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Due to social media errors of judgement.

What did he write???
Pause • Switch to Standard View Sacked- Newsreader Alastair Stewart
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Report postmannick • January 29, 2020 6:24 PM GMT
why the feck does anyone go on these social media sites beats me
Report 1st time poster • January 29, 2020 6:25 PM GMT
RACIST
CAMPAIGNED TO STOP A BUISNESS EXPANDING 5 MILES FROM HIS HOME,   NIMBY
3 YEAR DRIVING BAN FOR CRASHING HIS CAR WHILST 3 TIMES OFVER THE LEGAL LIMLIT

but allegedly he,s been hard done by, whilst reporting the news he,s probably called those far less educated than himself fera, lscum,etc,etc for doing similar
Report Cardinal Scott • January 29, 2020 6:28 PM GMT
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Report tobermory • January 29, 2020 6:29 PM GMT
Twitter users are now circulating a tweet which Alastair reportedly sent on 13 January 2020.

It quotes Shakespeare and was sent to a Twitter user, who happens to be black. ‘“But man, proud man, Dress’d in a little brief authority, Most ignorant of what he’s most assur’d – His glassy essence – like an angry ape”,’ the tweet read.

The Twitter user reposted the tweet and commented: ‘Just an @itv newsreader referring to me as an ape with the cover of Shakespeare.
Report MC Roller • January 29, 2020 6:31 PM GMT
The misjudgement is going on twitter in the first place. Do something wrong, and there are loads just waiting to be offended, and then your career is over, no second chances. Even some killers get a second chance, but not for social media mistakes. The World is fcking mad.
Report A_T • January 29, 2020 6:35 PM GMT
good riddance - always thought there was a nasty side to him
Report 1st time poster • January 29, 2020 6:37 PM GMT
what about driving a car drunk as a fooking skunk putting peoples lives at risk,for judgement
Report 1st time poster • January 29, 2020 6:40 PM GMT
having said that a dangerous pill popping  driver high as kite endangering the live of a child was awarded tv celeb of the year last night
Report HGS • January 29, 2020 6:42 PM GMT
1st time poster

3 YEAR DRIVING BAN FOR CRASHING HIS CAR WHILST 3 TIMES OVER THE LEGAL LIMIT

Did we see this on Police Camera Action??
Report impossible123 • January 29, 2020 6:42 PM GMT
Sometimes one has to make a judgement on the event in question and not history eg business concerned could involved noise and pollution eg a waste dump; incinerator; a chicken factory; etc.

But, I cannot fault his professionalism in the media.
Report Dr Crippen • January 29, 2020 7:00 PM GMT
What's so wrong with comparing someone with an angry ape?
Report peckerdunne • January 29, 2020 7:13 PM GMT
Did Shakespeare have opinions on black people.
Report UBLE/REGY • January 29, 2020 7:25 PM GMT
I don't think Shakespeare ever saw any black people

His passage was a comment on human nature???????

The play is set in Vienna???

If he had said this to a white person I doubt there would be a problem

But because he said it to a black person?????

it has seen as a racist comment

I think???
Report Dr Crippen • January 29, 2020 7:28 PM GMT
Did Shakespeare have opinions on black people.

What are you suggesting peckerdunne?
Report Cardinal Scott • January 29, 2020 7:37 PM GMT

Jan 29, 2020 -- 7:13PM, peckerdunne wrote:


Did Shakespeare have opinions on black people.


Titus Andronicus

"Is Black So Base A Hue?"

Report A_T • January 29, 2020 8:02 PM GMT
rumoured to be co-hosting a new chat show with Ron Atkinson
Report Dr Crippen • January 29, 2020 8:24 PM GMT
That would make a refreshing change.
Report MC Roller • January 29, 2020 8:34 PM GMT
If he wanted to throw something over trump, he would have been rewarded with a new deal to stop cnn with their big bucks offer.
Report detraveller • January 29, 2020 9:04 PM GMT
Things are getting out of hand. Shakespeare should be banned, I don't think this is the first time some of his words have finally been exposed as racist.
Report saddo • January 29, 2020 9:13 PM GMT
Jon Snow got away with his racist gaffe without much bother.
Report dave1357 • January 29, 2020 9:25 PM GMT

Jan 29, 2020 -- 7:13PM, peckerdunne wrote:


Did Shakespeare have opinions on black people.


An old black ram is tupping your white ewe

Othello

Report UBLE/REGY • January 29, 2020 9:40 PM GMT
Things are getting out of hand. Shakespeare should be banned, I don't think this is the first time some of his words have finally been exposed as racist. detraveller

LaughLaugh
Report lfc1971 • January 29, 2020 9:48 PM GMT
misunderstood, shouldn't have lost his job
don't get into conversations at work with different people if at all possible
Report lfc1971 • January 29, 2020 10:05 PM GMT
Most of you don't understand that Shakespeare anyway do you?, the average man in the street hasn't a clue
Fact! not snobbery
Report peckerdunne • January 29, 2020 10:08 PM GMT
It's a leap of faith to go from quoting Shakespeare to calling someone an ape and then further understanding that as racism unless you already associate one with the other.
Report Coachbuster • January 29, 2020 10:10 PM GMT
Uble has hit the head on the nail   ...it's who he said it to
Report Cider • January 29, 2020 10:14 PM GMT
.https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10850356/itv-alastair-stewart-sacked-ape-twitter/

Yeah this happened, welcome to woke Britain 2020. One could say we've jumped the great white shark. Oops!
Report detraveller • January 29, 2020 10:19 PM GMT
How has the newsreader himself responded?
Report Cider • January 29, 2020 10:21 PM GMT
With his customary dignity.
Report saddo • January 29, 2020 10:23 PM GMT
"They have made worm's meat of me"
Report detraveller • January 29, 2020 10:26 PM GMT
That's the problem. I don't know the man, and can very well imagine a 67 year old man not wanting to make a fuss, but if he doesn't want to stand up for himself and goes out with 'It was an error in judgement' then he is leaving the rest of us to deal with decades of this nonsense. If a journalist surrenders to this, what hope have the common folk got? Same goes for Jon Snow. Why do these guys apologize????
Report Cider • January 29, 2020 10:30 PM GMT
He was cornered as these internal policies now simply defer to the individual/complainant's interpretation. 'Leering' was recently added at my workplace. So if a female accuses you of leering, your career could be toast.
Report mad mad moon • January 29, 2020 10:38 PM GMT
So ITV have rewarded one of their longest serving newsreaders with the sack , after one twitter user
picked out one word from a Shakespeare quote.
Well done ITV. The Beeb will be proud of you.
Report PorcupineorPineapple • January 29, 2020 10:48 PM GMT
Social media. Getting people sacked since 2010.
Report doridoru • January 30, 2020 9:04 AM GMT
The black twitter complainer is a total anti white racist, what A FKIN SUPRISE!
Report pumphol. • January 30, 2020 9:46 AM GMT
He was host on a quiz show I did  back in the day called King Of The Castle, think there were ten of us he only spoke to the winner afterwards & made no effort to speak to anyone else on the show which I thought was pretty poor & he came over very aloof.
Report mymumsfinethankyou • January 30, 2020 10:04 AM GMT
then after being convicet of drink driving,, he was the voice explaining other drink drivers on the motorway cops show catching drink drivers live,,
Report detraveller • January 30, 2020 10:14 AM GMT

Jan 29, 2020 -- 10:30PM, Cider wrote:


He was cornered as these internal policies now simply defer to the individual/complainant's interpretation. 'Leering' was recently added at my workplace. So if a female accuses you of leering, your career could be toast.


I can understand why he was fired. What I cannot understand is why he apologized? He had already lost his job, so what was there to lose? Was he afraid his pension, if he has one, might go too? He can't be a simpleton after spending so many years in this field. Why did he let them fk him? And afterwards apologized for allowing himself to get fkd?

Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 10:26 AM GMT
Cases like these trivialise the word racist to the extent that it will be meaningless soon.

The word used to conjure up a nasty person who hates others purely for what they are.
Now it's just someone who goes a little too far taking the pee, or another who makes a slip of the tongue.
Or simply gets misunderstood like the newscaster here.
People who take offence in these circumstances usually have an agenda based on their own hatred of others.
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 10:56 AM GMT
even those defending him,his friends,workmates are giving the game away by saying he was trying to be clever,to clever by half,etc,which suggests he knew what he was posting,who to,and why,
it wasn't a random quote to a random poster,if his friends/ workmates are to be believed he knew the colour,race of the person he was sending the quote to,
I keep repeating this on all these racist thread,s ,they are always defending middle class,educated people who say these type of things, but when someone of an estate say dsimilar those supposedly in the no,say the fact these words ,phrases are there on the tip of their tongue,touch of a finger, ensconced in their mind is whaty makes them racist ,as well as the actual phrase
Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 11:12 AM GMT
Just because we don't like certain people doesn't mean we wish them any harm.

And because we shun them doesn't mean we don't like them either.

Two people apply for a job, you think if I employ that one I'll have to guard every word I utter while he's here. And he could take me to court if I sack him.
While if I employ the other I can speak freely, with no problems if I have to let him go.

Which one would you employ?
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 11:36 AM GMT
what if the other ones a
snowflake
gay
trans
vegan
feminist
christian
trade unionist
etc.etc
or are you just judgemental by colour
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 11:43 AM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 10:56AM, 1st time poster wrote:


even those defending him,his friends,workmates are giving the game away by saying he was trying to be clever,to clever by half,etc,which suggests he knew what he was posting,who to,and why,it wasn't a random quote to a random poster,if his friends/ workmates are to be believed he knew the colour,race of the person he was sending the quote to,I keep repeating this on all these racist thread,s ,they are always defending middle class,educated people who say these type of things, but when someone of an estate say dsimilar those supposedly in the no,say the fact these words ,phrases are there on the tip of their tongue,touch of a finger, ensconced in their mind is whaty makes them racist ,as well as the actual phrase


He's allowed to include Shakespeare's words in a quote to respond to someone who happens to be white, but not black. So a black person is allowed to use the same quote in response to a black person. Ergo, Stewart is guilty in the world of woke purely because of the colour of his skin. Ergo white people are expected to modify their language depending upon the race of the person they are communicating with. I would call that racist.

Report Cider • January 30, 2020 11:47 AM GMT
Not just guilty of course, but shamed and deleted.
Report dave1357 • January 30, 2020 11:48 AM GMT
Cider. you don't have the right to tell other people what they should be offended by, just the right to ignore their faux offence, which is what Stewart should have done.
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 11:53 AM GMT
Causing people to feel offended is in itself not a crime. Or at least it dam well shouldn't be. How an earth can anyone be in control of how another person interprets or misinterprets something. News flash, opportunist people will weaponise that power given half a chance.
Report lfc1971 • January 30, 2020 11:55 AM GMT
difficult to ignore if you might lose your job of course.

As dr. Crippen says if you own your own business be very careful who you hire, its not worth taking the chance if its a pillock like this guy who may be so stupid his misunderstanding could cost you your job, or more again
Report lfc1971 • January 30, 2020 11:56 AM GMT
And in work be very careful who you associate with, socially also

not worth the risk, a very high percentage of people cant be trusted
Report doridoru • January 30, 2020 11:57 AM GMT
https://twitter.com/nikkiloumaz/status/1222768971277111296

Take a look at the twitter feed of the accuser, an anti white disgrace who will end up in trouble at all, piece of 5hit!
Report doridoru • January 30, 2020 11:57 AM GMT
Alistair Stewart quotes Shakespeare and ITV removes him.
Terry Christian wishes death on people who voted to leave and ITV invites him on to GMTV to air his views
Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 12:01 PM GMT
or are you just judgemental by colour

I never mentioned colour 1tp, you did.

Why did you do that?
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 12:02 PM GMT
That's it in a nutshell, the woke, student union, virtue signalling, libertarian ideologues are forcing people to stay in their 'safe' bubble. Why communicate with a black person where he could potentially deliberately twist a word out of place and cost me my job. It's not analogous with their egalitarian outcome agenda though!
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 12:05 PM GMT
so you must be guarded about every word you speak to everyone,so you wont have a problem will you,

rav singh defending him on itv says she often calls her son a little monkey,dont believe it

but that's not the point what would singh say if I,danny baker or kids in the playground called her son a little monkey
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 12:07 PM GMT
That's the answer to this nonsense, only engage with people who are the 'same' as you. Hoorah!
Report lfc1971 • January 30, 2020 12:08 PM GMT
Then again you might lose your job, if it comes to redundancies . Quotas have to be maintained, individual managers might be wary of paying off someone from an ethnic minority for fear of a charge of racism, might be a motive even subconscious to pay of the white British worker
Less possible problems, easier just not to take that chance
a very real chance in todays world
Report dambuster • January 30, 2020 12:09 PM GMT
Racebaiters everywhere nowadays
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 12:12 PM GMT
Not just race unfortunately, every kind of perceived minority, and they will come up with new classes of minority, don't worry!
Report dambuster • January 30, 2020 12:13 PM GMT
lfc1971, a friend of mine would never employ non white people for fear of having to get rid of them if they wasn't up to the job.
and he's wife who helps run the company is mixed race, it was her idea.
Report lfc1971 • January 30, 2020 12:13 PM GMT
A little monkey was always a term of affection.

Its a lovely expression of love and joy.
Report lfc1971 • January 30, 2020 12:15 PM GMT
I can easilt believe that dambuster, this is the consequences that can happen.

Its a sadness in a way, but it is simply not worth taking the risk.
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 12:17 PM GMT
The company I work for was trumpeting being included in this the other day. .https://www.bloomberg.com/impact/products/gender-equality-index/
Oh what a glorious thing! The Bloomberg Gender-Equality Index (GEI) tracks the performance of the public companies most committed to advancing women globally.
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 12:18 PM GMT
all claiming to be men of the world,run businesses etc on here but if anyone think a male white man is not prone to using whatever he has to try and save his job,put a claim in,etc,etc really hasn't come up from under the duvet for at east 25 years, without good reason its virtually impossible to sack anyone of any gender,colour,faith these days ,certainly in big companies, stewart,mcpartland,driving cars drunk as skunks,high as kites rather proves the point,plus the 2 loons on itv willourby/schofield on their yearly ritual turning up for work bragging about been drunk as a coooont,when its instant dismissal or treatment for drink rtelated problems in most modern companies
Report lfc1971 • January 30, 2020 12:18 PM GMT
once the accusation is made, you,re fked
Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 12:30 PM GMT
I just wrote out a post.

I decided not to post it because it could have been used to secure a ban against me.

There was nothing abusive in it, it was merely factual comment.

But in the hysterical climate we live in you can never be sure.
Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 12:32 PM GMT
Integration in this climate is impossible.
Report dambuster • January 30, 2020 12:53 PM GMT
You cannot force integration onto people of different cultures and colour, it usually leads to war.
Report detraveller • January 30, 2020 12:56 PM GMT
No one finds it odd that a journalist with four decades of journalism experience didn't stand up to something as ridiculous as this? I ask again, why apologize, when you have every resource in the world that you need to stand up to it? He's a pussey as far as I see it.
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 1:05 PM GMT
As said, he will very likely be seen to have broken the rules/conduct code when taken literally. Perhaps he wants to try and stay above it all.
Report pumphol. • January 30, 2020 1:11 PM GMT
IMO he was most likely ask to resign or face the sack.
Report dave1357 • January 30, 2020 1:18 PM GMT
At his age there isn't any difference. He obv couldn't be ar5ed as he would have won any legal action over dismissal.
Report dave1357 • January 30, 2020 1:21 PM GMT
The court case would have been stunningly entertaining as I imagine that it would involve a great deal of Shakespeare and a judge asking obviously biased questions.
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 1:27 PM GMT
as in the drink driving,tyrying to stop local business growing,maybe he,s not as nice as his friends say he is and doesn't want people gpoing over his past like they do with mp,s
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 1:29 PM GMT
.https://twitter.com/Herewar66545077/status/1222870099926929418/photo/1
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
given the time if they feel the need, people can always hide behind something to excuse what they've posted,as the great line in Shawshank says we,re all innocent in here, only stewart no,s what he meant and the fact he resigned might mean it meant more than his friends thought it did
Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 1:34 PM GMT
From doridorus's link, anyone seen the profile of his accuser, the bloke who made the complaint?

Look what he gets away with and little said.

I wonder what 1tp has got to say about him?
Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 1:36 PM GMT
It's all one-way traffic when it comes to censoring people over comments.
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 1:44 PM GMT
I,m not arguing or agreeing one way or another,what I,m saying is would mr stewart/mizz singh be on the 6 o clock news defending bobby smith from the local council estate if he,d posted the same or similar,did stewart/singh defend danny baker for posting a chimp after megan give birth,baker swore he wasn't a racist,some of my best friends are black,blah,blah
like i said we,re all innocent when it suits
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 1:49 PM GMT
I repeat it again
the common rule of thumb from so called experts is that in the middle of a twitter conversation,chat,argument etc, you can pull a racist phrase out it reveals what your true thoughts,thinking are/is
but when so called well educated people who should no better say these things its not potraying their inner thinking,
Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 1:51 PM GMT
Again, not one word of condemnation about the presenter's accuser who seems to have gone a lot further than Stewart with long list of dubious posts.
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 1:52 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 1:49PM, 1st time poster wrote:


I repeat it againthe common rule of thumb from so called experts is that in the middle of a twitter conversation,chat,argument etc, you can pull a racist phrase out it reveals what your true thoughts,thinking are/isbut when so called well educated people who should no better say these things its not potraying their inner thinking,


Only one person in the 'spat' was seeing colour. Who's the racist then.

Report Cider • January 30, 2020 1:54 PM GMT
Pretty clear our easily offended Twitter friend views life through the prism of others' skin colour.
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
how do you no only one fella was seeing colour
so you believe danny bakers chimp argument in his case that he posted that chimp photo without any connection tyo megan merkels race,even though he hadn't posted it for any of Williams 3 kids
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 2:01 PM GMT
What's this got to do with Danny Baker?

Please quote me anything from AS that leveled somebody's skin colour against them.
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 2:03 PM GMT
if our friend of the council estate bobby smith had posted the chimp photo would stewart/singh.and baker be on 6 o clock news saying it wasn't meant to be racist
those Spanish grand prix fans blacked up with stockings over their faces,said thery wernt racist
truedeaux said he wasn't been racist
we,re all innocent in here
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 2:04 PM GMT
I'll take that as a no, you can't then.
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 2:07 PM GMT
LOL
SO UNLESS you mention someones skin colour you cant be racist,  LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 2:12 PM GMT
Someone quoted Shawshank earlier, obtuse comes to mind.
The Twitter friend IS a racist, I've quoted the evidence. It's up to you to demonstrate that AS is (if that is your opinion). I've a hunch that's gonna be a long wait.
Report Dr Crippen • January 30, 2020 2:13 PM GMT
There are the little faces - a sure sign the battle is lost.
Report detraveller • January 30, 2020 2:15 PM GMT
The guy is a cuck and got played by a smart black dude. If this is how journalists are going to surrender to PC then there is no hope and we are just wasting our time whining about it.

You can debate all you want about how bad the other poster is. The fact that AS couldn't stand up to a guy who has a history of directly racist posts on the same platform tells you all you need to know about him. Why waste your time defending such a man? He's rubberstamped the normalcy of such behavior by apologizing.
Report 1st time poster • January 30, 2020 2:17 PM GMT
I like you  have no idea if stewart is racist ,and I care even less,what I care about is public figure after public figure week in week out ,come out with these comments but demand people dont label them racist,but when joe public off a council estate says similar things people like stewart ,singh, etc say these people are revealing what they really think
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 2:22 PM GMT
Actually it's reasonable enough to aplogise if you caused genuine unintended offence. In the same way as you would apologise for bumping into someone on the street. Even if the other person wasn't looking were they were going. That used to be known as common decency. I feel like you're overblowing that element of the story, datraveller. Sometimes people get the better of you, even when you're in the right. There's no point in crying about it. This is about more than AS though, it's evidence of the infestation of woke culture and the damage it can lead to.
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 2:25 PM GMT
It's pretty much nailed here.
.https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/01/30/the-shameful-attack-on-alastair-stewart/
Report detraveller • January 30, 2020 2:29 PM GMT
I am not denying the new culture and the damage it will cause. What I am saying is that people who are in the position to stand up to it are surrendering, so what hope have we got?

It wasn't a 'Sorry' that you'd say when you bump into someone. AS called it an error of judgement. He shouldn't have done that. At best, he should have just said I am sorry that my comments were misunderstood. That's all. There was no error involved assuming he was indeed using the Shakespeare reference and not just hiding behind it.
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 2:32 PM GMT
The error of judgement was assuming the person he was engaging with wasn't a racist. As I said before, a literal interpretation of the rules means AS likely break them.
Report Cider • January 30, 2020 2:45 PM GMT
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIJPUX6SYu4

Enjoy. See 57.23 especially.
Report detraveller • January 30, 2020 2:52 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 2:32PM, Cider wrote:


The error of judgement was assuming the person he was engaging with wasn't a racist. As I said before, a literal interpretation of the rules means AS likely break them.


Fully agree with you. But he could come out any time now and point out the hypocrisy. He has, as i said earlier, absolutely nothing to lose. If he doesn't then he is part of the PC brigade as far as I see it. He isn't a simpleton, 40 years in the industry he knows fully well how to report according to current agendas.

Report Cider • January 30, 2020 2:55 PM GMT
It's up to his peers, viewers and fair minded people to make the case in my view.
Report Injera • January 30, 2020 5:39 PM GMT
Don’t know if this has been said on here but AS once referred to a white person as an ape.
Report moisok • January 30, 2020 5:44 PM GMT
so what if he was performing like one and he said it - bit deal
Report moisok • January 30, 2020 5:46 PM GMT
we opened pandora's box and there is a lot more of this to come
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