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Divide and rule,so if not the Muslims who will be the next we have to hate?

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By:
Knight Commander
When: 25 Feb 20 12:04
Don't let the door..............Grin
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 25 Feb 20 12:22
If the Muslims read this forum they would definitely get the idea they are not wanted here
Laugh
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 25 Feb 20 12:24
We needed to control our immigration

If properly qualified Muslims are needed or they bring benefit to us they will still be allowed in

Our Hospitals would have to close without them
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Feb 20 12:59
Our Hospitals would have to close without them

The hospitals would close if any section of the staff suddenly walked out, but it doesn't work like that. As they leave they'd be replaced by others.
And if others weren't available we'd train out own - just like in the old days before we started to rely on cheap ready trained imported labour.

Hospital staff are ten-a-penny, any shortage of labour is created to serve as an excuse to import workers from abroad.
By:
Aspro
When: 25 Feb 20 13:03
What about the surgeons Dr C? Certainly not ten-a-penny and we're not going to replace them that easily.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Feb 20 13:05
Of course we will Aspro.

We simply allow more to be trained, instead of limiting the numbers we train at the moment.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Feb 20 13:07
It's far cheaper to rob other countries of their medical staff than train our own.
By:
Aspro
When: 25 Feb 20 13:10
Whilst I agree with that, if they were to leave at a reasonable pace (which I doubt anyway) it will take a while to train them and in the meantime, many die! This is the scenario we have put ourselves in, unfortunately.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Feb 20 13:16
Think of the damage that pinching other countries skilled workers does to their economies. It's immoral.
Yet the flak is always directed at those who oppose the practice. 


They'll replace them as quickly as they leave, that's if they are leaving.

But it's government policy to always create the illusion of staff shortages. So the situation will never improve in that respect.
By:
macarony
When: 25 Feb 20 13:19
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/islamophobia-british-muslims-brexit-hate-crimes-boris-johnson-a9356531.html

I think we all know the muslim population is still on the rise, just have a look around
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Feb 20 13:27
If hate crimes are on the increase, it's because they've lowered the threasehold of what is considered a hate crime. That's what this is about.

I certainly have changed my views about how I see people in any way, and I don't expect others have either.

Of course the trouble makers and those who make their living stirring up racial hatred, will work a report like the above for all it's worth. Because that's what they're all about.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 25 Feb 20 13:31
Was it the bacon sarnies?
By:
macarony
When: 25 Feb 20 13:39
Hate crimes a new classification brought by Tony Blair to use the power of the law to shut down debate, I know who the dangerous one is here.
Lets hope Boris deals with this legislation the same way he is with the bbc
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 25 Feb 20 13:45
Dr Crippen I believe out own trained Doctors have to work for the NHS for a minimum period, as junior

Doctors or at least used to?

You see our own doctors are also vulnerable to poaching from abroad, particularly the USA, where they would earn far more

than they would here?

As a result there is a constant merry go round with the poorest countries who need Doctors the most having the least Doctors.

Doctors will go often go to these countries as a sabbatical to cleanse their souls, for a while


People in this country would soon complain if there were not enough Doctors, so we get them where we can

It is a dog eat dog World
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 25 Feb 20 13:46
Qualified or Entrepreneurial people are valued by ALL countries, believe me
By:
salmon spray
When: 25 Feb 20 14:26
What about people who qualify for refugee status ?
Priti and co aren't mentioning our legal commitment to them ( which has nothing to do with being in or out of the EU ).
By:
doridoru
When: 25 Feb 20 14:55
ABS FANTASTIC NEWS, BREXIT LOVE IT!!!
By:
doridoru
When: 25 Feb 20 15:27
But it's bull5hit, just more sob story as they take over town by town.
By:
Hanx
When: 25 Feb 20 16:31
Literally, there is no such thing as Islamaphobia.

It's an absurd neologism, invented by the Muslim Brotherhood.

A justifiable fear and suspicion of a faith dedicated to world domination, and which harbours violent extremists bent on achieving this through terror, is medicalised as 'phobic,' thereby rendering any objection deranged and irrational when it is a perfectly sane reaction to the threat of conquest and extinction.

Muslims are, at the moment, a minority in the UK, a voluble, demanding and vociferous minority adept at claiming victimhood - this is their modus operandi until they become a majority when they become oppressive and destructive of all other minorities.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 25 Feb 20 16:57
Well said Hanx.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 25 Feb 20 17:07
There is always resistance to immigration, there always has been, there always will be

The resident population fear competition for houses and jobs


We are a society of free speech, there are people who will speak against them, it is their right.

I accept not all Muslims are bombers or sex criminals.

I do not believe Brexit has made things any worse, but they are free to leave.


Brexit was voted for by the majority of people in this country, it was democratic.

Once we are out completely this will die down. Muslims are not going to leave if they comfortable here imo.

I am used to them, I only condemn them when they do wrong, as I would with any other people of this country
By:
dambuster
When: 25 Feb 20 17:21
Bullseye Hanx.
I'd be quite happy to see a law bought in which states, any Muslim born over here who is arrested for terrorism charges,
There whole family, parents,Grandparents,  siblings/wives,(probably the same)  all extradited back to there country of origin.
It makes me laugh that there families say, we never knew what they were up to.Surprised, thats total bollox, they know,but turn a blind eye,
they wouldn't if that law was bought in. Then we can pick and choose which people, muslims included, we allow into our country.
By:
doridoru
When: 25 Feb 20 17:22
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-51633711

Footage of Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi seconds before he blew himself up has been shown to jurors.

The CCTV pictures showed him standing amid crowds of men, women and children 19 seconds before the fatal blast on 22 May 2017.

Sickening, the generation of Islam we have here, his refugee family came over here in the 90s and he was given all the chance he needed here...

DECIDED TO BLOW GIRLS AND OTHERS UP IN THE NAME OF ISLAM...FOR WHAT? THE HATE OF US!

Polish etc none of this...Islamaphobia? Sensiblephobia!
By:
saddo
When: 25 Feb 20 19:46
That independent piece is worthy of the guardian. No mention of actual numbers involved in this 'exodus', nowt but hearsay.
By:
jucel69
When: 25 Feb 20 20:42

Feb 25, 2020 -- 4:31PM, Hanx wrote:


Literally, there is no such thing as Islamaphobia.It's an absurd neologism, invented by the Muslim Brotherhood. A justifiable fear and suspicion of a faith dedicated to world domination, and which harbours violent extremists bent on achieving this through terror, is medicalised as 'phobic,' thereby rendering any objection deranged and irrational when it is a perfectly sane reaction to the threat of conquest and extinction. Muslims are, at the moment, a minority in the UK, a voluble, demanding and vociferous minority adept at claiming victimhood - this is their modus operandi until they become a majority when they become oppressive and destructive of all other minorities.


Facilitated by the rabid left who they would stone/cut of their heads given half the chance.
A strange paradox indeed
In 50/100 years the gâys, feminists, non binaries and general weirdos will get no sympathy when they are executed medieval style for their proclivities.
People talk about the extreme muslims only being about 1-2%
If you are a muslim and you believe in the Qaran then your ultimate goal is either to turn non believers to Islam or kill them. There is nothing else

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 26 Feb 20 16:50
There are so many immigrant groups in the UK and none of them have behaved, demanded and accused the locals and others of an equivalent of Islamophobia

Really?

The Jewish religion has although tbf it was more prompted  by Mossad and the Israeli Government ably supported by Labour Friends of Israel on the take rather than indigenous Jewish people
By:
onlooker
When: 26 Feb 20 20:35
May we draw a conclusion as to the denomination, and agenda,  of this article's Author ... Shayma Bakht

Some of her other, freelance, articles are ...

The disturbing racial bias of The Greatest Dancer | Television ...

30 Jan 2019 - From Strictly to Big Brother, race issues have blighted TV talent shows before. But is this the most egregious example yet? - Shayma Bakht.

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www.cosaraf.org › enabling-young-people-to-realise-their-potential

BA (HONS) ISLAMIC STUDIES, CAMBRIDGE MUSLIM COLLEGE. READ BIO. Shayma Bakht. MA JOURNALISM, CITY UNIVERSITY. READ BIO.

https://www.cosaraf.org/what-we-do/enabling-young-people-to-realise-their-potential/sheikh-family-scholars/

2019 SCHOLARS

Yaqub Muslim Eneborg  -  Shayma Bakht  -  Hafsa Zadran

After successfully completing a five year comprehensive study of Islamic theology at a Dar-u- Uloom (Islamic seminary), Hafsa began to teach Islamic sciences such as Fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) Hadith (prophetic traditions) and Seerah (biography of the Prophet Muhammad SAW)

The purpose behind studying the masters at the University of Warwick was to gain the skills needed for her to become a reflective professional practitioner in her own field.
As a Muslim educator Hafsa sees it as her responsibility to think educationally about Islam, and to facilitate in bridging the gap between the values/beliefs of the Muslim youth and their practices.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 26 Feb 20 20:41
Reads to me from that, that she might just be an expert in her field.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 26 Feb 20 20:53
Muslims that come here probably work harder than our own local population.

They are also very entrepreneurial and will work long hours in small businesses, our guys would never do this.

A lot of the problems we have now has been caused by the West's totally unwarranted invasions of the Middle East since 1990

which has caused the death of a great number of Muslims as well as destabilising the Middle East.

Muslims tend to sympathize with fellow Muslims, also there are quite a few Muslims from the countries we invaded in our society,

because of the destabilization we caused in the Middle East.

As long as they obey our laws we have to live with them. If they don't we lock them up, as we do with everybody in our society.

which seems fair to me.

Both our main parties have let in far too many immigrants anyway. We are only out of the EU because of Nigel Farage.

Hate them as much as people want, we still have to live with them
By:
saddo
When: 26 Feb 20 20:59
Work hard perhaps, but only one in five working age Muslims actually work.
By:
moisok
When: 26 Feb 20 21:04
all part of expanding Labour's base vote!!!
By:
moisok
When: 26 Feb 20 21:06
the racial bias of a dancing show ho ho

but muslims are not a race and neither is the quran

for 'realising potential'   - more jobs for our people
By:
moisok
When: 26 Feb 20 21:06
real v city  0    0   now what do I do - cash out?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 26 Feb 20 21:18
oh dear....Real have scored
By:
casemoney
When: 26 Feb 20 21:21
Grin
By:
casemoney
When: 26 Feb 20 21:28
The smile was for the thread not the goal .
By:
moisok
When: 26 Feb 20 22:10
how can you HATE a football team - what have they done to you
By:
akabula
When: 26 Feb 20 22:16
Can we crowdfund for the fares?
By:
MALAY
When: 29 Feb 20 18:19
what has brexit go to do with muslims ?
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