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By:
moisok
When: 24 Oct 19 22:45
I didn't say they were down to hundreds - someone else did
By:
moisok
When: 24 Oct 19 22:46
you can't even read it though can you - but it contradicts all you global warmists believe in and you simply don't like it
By:
moisok
When: 24 Oct 19 22:50
When future generations look back on the global-warming scare of the past 30 years, nothing will shock them more than the extent to which the official temperature records – on which the entire panic ultimately rested – were systematically “adjusted” to show the Earth as having warmed much more than the actual data justified.

Two weeks ago, under the headline “How we are being tricked by flawed data on global warming”, I wrote about Paul Homewood, who, on his Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, had checked the published temperature graphs for three weather stations in Paraguay against the temperatures that had originally been recorded. In each instance, the actual trend of 60 years of data had been dramatically reversed, so that a cooling trend was changed to one that showed a marked warming.

This was only the latest of many examples of a practice long recognised by expert observers around the world – one that raises an ever larger question mark over the entire official surface-temperature record.

Following my last article, Homewood checked a swathe of other South American weather stations around the original three. In each case he found the same suspicious one-way “adjustments”. First these were made by the US government’s Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN). They were then amplified by two of the main official surface records, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (Giss) and the National Climate Data Center (NCDC), which use the warming trends to estimate temperatures across the vast regions of the Earth where no measurements are taken. Yet these are the very records on which scientists and politicians rely for their belief in “global warming”.

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Homewood has now turned his attention to the weather stations across much of the Arctic, between Canada (51 degrees W) and the heart of Siberia (87 degrees E). Again, in nearly every case, the same one-way adjustments have been made, to show warming up to 1 degree C or more higher than was indicated by the data that was actually recorded. This has surprised no one more than Traust Jonsson, who was long in charge of climate research for the Iceland met office (and with whom Homewood has been in touch). Jonsson was amazed to see how the new version completely “disappears” Iceland’s “sea ice years” around 1970, when a period of extreme cooling almost devastated his country’s economy.

One of the first examples of these “adjustments” was exposed in 2007 by the statistician Steve McIntyre, when he discovered a paper published in 1987 by James Hansen, the scientist (later turned fanatical climate activist) who for many years ran Giss. Hansen’s original graph showed temperatures in the Arctic as having been much higher around 1940 than at any time since. But as Homewood reveals in his blog post, “Temperature adjustments transform Arctic history”, Giss has turned this upside down. Arctic temperatures from that time have been lowered so much that that they are now dwarfed by those of the past 20 years.



Homewood’s interest in the Arctic is partly because the “vanishing” of its polar ice (and the polar bears) has become such a poster-child for those trying to persuade us that we are threatened by runaway warming. But he chose that particular stretch of the Arctic because it is where ice is affected by warmer water brought in by cyclical shifts in a major Atlantic current – this last peaked at just the time 75 years ago when Arctic ice retreated even further than it has done recently. The ice-melt is not caused by rising global temperatures at all.

Of much more serious significance, however, is the way this wholesale manipulation of the official temperature record – for reasons GHCN and Giss have never plausibly explained – has become the real elephant in the room of the greatest and most costly scare the world has known. This really does begin to look like one of the greatest scientific scandals of all time.
By:
Mexico
When: 24 Oct 19 22:51
Stop posting lies snowflake

You posted the lie about hundreds of bears - nobody hacked your account.
When repeatedly asked to back up your lies you refused to address the sensible question & just posted pages & pages of irrelevant garbage.

It was you who posted the carp about hundreds of bears.

You can't even realise that not shooting the creatures effects the population.

Of course scientists use thermometer & satellites to measure temperature NOT bears.

Stop posting lies .
By:
moisok
When: 24 Oct 19 22:59
There is more evidence I have taken the time to find for you but it isn't good enough as it clashes with what your leaders tell you and you believe.
You clearly can't accept the evidence.
By:
treetop
When: 24 Oct 19 23:46
moisok makes the excellent point that the goalposts keep changing whenever the environment scientists are shown to be wrong. Polar bear threats were highlighted for a long time,icecaps and snow disappearing were highlighted for a long time, the hockey stick graph was shown at the highest level with dire predictions for a long time then dropped out of the media. Data from East Anglia Uni had to be hacked by Russians after their man stalked off at a presentation arranged by Blair when he wouldn't divulge his data to permit statistical analysis/verification.The public are entitled to be sceptical after several questionable issues.Several respectable scientists complained that the IPCC had been selective in their compilation of reports to be included in their summaries.I prefer to sceptical rather than hysterical.
By:
Charlie
When: 25 Oct 19 07:10

Oct 24, 2019 -- 10:45PM, moisok wrote:


I didn't say they were down to hundreds - someone else did


moisok • October 24, 2019 8:13 PM BST
why did they say 'we thought there were only a few hundred left'  it was all over the press
now its   22 - 31000 polar bears  - even the WWF can't hide the growth  ho ho
don't you just get sick of the lies

Tries to cover up his lie by saying it was a sub-population. But that sub-population isn't now 22-31,000. I do get sick of your lies moisok.

By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 25 Oct 19 10:04
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Man made climate change !!!!!! Whatever next ? Maybe a C tax ? Perhaps the C levels are rising ? Well i know for a fact the C LEVELS are rising on here. Silly
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 13:16
even al gore said they were down to hundreds

hope this helps
By:
terry mccann
When: 25 Oct 19 13:31
He would
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 14:10
This evening, an important lecture is being delivered in London on the subject of man-made or anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory.

If you follow BBC news programmes, you are extremely unlikely to hear anything about this important lecture.

That is because the scientist delivering it is saying that man-made global warming theory is a scam.

BBC policy is to report no challenge to AGW theory at all. The explicit statement of this policy was set out in a four-page memo by Fran Unsworth, the BBC’s Director of News and Current Affairs, which was leaked to Carbon Brief last month.

This memo maintained that man-made climate change “exists” and no-one proposing the contrary view – offensively termed a “denier” – was needed to balance the debate. “To achieve impartiality, you do not need to include outright deniers of climate change in BBC coverage, in the same way you would not have someone denying that Manchester United won 2-0 last Saturday. The referee has spoken.”

In true Soviet fashion, the BBC will now indoctrinate its journalists into misreporting the issue. It will be “offering all editorial staff new training for reporting on climate change. The one hour course covers the latest science, policy, research, and misconceptions to challenge, giving you confidence to cover the topic accurately and knowledgeably”.

In itself, this is absolutely astounding. In the BBC’s mindset, propaganda is fact and scientific facts are propaganda. Censoring information like this goes against the most fundamental BBC rules of fairness. It goes against the most fundamental rules of journalistic objectivity. And it goes against science itself. The widespread claim that “the science is settled” on AGW is scientifically illiterate. Science is never settled but is always subject to fresh discovery, analysis and challenge.

The BBC subscribes to the claim that some 97 per cent of the world’s scientists agree man-made global warming is an established fact, and that it is “denied” by only a few cranks or propagandists on the fringes of academic respectability. This is also totally untrue. I refer to many such sceptical scientists in my 2010 book The World Turned Upside Down: the Global Battle over God, Truth and Power. These include some of the most distinguished in their field who were used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as expert reviewers of the evidence – but resigned when they realised that the IPCC, a political/ideological rather than scientific body, was grossly misrepresenting their research to support an AGW thesis that didn’t stack up.

The man delivering tonight’s lecture is one of the most eminent climate scientists in the world. He is Richard Lindzen, who until his retirement in 2013 was Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He is the author of over 200 papers on meteorology and climatology and is a member of the US National Academy of Sciences. He has consistently drawn attention to the fact that AGW theory is a sham and a scam.

In tonight’s lecture, he ridicules the core premises of AGW theory that the climate, a complex multifactor system, can be summarised in just one variable – the globally averaged temperature change – and that it is primarily controlled by the 1-2 per cent perturbation in the single variable of carbon dioxide. This, he says, is “an extraordinary pair of claims based on reasoning that borders on magical thinking.”

That’s because it is dictated not by science but by politics and ideology. “A few years ago Christiana Figueres, then executive secretary of UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, said that mankind was, for the first time in history, setting itself the task of intentionally changing the economic system”.

On the evidence itself, Prof Lindzen simply shreds AGW “magical thinking” as not just irredeemably stupid but as not even saying what its hysterical exponents in the media and elsewhere say it says.

“Turning to the issue of temperature extremes, is there any data to even support concern? As to these extremes, the data shows no trend and the IPCC agrees.

“… At the heart of this nonsense is the failure to distinguish weather from climate. Thus, global warming refers to the welcome increase in temperature of about 1◦C since the end of the Little Ice Age about 200 years ago. On the other hand, weather extremes involve temperature changes of the order of 20◦C. Such large changes have a profoundly different origin from global warming.

“This has also been the case with sea-level rise. Sea level has been increasing by about 8 inches per century for hundreds of years, and we have clearly been able to deal with it. In order to promote fear, however, those models that predict much larger increases are invoked. As a practical matter, it has long been known that at most coastal locations, changes in sea level, as measured by tide gauges, are primarily due to changes in land level associated with both tectonics and land use. Moreover, the small change in global mean temperature (actually the change in temperature increase) is much smaller than what the computer models used by the IPCC have predicted. Even if all this change were due to man, it would be most consistent with low sensitivity to added carbon dioxide, and the IPCC only claims that most (not all) of the warming over the past 60 years is due to man’s activities. Thus, the issue of man-made climate change does not appear to be a serious problem”.

That hasn’t stopped nonsensical hypotheses being fed into computers – whose modelling function is in any event wholly inadequate to deal with the extreme complexities of climate even if accurate data were being fed into them.

The whole thing is absurd beyond belief. Yet that hasn’t stopped the shameless production of ever more ludicrous inconsistencies, contradictions and lacunae. Today the IPCC has issued yet another prediction of climate apocalypse, giving us 12 years to limit the catastrophe of climate change.

Really?

In 2006 Al Gore said the planet had 10 years to avert climate change apocalypse. In 1989, a senior UN environmental official said entire nations could be wiped out by rising sea levels if the global warming trend wasn’t reversed by the year 2000. In 2007, seven years after that supposed tipping point had come and gone, Rajendra Pachauri, then the IPPC chief, declared: “If there’s no action before 2012, that’s too late.”

marvel at the way the tipping point for the apocalypse has itself been tipping throughout the years.

The original IPCC report predicted that a 2℃ increase in global warming would produce planetary catastrophe. In today’s report, the IPCC claims that even half a degree of extra warming will “affect hundreds of millions of people, decimate corals and intensify heat extremes”.

Limiting global warming to 1.5℃, as it recommends, would require “rapid, far-reaching and unprecedented changes in all aspects of society” – ie, reducing carbon emissions to zero and thus plunging the world back into the pre-industrial dark ages.

And yet: global temperatures have been falling sharply since 2016 while the 21st century warming trend is half of what most climate models predicted;
Arctic sea ice is no longer decreasing but expanding and thickening;
Polar bears are not dying out but their numbers are stable or even expanding.

And so on.

As Prof Lindzen says: “Misrepresentation, exaggeration, cherry picking, or outright lying pretty much covers all the so-called evidence… An implausible conjecture backed by false evidence and repeated incessantly has become politically correct ‘knowledge,’ and is used to promote the overturn of industrial civilization”.

The man-made global warming scam is the defining motif of the west’s own cultural death warrant. And that’s because it is the signature issue illustrating the western world’s repudiation of modernity, science and reason itself.
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 25 Oct 19 14:20
I've noticed that snowmen melt alot quicker these past few years than they did when I was a child years ago

Some of them don't even bother to put a coat on when they go out

I've spoken to a few of them about the need to put a coat on when there outside .They just stand there and look at me as if I'm not worth  the space im occupying
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 25 Oct 19 14:26
Hard to argue with them tbf
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 15:15
one 'expert' some years back  said uk children wouldn't know what snow was 

yet another prediction that went wrong

although it don't look like snow at the moment - we have had the heating on as we felt a touch cold

but then we are Mercian spivs darn sarf
By:
Charlie
When: 25 Oct 19 15:22

Oct 25, 2019 -- 3:15PM, moisok wrote:


one 'expert' some years back  said uk children wouldn't know what snow was  yet another prediction that went wrongalthough it don't look like snow at the moment - we have had the heating on as we felt a touch coldbut then we are Mercian spivs darn sarf


moisok have you been tested for any form of memory loss as you keep repeating the same things over and over? A serious question by the way.

By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 15:38
I take on board yet another slimey slur from the global warming inquisition slaves repeating their same old same old mantra.

My nurse gives me pills every day so it can't be that.  Perhaps it is more to do with the outrageous claims your high priest/priestesses make based on dodgy short term evidence.

By the way - it's not Co2  either 

thank you
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 25 Oct 19 16:06
Mexico
Mexico24 Oct 19 22:36Joined: 25 Mar 03 | Topic/replies: 5,999 | Blogger: Mexico's blog
Thermometers are used to measure temperature NOT Polar bears.


Thank fk for that, I wouldn't want try and get one under my tongue, let alone up my 'arris
By:
Charlie
When: 25 Oct 19 16:09
Professor emeritus Richard Lindzen

You'd have to be a fool to believe this guy. He's been proved wrong so many times it's embarrassing. This is the bloke who was skeptical that smoking causes lung cancer.

He's been debunked so many times by so many people that you'd think he only does it because he gets paid by fossil-fuel companies as he does.

The Guardian summed him up nicely:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2014/jan/06/climate-change-climate-change-scepticism
Richard Lindzen is one of the approximately 3 percent of climate scientists who believe the human influence on global warming is relatively small (though Lindzen is now retired, no longer doing scientific research). More importantly, he's been wrong about nearly every major climate argument he's made over the past two decades. Lindzen is arguably the climate scientist who's been the wrongest, longest.

Here's a sample of innumerable articles directly criticizing his ideas:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/04/lindzen-in-newsweek/
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06032017/climate-change-denial-scientists-richard-lindzen-mit-donald-trump
https://www.carbonbrief.org/a-disservice-to-the-scientific-method-climate-scientists-take-on-richard-lindzen
https://thinkprogress.org/lindzen-debunked-again-new-scientific-study-finds-his-paper-downplaying-dangers-of-human-caused-c931eeb2ecf6/
https://skepticalscience.com/lindzen-london-illusions.html
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:14
I can do that#
will be back later to do it
you can't refute ALL the evidence I have provided - particularly about the lies and predictions that have been made and are purely scaremongering

Al Gore - only hundreds of bears oh hahahahaha
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:30
Earth day 1970 era
Ronald Bailey, reason.com: Thirty Years ago, 20 million Americans participated in the first Earth Day on April 22, 1970. The organizers of Earth Day 2000 expect 500 million people around the globe to participate in celebrations, workshops, and demonstrations. Earth Day 1970 provoked a torrent of apocalyptic predictions. "We have about five more years at the outside to do something." Three decades later, the world hasn't come to an end; if anything, the planet's ecological future has never looked so promising. Now is a good time to look back on the predictions made at the first Earth Day and see how they've held up and what we can learn from them.

http://efn-usa.org/people/item/1145-earth-day-then-and-now-ronald-bailey-reason-com
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:32
Paul Driessen, senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow: Foreign tourism in France has been the highest in the world. It has beautiful countrysides, mountains, sea coasts, towns and cities. It also has very high taxes and dogmatic governments when it comes to the illusion of catastrophic man-made global warming from use of fossil fuels. In 2018, the French government imposed more taxes on transportation fuels supposedly to save the world from catastrophic man-made global warming. Common French citizena had enough. They put on their gilets jaunes - yellow safety jackets required in all cars and blocked streets across the country. Everywhere, France is rioting. France is burning. It is ugly. French President, Emmanuel Macron, fled Paris and cancelled the additional carbon tax. This is not the end, but it is the beginning of the end of dogmatic government policies about supposed catastrophic man-made climate change, in France and across Europe.
By:
terry mccann
When: 25 Oct 19 16:32
Just like to point out that Al Gore and his elite mates couldn't give a flying **** about Polar Bears or anything else expect for $$$$$
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:37
18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:40
I simply love this one

Climate preacher/scientist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez predicted recently that “We’re like… the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change.” You can add that to the spectacularly wrong predictions made this year around the time of Earth Day 2019.

Finally, think about this question, posed by Ronald Bailey in 2000: What will Earth look like when Earth Day 60 rolls around in 2030? Bailey predicts a much cleaner, and much richer future world, with less hunger and malnutrition, less poverty, and longer life expectancy, and with lower mineral and metal prices. But he makes one final prediction about Earth Day 2030: “There will be a disproportionately influential group of doomsters predicting that the future–and the present–never looked so bleak.” In other words, the hype, hysteria and spectacularly wrong apocalyptic predictions will continue, promoted by the virtue signalling “environmental grievance hustlers” like AOC.
By:
Charlie
When: 25 Oct 19 16:41
Do you have a point or are you just posting randomly?
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:44
too much for you I guess - proving what a huge industry of lies to make money whilst trying to panick people

they have been at it for several decades

but you can't see it - never mind
By:
Charlie
When: 25 Oct 19 16:45
Climate preacher/scientist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Would this be the same: Ocasio-Cortez majored in international relations and economics at Boston University, graduating **** laude in 2011. She then worked as a waitress and bartender before running for Congress in 2018; she also served as an educational director for the five-day-long 2017 Northeast Collegiate World Series for the National Hispanic Institute.[10][11]

Not a scientist. Do you actually check things?
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:46
On my next visit to Holland I must check out the sea levels.  The dutch must be stupid then.  Quite a lot of them are all underwater  or should beDevil (I think)
By:
Charlie
When: 25 Oct 19 16:48
So after all your various attempts you still have not given one shred of evidence to disprove global warming.

If the Dutch are stupid then they'll welcome you.
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:48
regardless dear charles, she is one of the big whipper ins of the climate scaring

what has science got to do with it when millions of 'scientists' go on marches whipped up into a frenzie by the media

you don't need science anymore - Gore and his lot have seen to that
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:49
that would be frenzy
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:50
the problem is that progressives and warmists simply don't like any challenge to the over the top presentations of so called FACT

that is the issue here ha ha
By:
Charlie
When: 25 Oct 19 16:51
what has science got to do with it

When you call someone a scientist then everything. But you don't seem to do facts do you. Polar bear population down to hundreds.
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:52
I don't know where this one came from - it certainly ain't mine - I am too thick as has been pointed out many times and a low IQ to boot etc




Never bet on the end of the world. If you are wrong you will be in trouble, if you are right it won’t matter.
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:53
al gore said it and had scientific backing - or so it was made out

you just don't see it
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 25 Oct 19 16:53
I beg to differ Charlie,

Lindzen is arguably the climate scientist who's been the wrongest, longest.


NASA's James Hansen. has been at it for decades. The man is a confirmed LIAR. A confirmed fraud and in his spare time he is known to continue to move goalposts in order to make the LIES he tells  fit the agenda he has been scripted.

James Edward Hansen is an American adjunct professor directing the Program on Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions of the Earth Institute at Columbia University. Wikipedia
Born: 29 March 1941 (age 78 years), Denison, Iowa, United States
Education: The University of Iowa
Influenced by: James Van Allen ( Now there is a surprise. One of their own i think you will find Grin ) I wish these goons would simply just BELT up Silly

Have you got a mirror in your bedsit Charlie ? If so I would take a long hard look into it and shake your head at your own startling pig ignorance.
By:
Charlie
When: 25 Oct 19 16:54
moisok • October 25, 2019 4:40 PM BST
I simply love this one

Climate preacher/scientist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez predicted

Are you saying you didn't post this?
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:56
another little snippet from the webb


Actually, the point is that all the following dire predictions were made without any qualifiers like “unless we do something” or “if things continue”, and they were all spectacularly wrong.

Those of us who have lived through all those “terrible” times have learned not to take such alarming predictions like these seriously, because they are almost certainly wrong.

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,”

“By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

” … air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”

“Harrison Brown … estimated that humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.”

“… in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

At least Doomsayers have learned to make their predictions for further into the future, like the year 2100, when no one hearing those warnings today will still be alive to laugh at them, as we’re now laughing at previous alarmists.

The one prediction that will almost certainly turn out to be correct is the one made by Ronald Bailey for the year 2030:

“There will be a disproportionately influential group of doomsters predicting that the future–and the present–never looked so bleak.” In other words, the hype, hysteria and spectacularly wrong apocalyptic predictions will continue, promoted by the virtue signalling “environmental grievance hustlers
By:
moisok
When: 25 Oct 19 16:57
I must stop providing you with evidence of the scam which props up so many careers and very healthy wealthy lifestyles and organisations by the dozen and be off to holland

sea yerse
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 25 Oct 19 16:57
Where is the evidence that man is responsible for the supposed climate change ?

And please dont use the numbers, graphs and scripted fairy tales jam packed full of nonsense by the confirmed scientific liars. We all know who pays their bills Crazy

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