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Report lovegod January 25, 2020 10:26 AM GMT
Depends what you're stabbing them with?
Report Dr Crippen January 25, 2020 10:39 AM GMT
Speaking of the Afghan community, he continued: "A lot of the kids here are coming from war zones and we have done nothing at all once they came here to help them find a way into society and to deal with the traumas that they've been through.''

Oh, so it's our fault?
How did I know that was coming?

The only thing that's our fault, is not sending back from where they came from when we catch them.
Report doridoru January 25, 2020 10:40 AM GMT
That's why its still safe here in North Yorkshire as low minority, these knifings are nearly all from the black/refugee community as Trevor Phillips said on Question Time, its not racist..its FACTS...
Report detraveller January 25, 2020 11:04 AM GMT

Jan 25, 2020 -- 10:39AM, Dr Crippen wrote:


Speaking of the Afghan community, he continued: "A lot of the kids here are coming from war zones and we have done nothing at all once they came here to help them find a way into society and to deal with the traumas that they've been through.''Oh, so it's our fault?How did I know that was coming?The only thing that's our fault, is not sending back from where they came from when we catch them.


One refugee told me quite bluntly, you send soldiers to our countries but when we come here unarmed you start to whine. It hasn't been an even war that's for sure. But Europe has itself to blame. Not because we didn't help them integrate, but because we let them in, let them break our laws and continue to let them get away with it. The Afghans didn't open your borders or cut down the police force, it was the guys you just voted in.

Report detraveller January 25, 2020 11:06 AM GMT
Also I am guessing its not the first time the british govt is supporting minorities to control the larger population. From what little I know of history, the brits did this often overseas.
Report saddo January 25, 2020 11:12 AM GMT
detraveller 25 Jan 20 11:04 

Europe has itself to blame. Not because we didn't help them integrate, but because we let them in, let them break our laws and continue to let them get away with it. The Afghans didn't open your borders or cut down the police force, it was the guys you just voted in.
...............



Don't blame Europe for the actions of Mutty Merkel, no one else wanted them in, they were virtue shamed into it.
Report Poppydog. January 25, 2020 11:20 AM GMT
Buckwheats!
Report Poppydog. January 25, 2020 11:21 AM GMT
That's referring to the film 'Things To Do In Denver When You're Dead'
Report Dr Crippen January 25, 2020 11:23 AM GMT
I think the plan was to go softly with these types and hope that they'd integrate.
Of course human nature doesn't work like that, and reflects the kind of idiots that pass for MPs in this country.
This going softly with offenders is a cancer that's been kindled in the UK for decades, it doesn't work and it never will.

Can't correct children, can't punish criminals, human rights before justice.
The police are a laughing stock.

And I reckon the worst is yet to come.
Report Whisperingdeath January 25, 2020 11:26 AM GMT
Our society is breaking down. I am not wanting to defend low life scum bags so I won't but they are the tip of the problem. If anyone has been to East London recently they can tell you it smells of piss. People openly come out of a tube station and urinate where they want. It is disgusting. People throw rubbish in the street. People park wherever they want without consideration to others. The rich are getting richer by taking everything they can and leave little for the rest.

We need Police on our streets and low level crime to stop being a way of life for too many.
Report detraveller January 25, 2020 11:28 AM GMT

Jan 25, 2020 -- 11:12AM, saddo wrote:


detraveller 25 Jan 20 11:04  Europe has itself to blame. Not because we didn't help them integrate, but because we let them in, let them break our laws and continue to let them get away with it. The Afghans didn't open your borders or cut down the police force, it was the guys you just voted in................Don't blame Europe for the actions of Mutty Merkel, no one else wanted them in, they were virtue shamed into it.


Exactly. And people keep voting the same people in while blaming the afghans. And i've never understood why they expect the people of a country they are at war with to live peacefully with them.

Report saddo January 25, 2020 11:34 AM GMT
Merkel  is not 'Europe', she single-handedly decided to ruin things for all of us. If any voting population is to blame, it is yours.
Report detraveller January 25, 2020 11:40 AM GMT
Sure. I do blame fellow Germans for not standing up. But if I personally ever wanted to waste my energies complaining about things I would at least know where to direct it. Blaming Islam or the afghans or the rest of the mob is useless as they are just being offered free money and a better lifestyle and its almost their ethical duty to take it. If they didn't someone else will. Its the free money that you need to stop putting out, not whine about anyone who takes it when its on offer.
Report saddo January 25, 2020 11:42 AM GMT
You kept voting her in, we voted to get away from her influence. You are preaching to the one country who stood up and left.
Report detraveller January 25, 2020 11:51 AM GMT
My lectures are targeted at the whole of Europe but since this forum is mostly brits it leads to them most of the time. I would happily talk about how Austria gave up their territory to German police(we were taking control of the refugees as soon as they arrived at the Hungary/Austria border). But since there aren't any Austrians here I can't possibly have a conversation with anyone on that. Similarly the Italian navy took EU money to bring the libyans in. EU and Libya struck a deal which meant the navy was allowed to access the Libyan port with the excuse of rescuing migrants when they were just picking them up and dropping them into Europe. But again, no Italians here so I don't talk about that.

You're right in standing up to the EU. But nothing will change because the EU didn't cut down your police force or neutered your border patrol. Your own govt is complicit in this and they always side with the minority because then you get to complain about the minority and not the government. This is a very basic political strategy.
Report doridoru January 25, 2020 11:53 AM GMT
There was no problem with the borders, safer and people still got where they wanted, just no good for illegals and the dangerous which is how it should be...
Report doridoru January 25, 2020 11:53 AM GMT
Drove to Austria from England in 1994 and plenty of border stops, not a problem, of course the idiotic EU opened them all and as added bonus let 2 million unchecked mostly muslim men in, GENIUS!
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2020 12:49 PM GMT
love phillips and his QT crew the only reason knife crime is high up the agenda is because its left the sink estates and now involves them and their kids walking the streets,phillips banging on about no go zones caretakers,park keepers etc etc, why do these self entitled loons think there,s a queue of people  waiting to sign up to work in parks etc confronting knife wielding maniacs for minimum wage to keep the likes of phillips and his QT crew safe
Report UBLE/REGY January 25, 2020 12:52 PM GMT
We must have borders...this protects us in so many ways

Removing belies human intelligence..it seems to have disappeared
Report 1st time poster January 25, 2020 12:56 PM GMT
looney tory,s like Villiers,hancock conflating drunken jocks slashing each other after closing time 20 years ago with whats happening in London is laughable,these people are training themselves to use knives to kill people,they die of one or 2 puncture wounds not multiple slashing,s
Report UBLE/REGY January 25, 2020 12:56 PM GMT
I am sure we can make crossing of borders quick and easy...but they must always be there

Europe developed as different countries...we need to keep that...and in the World
Report UBLE/REGY January 25, 2020 1:00 PM GMT
Life thrives on variety, not being all the same..we should learn from evolution

just my own opinion
Report detraveller January 25, 2020 8:15 PM GMT
I don't think he is wrong. But the refugee crisis and Brexit have confused the public regarding illegal migration. The people that enter UK illegally are entirely UK's fault. And those people will continue to come until and unless the UK makes an attempt to stop them. As it stands, they are not interested in stopping the influx as there is considerable support for muslims from the tory givernment and the influx, which is mainly from muslim countries, only helps them.
Report unitedbiscuits January 25, 2020 8:27 PM GMT
How will turning our back on the EU stop illegal immigration?
Report unitedbiscuits January 25, 2020 8:29 PM GMT
In other words, how is illegal immigration the fault of Merkel, as Saddo attests?
Report detraveller January 25, 2020 8:44 PM GMT
She wrecked the EU, of which the UK is a part.
The illegal migration is entirely UK's fault like I said. Leaving EU does not make a difference in that regard. But people like to think it does.
Report unitedbiscuits January 25, 2020 9:17 PM GMT
Interesting, because if the influx of Muslims and other non-Christians to the UK keeps you awake at night, the percentage is about to multiply eightfold post-Brexit.

Nice work, Leavers.
Report detraveller January 25, 2020 9:25 PM GMT
Let's have one good reason why it would increase.
And one good reason why the increase will be eight-fold.
Report unitedbiscuits January 25, 2020 9:36 PM GMT
Let's have one good reason why it would increase.

Because the EU is an alliance of 28 Christian democracies, but only comprise 1 in 10 of the world population. Brexit means that we are turning our backs on their citizens to the advantage of people further afield.


And one good reason why the increase will be eight-fold.


Net non-EU immigration has already increased from 1 in 2 to 7 in 8. The top four countries for non-EU immigration are India, Pakistan, Nigeria and Bangladesh.
Report detraveller January 25, 2020 9:55 PM GMT
The first part sounds nonsense to me. Correct me if I am wrong, but after Brexit, EU people will still be able to go to the UK and work there. They will just need to go through more paperwork getting visas and work permissions, which will be granted as you need someone to work the lower jobs. No one is turning their backs on the rest of Europe. Christianity seems to have survived long enough without everyone belonging to the same political club. No point bringing religion into this.

I don't know if your figures are for legal or illegal immigration or both. As I have always maintained, illegals entering UK won't feel any difference with Brexit.
Report mecca January 26, 2020 3:09 AM GMT
I hear that a lot of this violent crime comes from visitors that have arrived here from war torn countries and they have witnessed despicable things.... It was on qt on Thursday night.

How come no massive increase in violent crime in 1918 or 1945 when the tommies came home after witnessing the horrors of war
Report flushgordon1 January 26, 2020 9:10 AM GMT
Cultcha!
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