local politicians who abandoned the calls of help from these vulnerable females and their families.
Reported ? WTF ? The only mention of 'race' was the reference to the ethnicity of the victims of so-called 'grooming gangs' . This is a well documented fact , not heresay or myth . FACT !
Anyone finding the above post racially offensive must spend all their free time scouring the forum for such offences which in itself is extremely disturbing . What is to be gained by instilling such fear in people as to dissuade them from discussing serious issues for fear of committing perceived 'hate speech' ? @irishone clearly wishes to silence such debate . I wonder why ????????????
Muslims? Are we referring to those from South Asia the majority of the immigrant population here? If so, I concur with 'moisok'. These Muslims do work hard however, the majority are also non-productive to the country eg paying little or no tax from their own work/shops except in paye professions (not many though). Also, they make up the majority of the claimants some of whom could be using fictitious names.
Regards immigration they'd use every trick (usually illegal) to bring in eg spouses/relatives using scam/fake marriages, work-permits, birth certificates, etc. Also, they'd bend every rule in the book to obtain licences eg a driving licence using an imposter; Tfl minicab licence; bogus degrees; etc.
This is not Islamophobia but mere facts. And, the industrial scale of sexual abuse of vulnerable young white females in towns up and down the country by Pakistani minicab drivers and their associates cannot be mothballed or forgotten like the Police, Social Services and local politicians who abandoned the calls of help from these vulnerable females and their families.
Reported ? WTF ? The only mention of 'race' was the reference to the ethnicity of the victims of so-called 'grooming gangs' . This is a well documented fact , not heresay or myth . FACT !
Anyone finding the above post racially offensive must spend all their free time scouring the forum for such offences which in itself is extremely disturbing . What is to be gained by instilling such fear in people as to dissuade them from discussing serious issues for fear of committing perceived 'hate speech' ? @irishone clearly wishes to silence such debate . I wonder why ????????????
Ignore 'irishone'. The poster is hurt and upset because I dissed his beloved horse Presenting Percy - the hyped horse in last year's Gold Cup - who started fav with an absurd prep, and innocuous formline and finished well beaten. This year he's been beaten twice already.
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