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Somebody's confused but it's not Scott Menor.
Go and try and burn some wet paper, then try damp paper then try dry paper. I wonder which one would burn easiest. |
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You’re not listening Charlie. No one disputes that
Read what I said again. , read it slowly |
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How many fires are started deliberately?
Two of the most recent studies say there are between 52,000 and 54,000 bushfires in Australia every year. Dr Paul Read, co-director of Australia's National Centre for Research in Bushfire and Arson, puts the figure higher, at "62,000 and increasing". Of those, 13% are started deliberately, and 37% are suspicious. That means 31,000 Australian bushfires are either arson, or suspected arson, every year. That figure does not include recklessness or accidents. So a bushfire caused by a barbecue, or a spark from a chainsaw, would be classed as "accidental". In short, up to 85 bushfires begin every day because someone leaves their house and decides to start one. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-50400851 |
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Not necessarily , increased c02 could mean increased wealth in developing countries , and smaller families
Leading to less cio2 and less people That’s good |
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lfc1971 • January 8, 2020 6:01 PM GMT
You’re not listening Charlie. No one disputes that Read what I said again. , read it slowly I read it. What are you trying to add? It's not the fact that there may be be more arsonists but the fact that the stuff that burns is drier. Are you trying to use this as an argument that climate change isn't happening? |
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Charlie maybe it’s too subtle for you
I am saying that the fires we see in Australia may be exactly the fires we would expect to see Climate change or not The scientist Scott menor is muddled , not thinking clearly and scientifically Neither are you |
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Charlie, I haven't bothered involving myself with other threads because of the nature of arguments taking place on them.
You may recall that I was an industrial chemist by profession and I've seen the arguments since the early 1990s as we had to reformulate a lot of products due to political pressure. Many of us thought there was a lot of backside covering going on. Since then, the easy options have been taken and it doesn't seem to have made any difference. We were told the world was about to end 30 years ago and here we are in much the same situation. It's not something I worry about apart from the motives of politicians and activists. |
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Lol poor Charlie. Yes we can grasp that simple point
But the point is. The fires we see in Australia may not have been made worse by climate change They may have been exactly the same and as expected with no climate change whatsoever Just arsonists |
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I vaguely recall you as being an industrial chemist and know you are a clever (and nice!) bloke. (Sh!t chess player though
 )The end of the world quotes were and still are misleading but many of the predictions about climate change have come true. It's easy to pick out false ones made by some lone maverick but in general the major player's in climate change have been shown to be correct. |
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lfc
Do you think the temperatures in Australia are going up, coming down or staying the same? Say over the last 60 years. |
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I don’t know , I’m not saying there is no such thing as climate change , but I think it is largely natural not man made
And any change can be something we can live with If we take care of wildlife etc , these practical things |
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I just didn’t like the comment by Scott menor
It’s that sort of dishonest and illogical way of thinking that doesn’t help anyone |
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I used to work with another guy in our chess team who was marginally less sh!t (DWF).
 We reformulated all our industrial coatings which are sold worldwide to water-based (the afterburners in customer plants oxidise solvents to carbon dioxide and water so were an easy target). The real failure was not developing nuclear energy at the same time as France who responded positively to the oil crisis precipitated by OPEC in the 1970s, but we discovered North Sea oil which was cheaper to develop. |
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lfc
So you have no opinion about climate change but think it's not man made. Climate change is killing off lots of wildlife. I saw a program on telly recently were koala bears were dying in large numbers because the eucalyptus leaves they live on don't have enough moisture in them anymore to keep them alive. |
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If you are a scientist you are meant to be able to think logically
And honestly , not make assumptions to suit your preferred argument |
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Yes Charlie , but koalas are not endangered , thank god
And we should strive to make sure that remains the case |
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They will all die off if the eucalyptus plants can's sustain them because there's not enough water.
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Look at it this way. The climate could change dramatically
and we could still save the koalas |
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the predictions that have been made have ALL been wrong charles so you can't go there we were supposed to be ankle deep in water in 2020 or the other version - frozen by 2024 this was from a report that government hid ho ho ho
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Or the climate could change just s little , and the Koalas could go extinct
You see it’s important to see what is happening now |
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That’s right , we are not focusing on the real problem
Such as extending their habitat ..now |
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The bushfires could be explained by one thing
More houses exposed and near bushlands More people more building That’s all Of course the politicians want to blame something else , something they are not going to have to deal with But blame something , and nothing |
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where charlies princess greta/gore/greens intervene it seems to create more problems than solve them
the anarchist xr lot won't go near the main polluters in the east what does that say to you |
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We can manage all these things , including and climate change when and if it occurs
In the meantime look at what we are doing to the koala , elephant , tiger whatever That’s were the attention should be focused |
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Many creatures are threatened with extinction
But it’s not by climate change , it’s people |
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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/03/koala-bears-water-eucalyptus-leaves-trees-australia/
Tell that to the koalas. |
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The animals are suffering terribly...I think Australia has to bring back a firebreak system to prevent this recurring, or at least
limit it when it does. It gets very hot out there...this is always liable to happen |
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I always think ti strange that they have trees so near the house but I guess that in hot countries the shade provided is such a relief except at times like these.
There is a certain conceit that science is the only way forward when at times it is better to look back and see what has been done since time immemorial. |
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It is really so sad about the animals. As I said before the earth will recover we on the other hand....
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thousands of arsonists and greens interfering with traditional safeguards gives a very different picture to the warmist conspiracy
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thousands of arsonists and greens interfering with traditional safeguards gives a very different picture to the warmist conspiracy
You really are a plank! |
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somewhere I know well
my aunt had a fruit farm north of sydney the pet gala was something to hear!!! whispering is of the KHANT ian pursuasion - they hate criticism or alternative views the process of burning and firebreaking has been interfered with by the greens it is a fact that clashes with warmist conspirators and their narrative someone like whispering and charlie who are slaves to the greta/gore propaganda they can't help it |
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https://denialdepot.blogspot.com/2009/04/co2-levels-may-have-been-over-2000ppm.html |
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ps the proof is in the reply 'you really are a plank' but unable to deny this has happened so resorts to the usual personal hahahahaha
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sonko please stop posting stuff that does not fit in with the warmist's propaganda ho ho ho
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