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I might add I'm the one that is saying climate change is real you seem to be the one that is saying it isn't and hating the people that say it is. Virtue signalling at it's finest.
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Drippin you always seem to attack me and not what I'm saying. That's because you know you always come off worst in a debate. Not just with me but with most people you oppose.
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Nope. Debating climate change is fine by me. Taking to twitter to join in the 'calls' for a pre-arranged fireworks display to be cancelled (from 1000s of miles away) is not.
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You addressed me first here Charlie.
You attacked me. Why do you lie? |
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I'm confused by you now Cider:
Charlie • January 2, 2020 7:02 PM GMT Or maybe climate change is happening. Report•Quote•Block UserCider • January 2, 2020 7:03 PM GMT Climate change has always happened. Virtue signalling however... Consecutive posts so what am I missing? |
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you are really saying how good you are.
Well let's face it cider, no one else is going to tell him he's good because he's not. |
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I've just done the same and I did attack you first. Apologies for that.
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Oh progress - apology accepted.
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Because lefties have taking the phrase 'climate change' to mean it's something that humans can significantly influence. I define climate change to be that over centuries the type of weather and average temperatures have changed over time, and will continue to do so. I sense you may feel it's something that humans can prevent or significantly influence (although I could be incorrect in that train of thought).
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So you're using the term lefties in a derogatory way (perhaps you think I'm a leftie?). Climate change isn't a political stance it's a scientific fact. You are correct in saying it's something that humans have made and can, possibly, correct.
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It used to be 'global warming' when I was growing up (a long time ago!). Yes I feel lefties have redefined the innocent term 'climate change' like calling a second referendum a 'peoples' vote'. As they like the term climate change denier ;)
Like I said, your interpretation of climate change (that humans can influence it) can be debated, but won't be by me here, lol. I don't dispute that over many many years the climate has changed. |
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Global warming or climate change they mean the same thing. Not debating whether climate change is man made is fine by me but denying it is different.
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"given it's their hottest and driest year ever."
Not true. |
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-02/2019-was-australias-hottest-and-driest-year-on-record/11837312
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I'll try that again: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-02/2019-was-australias-hottest-and-driest-year-on-record/11837312
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Oh well I give up on that.
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Need to put a full stop after it in Live View, Charlie, relse it gets truncated.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-02/2019-was-australias-hottest-and-driest-year-on-record/11837312 . |
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Thanks.
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The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE 02 Jan 20 23:50
"given it's their hottest and driest year ever." Not true. ....................................... I'd rather listen to someone who grew up there than statistics from a biased bunch of scientists charlie. |
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All they've done is weaponized the term 'climate change' and made it an emotive term in an attempt to heighten the fear factor among the general public. They inject a sense of urgency by saying things like, "We only have 10 years left to do something about climate change."
Catastrophic weather events have always happened throughout history, and I would say it only affects us more these days because of 1) population growth has put more people in the firing line when they happen. 2) Near instant world wide communication means we hear about them more often when they do occur, especially as it suits a certain political agenda. Then there's the possibility of weather manipulation to further the same agenda. |
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As children we grew up fearing nuclear war, I remember being very scared. Now they frighten the children with this.
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Yes, they like to keep us in a constant state of fear so they can look after us. We pay them handsomely for the privilege.
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I bet the polar bears stayed in bed .
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The Australian Bureau of Meteorology has been caught out adjusting (fudging) historical temperature records. Too much of an inconvenient truth.
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Charlie if you're quoting something to me from the ABC then don't bother. They're all extreme leftists obsessed with pushing their climate change agenda and all the other usual causes and nobody in the real world believes a word they say.
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I thought there might be more balance in your country than ours
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Sadly not saddo. The only stuff you'll hear on the ABC is climate change,gender issues,first nations crap (that's a new term for Aboriginals),Trump bashing,the Patriarchy. You know the deal.
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ABC are only reporting the figures:
The data is in and 2019 has topped the Bureau of Meteorology's (BOM) charts for average and maximum temperatures as well as the lowest annual rainfall across the country. You may not like what ABC say but that's neither here nor there. If you want to argue about the data then feel free. |
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errrrr
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE 03 Jan 20 11:49 The Australian Bureau of Meteorology has been caught out adjusting (fudging) historical temperature records. Too much of an inconvenient truth. |
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GMAD - very good post at 10.32.
The BBC are running a piece today on Zambia. It faces mass food shortages they say, because of 'Climate Change'. The rainy season was indeed later to arrive. But in Africa the problem they're slow to address is 'water harvesting'. A miniscule amount that falls is ever collected. So they're far too dependant on rainfall because they don't save and store it. It's one of the main reasons for starvation in Africa. They then compound the problem by felling millions of trees to make charcoal to sell. That turns countries into deserts. |
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I wouldn't trust the ABC or the BOM as far as I could throw them. Been caught fudging so often it's pathetic.
Again I repeat. These are not the worst bushfires ever. Far from it. It's not the hottest summer ever. I was wearing track pants a couple of weeks ago ffs. It's not the worst drought ever. The Federation drought was worse. I'm tired of these dickheads leaping on everything to push their agenda. Does the ABC ever mention the modern day phenomenon of modern day bushfires often started by lunatic arsonists? Do they ever mention the Greens dominated local councils and National Parks that prevent hazard reduction burns in winter because they want to 'protect' the environment? No. It doesn't suit their agenda which is all about blaming everything in the world on climate change. The people who live in these fire ravaged regions are white hot with anger about all this. The massive reduction in hazard reduction burns these last 20 years are the major reason these fires are so intense. Can you imagine going camping in the bush in Australia - an island so huge that 95% of it is basically unpopulated and inner city Greenies have made it illegal to gather up dead sticks off the ground to make a campfire. And now those same inner city Greenies that infest the ABC take great delight in trotting out their climate change propoganda. |
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Injera - it's the same here. The bloke who built the Harbour Bridge -Bradfield- had a plan to harvest the massive rainfalls in northern Queensland that just go out to sea and redirect them into river systems that would provide more than enough water for Eastern Australia forever. That was in the 1930s. No politician has ever done anything about it.
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That's incredible!!!
I have friends in Sydney who've told me it's neen cooler than normal lately! |
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This last week has been pretty warm though some cool changes in the evenings have been good. Definitely some days in December I wore track pants. It's not been 40+ for 40 days straight. Nothing like it. Summer in oz is Summer.It's hot. Especially away from the coast. You always get your stinkers. I remember as a boy in the 1970s we used to sleep outside sometimes because it was too hot in the house. 20 year old climate warrior twitter imbeciles think nothing has ever happened before their brief lifespan.
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The figures are national averages not individual areas.
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I remember back in the 80s my Dad was convinced an Ice Age was coming. A keen listener of ABC radio.
It's in a Clash song - London Calling - "The Ice Age is Coming". They're never wrong. Never admit they got it wrong. Just change the terminology and continue spruiking the same BS. |
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can anyone find that uk government suppressed report of 04 or whenever it was that said we would be underwater in 2020 someone posted it somewhere in a paper forum wish I could find it again
yes the government tried to hush it up coz the population would panic |
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found it - 2004
A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world. this seems to have been forgotten - only 4 years to go - sound familiar - princess greta/gore gives us 11 more |