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There seems to be no end of loonies on here denying climate change. Unfortunately, as yet I haven't seen any evidence forthcoming from them as to why it's not true.
There are plenty strawman arguments and glib remarks such as carbon dioxide is good for plants, the population of polar bears is increasing, the police are too soft on demonstrators, records only go back 40 years, ice has been crashing into the sea for hundreds of years, it's a stealth tax, I can't see any change in my back garden and of course lots of comments about Greta. But no evidence.
So climate change deniers please post some evidence along with their sources to support your argument.
There are plenty strawman arguments and glib remarks such as carbon dioxide is good for plants, the population of polar bears is increasing, the police are too soft on demonstrators, records only go back 40 years, ice has been crashing into the sea for hundreds of years, it's a stealth tax, I can't see any change in my back garden and of course lots of comments about Greta. But no evidence.
So climate change deniers please post some evidence along with their sources to support your argument.
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You are so right charlie. I dislike all these nasty reactary spivs who insult our high priestess greta.
Having said that we have had to put the central heating on. Will I be hauled in front of our glorious leader for punishment. ps there are now too many polar bears - now causing a congestion problem on their way to the fish stocks will it never end!!?? |
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So after all the spouting off by climate change deniers not one has the balls to say why they think it's not true. How very typical.
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Carbon credits $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - leaving it at that
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I'm all in favour of limiting pollution in the towns and cities, in the interests of clean air.
But these electric cars are seriously limited in their range of miles per charge. Then there's the scarcity of charging points. So I won't be buying one yet. The rest of the emissions outcry is a load of tripe. Greenhouse gasses indeed, sounds like somebody's been growing too many tomatoes. |
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As we make our towns and cities bigger with endless building, they heat up. On a hot day, a city will be several degrees warmer than a rural location.
More people + more buildings + more transport and infrastructure = higher carbon usage, greater demand for water and hotter places to live. Pause immigration and house building until we've discovered a way to build in such a way as to harvest water and limit carbon usage. |
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Just like a packet of sweets keep eating them they run out ,just like the world we live in its getting old and emptying out...
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I think there's vested interests in maintaining a dogmatic position on the effect human's have on climate change (which I guess is what the OP is getting at - that climate has changed to varying degrees over time, is something we can all agree on, surely?)
It's bad science to remain close-mided about any topic. Personally I try to keep across developments and thinking on this subject (since it's the furure of home sapiens were gabbing on about, that seems a pretty important thing to me). Right now I'm trying to get to grips with Milankovitch Cycles and their effect on climate change, hence the reason why I have no life. What I do know with all certainty is that if Extinction Rebellions demands are ever made flesh, we will see the biggest threat to mankind through recession and political instability, there has ever been, Mankind will not survive the political fallout from the overnight crash in petro-economies |
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I don't think many are denying climate change, its the extent and esp to what extent mankind is responsible. Thats where the debate is.
The alarmists are using shady science to make armageddon predictions. And its all political, that alone should make you question it. |
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So far we've got tm spouting his normal crap, carbon credits leave it that, somebody growing too many tomatoes, immigration causing more houses and warmer cities, and it's all political. With the notable exception of Hanx and Milankovitch Cycles (which I don't understand) there has been no attempt at evidence to deny global warming.
I find this quite typical of so many posters that when asked for evidence of what they say they can't find any. |
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There was the article in the independent in March 2000, saying snowfall will be a thing of the past. No one on here could have disputed that with evidence at the time, but we know 20 years later that it wasn't remotely true.
https://www.climatedepot.com/2018/01/04/flashback-2000-snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-children-just-arent-going-to-know-what-snow-is-uk-independent/ The research experts that contributed to that piece are still the experts today. David Parker is head of climate monitoring at the Hadley centre, one of the UK's leading centre's for studying climate change. 'British children could have only virtual experience of snow. Via the internet, they might wonder at polar scenes – or eventually “feel” virtual cold.' Dr David Viner is an internationally recognised expert on climate change. “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” |
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Thanks for that blank.
I don't get how that 'refutes' global warming. Would you care to elaborate on how it does. |
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doom and gloom predicted from 1970 onwards ALL have been wrong.
ESPECIALLY THE POLAR BEARS - locals have been quoted (then) that they believed there were only a few hundred left That's people who LIVED with or near them(true figure(?) 15000 or son) Now well over 30,000 etc just one of the many falsehoods the changers have used to manipulate for their schemes |
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It also helps to fill the coffers of all the 'protection' societies and to pay all their bloated salaries.
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SCAREMONGERING - like the extinction lot - the latest manipulators of truth.
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moisok your sole argument seems to be about polar bears which you repeat ad nauseam. Please explain why you think an increase in polar bears is an argument against global warming. I'll start by saying there has been a ban on killing polar bears and the melting of their natural habitat has meant they are migrating south where they can scavenge food.
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I'm not asking for the impossible. I'm asking for evidence by deniers who are quick to say that there is no global warming but can't say why. You're talking about one or two people who expressed an opinion that may have been wrong. That doesn't mean global warming isn't real. There are many thousands of scientists who say it is.
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I'll repeat: evidence that global warming isn't happening.
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I'm amazed that anyone who has looked at this (deniers) hasn't mentioned a particular 'scientist' from afar whose talk was recently shown on Youtube. It appears that if it's not on Icke's site then it's not news. I have looked at what he said carefully.
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My partner had to put a coat on today - she felt cold - although we have only had the central heating on once this week.
They climate scarers have been at it for decades and been completely wrong Do I have to give every example of this or are you far too lazy to go look up the massive list and all the scientists who have challenged the scarers |
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I do hope you do not come on here to wind people up with these 'losers' arguments about the melting planet.
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Unless your boyfriend is of global proportions then it is of no relevance.
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Charlie • October 13, 2019 7:15 PM BST
I'm not asking for the impossible. I'm asking for evidence by deniers who are quick to say that there is no global warming but can't say why. You're talking about one or two people who expressed an opinion that may have been wrong. That doesn't mean global warming isn't real. There are many thousands of scientists who say it is. Sounds like the argument of a conspiracy nut,did you get that off loon tube? |
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I will admit to a magnificent sun tan in 76 and 77 but being snowed in (hedge high snow drifts and cut off for 6 days) in 1978 - sure were some climate change then what a few years they were wow!!
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Oh sorry, it's you who dresses in women's clothes not him. It's a tad confusing.
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it has been proven that the whole thing is a scam to make money - carbon tax is one and filling the coffers of scarers organisations and animal welfare organisation and pay their inflated salaries
people are making huge money out of it |
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Sounds like the argument of a conspiracy nut,did you get that off loon tube?
No. It's accepted world-wide by scientists. |
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what's my dress sense got to do with it?
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So we have now descended into slagging off mode but you still haven't posted any evidence.
Denzil do you really want me to post a list of the academic organisations they believe in global warming? |
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what boyfriend ?
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The guy got bored and is on a wind up. charlie that is
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Sorry Denzil!
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I've been on Wikipedia looking at the graph over the last 2000 years (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png). The only real standout from very stable temperatures is the black line that rockets up sharply. That's from the Hadley centre, the head of which said snow would end in the UK, so that model isn't reliable.
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The earth warms up and the earth cools down.
No one is denying that. Amusingly all the doomsday deadlines have come and gone. And as one is passed, so another line is drawn into the future, by the same people who were wrong the time before and no doubt will be wrong again. What we should ask ourselves is - why aren't the major polluters taking global warming seriously if it's man made? |
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What we should ask ourselves is - why aren't the major polluters taking global warming seriously if it's man made?
That's the issue I've got because under this Paris Accords carbon credits scandal good ole China is going to be allowed to increase it's output not reduce it. |
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they posted a poor lone bear wobbling on a sliver of ice all on his lonesome implying he was marooned at sea(they swim a long way incidentally) and pushed out huge lies about their population, which has increased steadily for many years since the scare stories of only a few hundred being left
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