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By:
casemoney
When: 14 Jan 20 21:13
NOTHING DONE !! add to that Girls who just went missing added quickly to the Runaway List , A full Nationwide public inquiry
needs to be set up .............
By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 21:15

Jan 14, 2020 -- 9:11PM, casemoney wrote:


The only thing they wont Accept is the Dream of Diversity , is in fact an on going nightmare ,there are at east 4 or 5 murders that are known about ,Girls houses burnt down , ran over by cars and even sold as kebab meat from a shop in Blackpool


Exactly some horrific cases most dont know about...

By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 21:17
Following a police decision to treat Charlene's disappearance as murder, there were several arrests in the case, and two men stood trial in May 2007. The prosecution alleged at Preston Crown Court that Charlene had been murdered by Iyad Albattikhi, a 29-year-old man from Jordan and the owner of "Funny Boyz" fast-food outlet in Blackpool. Mohammed Reveshi, Albattikhi's business partner, was accused of disposing of her body. According to the prosecution, Albattikhi had sex with Charlene.[20][21] The prosecution alleged that the men had discussed disposing of her body by putting it in kebabs sold from the fast food outlet.[5][22]
By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 21:18
Mashed her body up and sold it as kebab to the Blackpool folk...why do 95% of the public no nothing of this case?
By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 21:21
SHE WAS 14
By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 21:21
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Charlene_Downes

..and the bastards got away with it...
By:
casemoney
When: 14 Jan 20 21:42
We cannot have our diverse friends accused of chopping up young girls to sell as Kebab meat , These people are Gangsters
Drugs murders rape you name it Thousands involved Plain Most of the Girls involved prostituted , we had Teams on
the streets of Glasgow a few months trying to buy young girls ..
By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 22:02
Most of you will never heard of Kriss Donald, stabbed and set on fire while alive...by a muslim gang looking to kill a white, so why was this ignored but Lawrence murder so well known...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald
By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 22:03
Kriss Donald (2 July 1988 – 15 March 2004) was a 15-year-old white Scottish boy who was kidnapped and murdered in Glasgow in 2004 by a gang of men of Pakistani origin (though locally raised),[1] some of whom fled to Pakistan after the crime.[3][4][5][6] Daanish Zahid, Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Mohammed Faisal Mustaq were later found guilty of racially motivated murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.[3][4]

The case, which featured the first-ever conviction for racially motivated murder in Scotland, is cited in two newspaper articles as an example of the lack of attention the media and society give to white sufferers of racist attacks compared to that given to ethnic minorities.[7][8] It is also suggested the crime demonstrates how society has been forced to redefine racism so as to no longer exclude white victims.[9]
By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 22:03
On 15 March 2004, Donald was abducted from Kenmure Street by five men associated with a local British Pakistani gang led by Imran Shahid. The kidnapping was ostensibly revenge for an attack on Shahid at a nightclub in Glasgow city centre the night before by a local white gang, and Donald was chosen as an example of a "white boy from the McCulloch Street area" despite having no involvement in the nightclub attack or in any gang activity.[1][10][11][12][13]

Donald was taken on a 200-mile journey to Dundee and back while his kidnappers made phone calls looking for a house to take him to. Having no success at this, they returned to Glasgow and took him to the Clyde Walkway, near Celtic Football Club's training ground.[1][11] There, they held his arms (ascertained due to an absence of defensive wounds) and stabbed him multiple times. He sustained internal injuries to three arteries, one of his lungs, his liver and a kidney. He was doused in petrol and set on fire as he bled to death.
By:
doridoru
When: 14 Jan 20 22:04
"The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself"

THE BBC DISGRACE STILL AT IT...
By:
lux
When: 14 Jan 20 22:43
Newsnight now BBC2
By:
flushgordon1
When: 14 Jan 20 23:34
In 2001, in Rotherham - the Weir report (from wikipedia):

Weir handed her report to a South Yorkshire Police inspector; the only feedback was that it was "unhelpful".[91] According to the Jay report, one incident was, for Weir, the "final straw". A victim decided to file a complaint with the police. The perpetrators had smashed her parents' windows and broken her brothers' legs to stop her from reporting the rapes. Weir took her to the police station, but while there the victim received a text from the perpetrator to say he had her 11-year-old sister with him, and it was "your choice". This led the victim to believe someone had told the perpetrator she was at the police station, and she decided not to proceed with the complaint.[92] Following this, with the consent of her manager, Weir wrote in October 2001 to Mike Hedges, the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police, and to Christine Burbeary, the District Commander.[93][91] The letter said:

I have been visiting agencies, encouraging them to relay information to the police. Their responses have been identical—they have ceased passing on information as they perceive this to be a waste of time. Parents also have ceased to make missing person reports, a precursor to any child abduction investigation, as the police response is often so inappropriate. ... Children are being left at risk and their abusers unapprehended.[94][95]

The letter was not well received by the council or police.[96][97] During a meeting at Rotherham police station with senior police and council officials, they seemed incensed that Weir had written to the Chief Constable. Jayne Senior, who was present, said Weir was subjected to a "tirade that lasted I don't know how long".[98] According to Weir, at some point after this an official warned her against mentioning Asian men:

She said you must never refer to that again. You must never refer to Asian men. And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues.[87][98]
By:
digdeep
When: 15 Jan 20 00:04
Treat this girl the same as Steven Laurence,the guilty must be face justice and that includes all those that turned a blind eye to keep their jobs.
By:
digdeep
When: 15 Jan 20 00:09
Are the guilty Japanese,Chinese,Hindu,Etc,or are they a certain group of Asian men,very unfair to lump all Asian men as nasty perverted chid rapist imo.
By:
twizzle22
When: 15 Jan 20 09:00
Listened to radio 5 live this morning regarding this subject and NOT surprised the story was totally ignored... but not to worry...as long as the Women's football results were brought to our attention!! Sad
By:
Hanx
When: 15 Jan 20 09:22
For anyone wondering about the BBC's attitude to this, I urge you to read 'The Noble Liar' by Robin Aitken (or to give it its full title 'The Noble Liar - How and Why the BBC Distorts the News to Promote a Liberal Agenda')

John Humphrys comments on this area are also enlightening - and would have carried more weight if he'd eaised them before he retired wrather than whilst he was still riding the gravy train
By:
stewarts rise
When: 15 Jan 20 13:06
I'd suggest we all lobby our MPs to demand action about all these vile cases and the lack of action by police etc, but then i remembered my MP is Khalid Mahmood!Cry
By:
Reynard
When: 15 Jan 20 13:38
Could be worse . Could have been Naz Shah Mischief
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jan 20 16:10
Pakistan is in South Asia which comprises India, Pakistan, Bangladesh (East Pakistan) and Sri Lanka. I think one has to be more specific, to avoid tarnishing the rest of Asia eg China, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, etc, and South East Asia eg Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Phillippines, Thailand, etc.

The majority of immigrants in The UK are from South Asia ie Pakistanis, Indians and Sri Lankans in comparison to others from the Asia continent.
By:
Injera
When: 15 Jan 20 16:30
Rotherham...I've posted this before. South Yorkshire Plod utter scum. Nicola Blackwood reads from the Jay Report.

From 10:22 for 4 minutes.

https://youtu.be/rn9P4ZGq7JU?t=622
By:
Coachbuster
When: 15 Jan 20 16:40
never known Chinese Japananese to be known as  Asian  ...always regarded as  Oriental .

Asian are commonly known as the brown people  ...Indian ,Pakistani,Bangladeshi, Sri Lanka.

I've never ever got on with Pakistani folk ,really dislike  the ones i've met  unlike the Indians   ...Pakistani's  not my cup of tea  at all ,but you can't label them all as sex offenders  ffs  ..and thats the thing with labels
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jan 20 16:42
Just a bit more ob BBC News just a few moments ago on Simon Mc Coy: 56 cases in the pipeline; 314 suspected cases; 344 suspect.
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jan 20 16:48
Absolutely agree...cannot label the whole community. It's only those perpetrators convicted; almost everyone was Pakistani or of Pakistani origin. And loads more apparently according to latest reports; the ports would be busy, I guess.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 15 Jan 20 16:55
i'm sure there are some decent Pakistanis out there ,so  the last thing you want is a pack mentality targeting every single Pakistani   ...

meanwhile while it helps to know the enemy  you have to have to be careful
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 15 Jan 20 17:27
Until they hold to account those in authority who turn a blind eye to this kind of thing when it involves certain people, it will carry on.

First one on my list here would be Andy Burnham Mayor of Greater Manchester since 2017.
Labour MP Tony Lloyd was crime commissioner for Manchester between 2012 - 2017.
Another one who was getting paid to do nothing.

I'd ask them why they allowed it to happen on their watch when so many knew it was going on?
By:
detraveller
When: 15 Jan 20 18:37
Hold the police accountable. When you start sending them to jail the rest of the scum will do their job. And that will stop the pakistanis from continuing without any fear.

If you're just going to whine about how the latest van was full of Pakistanis, you're going nowhere. 3 decades of the same crime doesn't take place without police support.
By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jan 20 19:10
It's of utmost concern it is Pakistanis specific, why? Have they got a gripe against the locals only? Even if victims of discrimination and/or racism they cannot be used as an excuse for committing this vile crime against females.
By:
treetop
When: 15 Jan 20 20:36
The point has to be made to the Pakistani community that this has stained their name or it will continue among them while others just shrug and turn a blind eye to what is happening.
A tad unfair to blame Burnham Crips, this has been happening across GMP for two decades,read the excellent book Survivors by Maggie Oliver,a policewoman who fought for justice for three girls from Rochdale. Talking to a headmaster in 2003 he said "thank goodness you are here,we have been banging on the doors of social services for two years and they will not do anything".

These people in authority that have blocked these investigations should be prosecuted for dereliction of duty as much as the perpetrators.
The victims were children as young as 11 and 12 and have been discarded by our society like disposable waste.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 15 Jan 20 20:53
Of you want a child rapist for a neighbour vote Labour.
By:
casemoney
When: 15 Jan 20 21:07
Dear me a new slogan for the Steptoe Mob
By:
doridoru
When: 15 Jan 20 21:15

Jan 15, 2020 -- 8:53PM, flushgordon1 wrote:


Of you want a child rapist for a neighbour vote Labour.


CORRECT

By:
impossible123
When: 15 Jan 20 21:44
Whether it's robbery, drug smuggling, people trafficking, benefit/credit card fraud, sex crimes, etc, if it's a community specific this must be brought into the public attention. It's not discrimination or racism, but keeping others fully aware of the goings-on in order to reduce or prevent such crimes from happening.

Some of us could be related to victims of such crimes esp if they are perpetrated by a certain group of the population or profession. This is not discrimination, but targeting the cause and source so that a more effective solution or remedy could be implemented. If it involves a specific ethnic minority group sobeit - tough - but that's the only way forward, and sweeping it under the carpet will not. A reduction of that crime will benefit the community concerned too, and others.

I just hope the community concerned here ought to be honest with themselves and ask soul-searching questions why their male-folks are committing this heinous crimes against young vulnerable white girls.
By:
GAZO
When: 15 Jan 20 21:52
it may not be just young white girls,women are treated very poorly in the asian community,we lived next door to a indian couple who were having a baby and she told my wife she would love a girl but really hopes its a boy because it will be treated better
By:
treetop
When: 16 Jan 20 19:27
Labour's denial may have been an issue last month across the north which seems to have witnessed much abuse but the sad part is that other ethnic groups contain females that will have suffered and felt unable to reach out for help in tightly controlled communities.Ignoring the scale of the problem has helped nobody.
By:
Injera
When: 16 Jan 20 21:16
And so it goes on....

A teenage girl was raped in an alley on a Rochdale estate.

A manhunt has been launched following the sickening attack.

Police were called to Birch Road in Wardle on Wednesday evening (January 15).

Detectives say the attacker is believed to be 'black or of dual heritage'; 5ft 8; of medium build; and aged between 30 and 40.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/man-rape-teenager-wardle-rochdale-17578549
By:
Reynard
When: 16 Jan 20 21:23
Injera • January 16, 2020 9:16 PM GMT
And so it goes on....

Detectives say the attacker is believed to be 'black or of dual heritage'; 5ft 8; of medium build; and aged between 30 and 40.

........... don't ya just love these modern descriptions of ethnics ? Plain
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Jan 20 21:31
South Asian boys always come 1st before the girls unless the parents are (English) educated and open-minded; the parents lacking these qualities have tended to be old-fashioned and hell-bent on upholding the tradition of the male hierarchy being the leader of the house even if they are not intelligence blessed and lazy.

Just to quote Judge Rinder, you either are pregnant or not pregnant; you cannot be half pregnant. Either someone is black or not black. The definition of dual heritage, according to 'Google', is of different ethnic parents or cultural backgrounds.
By:
Injera
When: 17 Jan 20 17:13
Meghan is apparently black. However child rapists are 'Asian', 'black or of 'dual heritage'.

Crazy
By:
impossible123
When: 17 Jan 20 19:14
I'm confused dot.com
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