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Where does it all End Peoples Vote Ignored why should any one Except anything Going Forward ?
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Peoples vote?
They haven't taken the previous vote very well, why the fack would people bother voting again unless its to remain? No deal gets voted for? they will kibosh it Boris deal? they will kibosh it Remain? they'll "honour it" with smiles on their faces A truly disgusting bunch of filth |
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Bozo has sent 2 letters - 1st one unsigned; 2nd one saying he doesn't "Believe extension is required"
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S Kinnock and Y Cooper both voted for this clown's delay amendment despite the former publicly stating Parliament must honour the result of The Referendum. Do they distrust Bojo that much? Or was it just a ruse, and they actually meant they did not want Brexit at all. Did Kinnock senior get to him?
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Bozo shouldn't have bothered even sent a letter
He should whipped his bum out after the vote was called, moony the s*** out of them Jo Swinson might have fainted with any luck as well |
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Is Bozo the thickest PM ever? Even John Major and his 3 CSEs (ok, O Levels) towers over this **** intellectually.
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it is basically the may deal but everyone is so scunnered now they don't care. something is better than nothing ?
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That's how they want it though northan
Basically we're so sick and tired of it just vote any kind of c*** through and lets end it Nah, lets keep going until we have no alternative but to go to war with the bas*ards, and looking at the state of them they wont last very long. Horribly overweight and not very fit to say the least |
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All of them look one hamburger away from a massive heart attack
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I’m incredulous at all this ‘any port in a storm mentality’ that so many have come out with on tv recently.
They are saying agree to anything just because they are sick of brexit. We are all sick of brexit, it doesn’t mean we should resort to impulsive measures that could be catastrophic. It’s very much like gambling, you lose and what do you do? Do you say well that was the bad luck now I’m due good luck next so I;m going all in? Do you b ollox, you take each action on it’s merits. It’s pretty well known bookies offer even worse value at the end of cards because there are some who go s hit or bust. This was boris’ game all along, bluster and drawn out gobs hit right until the very last to bring it down to a pressured poor valued bet (with hidden traps contained within) hoping enough would have simply thrown their hands into the air and accepted an even worse deal than May’s. |
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Michael Gove has disclosed the government’s Operation Yellowhammer contingency plan to handle a no-deal Brexit is being “triggered”.
The chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, in charge of preparations for a no-deal outcome, said the risk of such a scenario had increased due to MPs forcing the government to ask Brussels for another delay to the Brexit date. Some Westminster observers viewed the move as a bid to increase pressure on MPs to back prime minister Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal. Gove told Sky News: “The risk of leaving without a deal has actually increased because we cannot guarantee that the European Council will grant an extension. “And that is why I will, later today, be chairing a Cabinet committee meeting, extraordinarily on a Sunday, in order to ensure that the next stage of our exit preparations and our preparedness for no-deal is accelerated. “It means that we are triggering Operation Yellowhammer. “It means that we are preparing to ensure that, if no extension is granted, we have done everything possible in order to prepare to leave without a deal.” tock tick |
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So basically troops on the streets then?
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as i've said many times; we (leavers) are too soft. Remoaners yesterday put us too shame; then again would we get the same coverage from the MSM? I sincerely doubt it as they were excusing appalling behaviour yesterday. Now just imagine what would happen if during a leave protest someone with a crew cut farted
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Do you think they'll need to put troops on the streets?
And yes agree on the MSM, they soon shot out their hole when some of the leavers were "heckling" the MPs though, a truly pathetic bunch of losers |
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no; because of what i said above. Someone, somewhere has made a decision not to protest too much. The numbers are there, & i wouldn't want to get into a conspiracy theory on here even though i have one
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Maybe thats what boris' idea of more coppers (replacing the ones the tories cut) was all about
So the likes of rees mogg can walk around 10 handed like yesterday when the proletariat wake up to realise brexit wasnt at all about helping them but further punishing them. |
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They want to leave for their own reasons and it isn't to help us. But if we're going to leave then do it properly and lets get shafted by leaving entirely. not some pathetic watered down version whereby we don't technically leave, we still take in mass immigration, but we lose the human rights act and we have to abide by their bill of rights ffs.
That's all this is, they just want the power back in their hands (courts and their version of what "human rights" is), but they want all the good stuff like immigration etc, cheap labour still Being shafted all ends up and we ain't even facking leaving ![]() ![]() |
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The problem with boris' deal is that it is manifestation of deregulated workforces but with a smile painted on with 'trust us and not them'
If people trust boris and co they really need sectioning. |
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Who should we trust then.. Mr change his mind daily Corbyn or the Liberal " democrats " leader ignoring a democratic vote? Maybe the green peace leader suggesting we should all live in trees is the way forward
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What we all need to realise is that this version of democracy isnt what many people assumed it was and that radical things need to change.
Parliament has for too long simply been the place that lobbyists do their alternative job and integrity is left outside. MPs have to be more accountable and the things they say have to be punished if untrue, it's the bedrock of the system but truth is scant which undermines everything and makes it all a charade. |
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If anyone has read rees mogg's father's book they will see this has all been part of the plan to make democracy look worthless to move into the age where politics is replaced by guildes.
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isn't this the russian plan? to fk everything up so no one knows what they should do - confusion - and the elite group takeover
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there's probably more freedom in Russia than Bercows England
when this lfat overgrown hobbit goes on his book tour to the States; i do hope he hits Detroit first |
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'Remainers' are so full of themselves prophesying us 'Leavers' did not know what we were voting for, and what the future held for us or tried to educate us on Democracy and how to improve Democracy; just let us be, losers cannot be choosers!
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they didn't expect Bozo to get a deal; i posted on here about how shocked Hilary Wedgwood was looking when a deal was looking likely; so the Bercow clerks & cowards got to work on yet another amendment to frustrate the process. Zilch to do with leaving with no-deal; plenty do do with not wanting a deal full-stop. These amendments will continue until Bercow is gone; he is the one running this process (with his clerks) the Labour dummies are just following him. He will refuse a vote tomorrow & when the Government try to bring a 2nd act; there will be more amendments then flies around a turd
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oh btw forget Letwin, he was just the pawn
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Can anybody suggest to me a single section of the whole debate who is actually happy because all I see is opportunism across the board with everyone pulling in their own direction and the only constant being that things are going to get worse?
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Things can only get better
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impossible123 • October 20, 2019 9:14 PM BST
'Remainers' are so full of themselves prophesying us 'Leavers' did not know what we were voting for, and what the future held for us or tried to educate us on Democracy and how to improve Democracy; just let us be, losers cannot be choosers I love this argument, the idea that on the scant basis of truth they could determine.....what?, this? So you all voted for this outcome did you? It always amazes me how the brexiteers were sufficiently in the know about what they were voting for that 3 and a half years later still nobody can say what the outcome will be. Besides all that, the argument that MPs telling lies in order to get a reaction absolutely has an impact on those not with such foresight as those ‘who knew’, is in it’s self justified. I didn’t vote. |
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I believe in UK plc; I do not believe in The EU in its present structure and direction they are heading ie European Supremacy by enlarging landmass regardless - not Economic Supremacy.
I supported Brexit for two reasons ie sovereignty, and control of our borders; I'd like us to make our own laws; I'd like us to determine who comes in or not - no one else ie no external force. The present scenario is MPs induced ie MPs not carrying out the wish of the people and result of 2016 Referendum; the MPs have their own self-interest agenda at heart. The EU prior to 2004 (15 members) generated a gdp of about $9tr; in 2018 (28 members) the gdp generated was just over $19tr (it doubled), but only $1tr generated by the additional 13 new members since 2004 ie those of pariah economies (comparatively) - just $1tr between them. Are they a necessity given they were the main reason our annual net EU contribution is still humongous? I believe in EU Economic Development and Supremacy, but not EU Political Supremacy at humongous costs esp the new members pose social, cultural and economic disparities. As such, I cannot see the present EU going forward and prospering - I just cannot! |
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The implication was that brexit would be simple and that the EU would roll over and give us what we wanted. It wasn’t brexit that was sold to the people at the time of the ref. It was brigadoon , the way brexit was portrayed was that we would act within a vacuum and shape the outcome wholly to our needs.
The ‘final offer’ Boris deal has been called by the brexit party as ‘brexit in name only’. So it turned out to be fundamentally untrue to attest as part of the campaign that it would be straight forward, and yet ‘democracy’ is apparently at risk when the very assertions made couldn’t be justified. Quite how a clarification question to the people now they observe the reality is the manifestation of everything wrong is beyond me....especially when those puppets saying it, never say anything about the failures of ‘everyday’ parliamentary business like 3 line whips (what’s democratic about protecting power by ignoring constituents?) On the GDP, firstly you can’t compare a period before a world recession equally with one during and following one, but more than that is the fact all of the structure of enterprise in those figures were during a period where no tariffs or borders existed. What’s ‘conservative’ about the gamble of basing the assumption of further growth on ‘believing in British business’?.....I think we know really where potential growth is intended to come from....further deregulation and crushing of rights and sell offs of any remaining equity. |
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3:30 Bercow says no
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there's a shock; & his smirking slanty mouth is getting wider
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I can see a statue in the foyer of the great man |
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well they will have to put it on stilts or no fecker will be able to see it
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btw he's gone in 10 days
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Yeah but job done and will be well paid by his masters
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