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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 19:01

the hatred is palpable - nationalist causes are frightening - often ending up badly - the favourite harbour of reactionaries and nazis - strange to see a left wing organisation adopting this tone and strategy

but I believe stalin favoured elements of this himself ho ho

of course our other famous nationalist mr hilter went for it big time

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 19:02

what makes me laugh is how no scots living in england can vote - that is correct isn't it??

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 19:07

are you no longer scottish if you live in engerland?

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pa lapsy When: 20 Dec 19 19:09

Think you are getting your Nationalists mixed up with Dictators there Moisok.

Isn't brexit an expression of "Nationalism" in its own way?

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 19:13

oh they sure used 'nationalism' for their cause as is sturgeon and her cronies

what has brexit got to do with it I thought this was about the bloated one banging on about independence

and the great leader who seems to have no other thought whilst the home country has real problems

sounds a bit naughty to me - in fact it is a well known tactic to divert attention

feed the populace with national identity against the foreigners and you are there!!!

it is how wars get off the ground too

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 19:14

nothing mixed up here - I just see bad people at work

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 19:14

nothing mixed up here - I just see bad people at work

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pa lapsy When: 20 Dec 19 19:21

"feed the populace with national identity against the foreigners and you are there"

Isn't that chit chat these days?

Scotland as said is being governed by a clown,should they put up with it? Nae chance.

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EvgenyKissin When: 20 Dec 19 19:27

If your in Trilby, I'm having a noggin e/w on SAVALAS in the next at Wolves - who loves ya baby

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flushgordon1 When: 20 Dec 19 19:27

Everything is going to be fine ,just fine!

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EvgenyKissin When: 20 Dec 19 19:30

*you're

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EvgenyKissin When: 20 Dec 19 19:37

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 19:39

I am always VERY understanding of scottish persons and their needs.

In fact two of my close friends are from the Glasgee.

Their needs are good whiskey, to beat england at soccer ball and crush us at rugby.

I just tell them the wall will have to be built higher to keep the marauders in

And in the immortal words of bigmo - 'that's when the fight started'

ho ho ho
and minikin should give them the vote too

any living in UK should have the vote (scots) ok

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 19:40

and talk about outflank the english!!!

to get all that tax payers from the foreigners is brilliant

you have to admire them - they are a canny lot

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pa lapsy When: 20 Dec 19 19:45

Watching a horse called Line Out 12.10 Thurles Tom @ 33/1,two main negatives are his trainer is shrewd, and 3m unknown but he is a horse to watch,a naggin ew Evgenykissin, might be worth a tiny bet to get stake back i hope.

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bigmo When: 20 Dec 19 19:59

SNP got a bigger chip on their shoulder than Gibraltar.

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EvgenyKissin When: 20 Dec 19 19:59

Thanks, pa. Good luck for the rest of the evening and tomorrow and tomorrow etc.

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 21:03

just finishing and excellent Aberdeen Angus sirloin yum yum

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moisok When: 20 Dec 19 21:03

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lybertyne When: 20 Dec 19 21:18

Once Brexit is sorted and everything has calmed down, I'm talking perhaps 2021, the SNP should have their IndyRef2. In the recent election, parties in favour of independence, namely the SNP and Scottish Greens, received 1,270,502 votes. 1,484,740 votes were for pro-union parties. I realise that it was a General Election and not an Independence vote but the SNP talked constantly of Independence; surely if you're Scottish and yearning for independence your vote would go to the SNP. 53.9% of voters weren't wooed by talk of IndyRef2. Let them have their referendum. Let them lose it, along with their raison d'être.

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treetop When: 20 Dec 19 21:48

Blackford always reminds me of Mr Pickwick when I see him standing in the Commons.

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mafeking When: 21 Dec 19 02:02

yep it's all total bluster from sturgeon at the moment. boris should call her bluff and let her have it. she'd then be reversing so fast you wouldn't see her for dust

they can't seriously want another go until the polls are around 55% on a consistent basis. won't be getting a 3rd one for a long long time that's for sure

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JML When: 21 Dec 19 03:09

Let the Scots live on their own money for three years and then they can vote.

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politicspunter When: 21 Dec 19 04:16

Dec 20, 2019 -- 9:18PM, lybertyne wrote:

Once Brexit is sorted and everything has calmed down, I'm talking perhaps 2021, the SNP should have their IndyRef2.

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politicspunter When: 21 Dec 19 04:17

lybertyne • December 20, 2019 9:18 PM GMT
Once Brexit is sorted and everything has calmed down, I'm talking perhaps 2021, the SNP should have their IndyRef2. In the recent election, parties in favour of independence, namely the SNP and Scottish Greens, received 1,270,502 votes. 1,484,740 votes were for pro-union parties. I realise that it was a General Election and not an Independence vote but the SNP talked constantly of Independence; surely if you're Scottish and yearning for independence your vote would go to the SNP. 53.9% of voters weren't wooed by talk of IndyRef2. Let them have their referendum. Let them lose it, along with their raison d'être.

You have fallen into the trap of assuming folks that do not vote SNP do not want independence.

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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 08:14

Dec 20, 2019 -- 5:24PM, politicspunter wrote:

Dec 20, 2019 -- 4:45PM, trilby22 wrote:No, I didn't Poli. I was hoping Luke would retain his seat. I hope you had loads on it. Who's your MP anyway?You're Aberdeen South, Ken aye? Does that include Stonehaven? There's you trying to trick me into giving you panning tips Try these loon -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Boundary_Faulthttps://www.bbc.co.uk/... Lfc. How was the hot date?Nadine Dorries

She's quite a sort - and a good rags to riches story. Anxious would be raging at this Scouse Tory spiv

"Nadine Dorries was born in Liverpool in the 1950s and raised on a council estate, the daughter of a bus driver. Her first novel, THE FOUR STREETS, was inspired by memories of her childhood, particularly her Irish grandmother who she was very close to.

Nadine trained as a nurse, then followed with a successful career in which she established and then sold her own business. She has been the MP for Mid-Befordshire since 2005 and has three daughters."

Decent MP, iyo?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nadine+dorries&atb=v152-7__&iax=images&ia=images
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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 08:16

Dec 20, 2019 -- 5:43PM, lfc1971 wrote:

It went well trilby, thanks . She was nice , interesting , kind , an extrovert . I like women like that , well we would have to be half mad not to

Good stuff mate. I hope things go in the direction of your desire

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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 08:17

Dec 20, 2019 -- 6:12PM, moisok wrote:

The latest poll for independence was 56 stay with uk and 44 against.a bit of a blow for herI have always wondered why they swim against the tide annoying lots of people by banging on about to the detriment of home issues in scotlandThen I realised her hatred of the english, appealing to nationalism, diverts attention away from some of her home made disasters. It worked for Hitler too.

Nail on head there, Mo.

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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 08:19

Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:27PM, EvgenyKissin wrote:

If your in Trilby, I'm having a noggin e/w on SAVALAS in the next at Wolves - who loves ya baby

Nae luck Sir … assuming you're a sir and not a dame?

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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 08:21

Dec 20, 2019 -- 9:48PM, treetop wrote:

Blackford always reminds me of Mr Pickwick when I see him standing in the Commons.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Mr+Pickwick&atb=v152-7__&iax=images&ia=images

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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 08:25

Dec 21, 2019 -- 4:17AM, politicspunter wrote:

lybertyne • December 20, 2019 9:18 PM GMTOnce Brexit is sorted and everything has calmed down, I'm talking perhaps 2021, the SNP should have their IndyRef2. In the recent election, parties in favour of independence, namely the SNP and Scottish Greens, received 1,270,502 votes. 1,484,740 votes were for pro-union parties. I realise that it was a General Election and not an Independence vote but the SNP talked constantly of Independence; surely if you're Scottish and yearning for independence your vote would go to the SNP. 53.9% of voters weren't wooed by talk of IndyRef2. Let them have their referendum. Let them lose it, along with their raison d'être.You have fallen into the trap of assuming folks that do not vote SNP do not want independence.

You have fallen into the trap of assuming folks that do not vote SNP do not want independence.

No, it's not a trap at all, Poli. Likewise, as you once said to me, thinking the reverse of all people voting snp want indy is a trap. The numbers are not 100% but they are not that far away and a very good indication.

Many snp peeps are pro-Brexit. How aware of that are you?

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politicspunter When: 21 Dec 19 11:23

Dec 21, 2019 -- 8:25AM, trilby22 wrote:

Dec 21, 2019 -- 4:17AM, politicspunter wrote:lybertyne • December 20, 2019 9:18 PM GMTOnce Brexit is sorted and everything has calmed down, I'm talking perhaps 2021, the SNP should have their IndyRef2. In the recent election, parties in favour of independence, namely the SNP and Scottish Greens, received 1,270,502 votes. 1,484,740 votes were for pro-union parties. I realise that it was a General Election and not an Independence vote but the SNP talked constantly of Independence; surely if you're Scottish and yearning for independence your vote would go to the SNP. 53.9% of voters weren't wooed by talk of IndyRef2. Let them have their referendum. Let them lose it, along with their raison d'être.You have fallen into the trap of assuming folks that do not vote SNP do not want independence.You have fallen into the trap of assuming folks that do not vote SNP do not want independence.No, it's not a trap at all, Poli. Likewise, as you once said to me, thinking the reverse of all people voting snp want indy is a trap. The numbers are not 100% but they are not that far away and a very good indication.Many snp peeps are pro-Brexit. How aware of that are you?

Very aware, but don't confuse the EU remain/leave vote with an independence referendum. When it comes to such an important decision such as an independence referendum, party support is a good guide but far from an exact science. Here is the latest polling btw, 46% for, 47% against and 7% undecided.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/1039926/exclusive-courier-poll-showing-rise-in-support-for-independence-gives-election-day-boost-to-snp/

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politicspunter When: 21 Dec 19 11:25

And you can be guaranteed that many folks vote SNP because they like the Scottish government but they don't wish to be an independent country.

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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 11:54

No, I don't confuse them at all. Living here in the heart of Scotland and speaking to many people of various persuasions, I have a fairly clear idea of what's going on

Are you Scottish, btw?

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politicspunter When: 21 Dec 19 12:29

It's good to speak with your friends about political issues but opinion polls that cover the whole country, all ages and social grades I find are a slightly more reliable indicator of current public opinion.

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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 14:18

Friends, sure but I speak with many other people on my endeavours too

Are you Scottish then? You seem quite knowledgeable about things here

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trilby22 When: 21 Dec 19 14:19

I'm a field sevice engineer, btw.

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moisok When: 21 Dec 19 15:26

how the ... do you service a field? Sounds right nawty.

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Platini When: 21 Dec 19 17:30

So its ok to be nationalist if you're Scottish,
but definitely not ok if you're British ?

sounds like the logic of losers.

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moisok When: 21 Dec 19 17:59

nationalism leads to disaster
there is a record of it