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John
WTF are you on about. You fail all your science exams, you post garbage from right wing conspiracy websites & you don't have the scientific knowledge or experience to notice the BS on these sites. You keep saying "End of thread" , Do you really believe your irrelevant garbage you post means tens of thousands of intellect scientists with years of experience are all wrong & you gave "proved it". If you truly believe that John - then seek help . End of thread? |
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Moisok
Of course you are a liar. You posted loads of garbage about Polar bears & thermometers, we are just going over old ground. Do you actually believe you are telling the truth? |
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why did they say 'we thought there were only a few hundred left' it was all over the press
now its 22 - 31000 polar bears - even the WWF can't hide the growth ho ho don't you just get sick of the lies |
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why did they say 'we thought there were only a few hundred left' it was all over the press
Lying again? Give us a source. |
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Lol
The liar is still answering every question with the answer "wibble polar bear wibble bear" Come on "all over the press" - provide us with some links to this "story" Moisok. Why do you post lies? |
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when the investigators struck the locals turned round and said there's only few hundred left
arsenal have equalised |
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2 years ago
The polar bear was the poser child for climate change when the numbers were declining 06-10 ,not anymore the numbers have increased since and the polar bear has been forgotten about. They have survived in warmer conditions in the past , do some basic research alarmist propaganda. |
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polar bears can't adapt
polar bears can't survive without ice without ice there will be no polar bears these are all statements from many in the global warming inquisition WRONG ON EVERY ACCOUNT |
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Liar
You "forgot " to post a link to this story again, even though you claimed it was "all over the press" Why post lies ? Is this a global population is "a few hundred " or just the number in the town of "wibble " |
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20 37 post should not read
2 years ago |
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Moisok
Why are you still wittering on about bears. A primary school child understands more about the science of global warming than you do. Answering every question with "polar bear" is rather childish. |
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when I say it was all over the press I mean those who were interested - the rest blanked the story as the first was locals and the second was lies coz the number of bears was thousands more than said by the 'scientific community' and they didn't want it talked about.
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if you put polar bears in to a search - nearly all you get is predictions of dire consequences for the bears and it has been that way for decades
ALL PREDICTIONS no evidence apart from DIRE PREDICTIONS as the population continues to grow simples |
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Today, polar bears are among the few large carnivores that are still found in roughly their original habitat and range--and in some places, in roughly their natural numbers. Although most of the world's 19 populations have returned to healthy numbers, there are differences between them.
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Liar
Why did you post lies about the population being a few hundred & this was all over the press. As already mentioned thermometers (& satellites) are better at measuring than bears. A 5 year old understands that. |
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Report bitterly contested by scientists who say threat comes from climate change, which has pushed bears closer to humans – not because the population is growing
‘Inuit believe there are now so many bears that public safety has become a major concern,’ said one section of the report. Too many polar bears are roaming the Canadian Arctic, and the growing population is posing an increasing threat to Inuit communities, according to a controversial new government report which has been bitterly contested by environmental scientists. The draft report was prepared by the Nunavut government, and consists of submissions from Inuit community groups across Canada’s northernmost territory. Public consultations are set to start on Tuesday before the government unveils the final report later in the year. “Inuit believe there are now so many bears that public safety has become a major concern,” said one section of the report, according to the Canadian Press. “Public safety concerns, combined with the effects of polar bears on other species, suggest that in many Nunavut communities, the polar bear may have exceeded the coexistence threshold.” The renewed focus on polar bears comes after a tragic summer for the region: two people were killed by bears in separate attacks, including father Aaron Gibbons, who died protecting his children. Researchers agree that polar bears represent a growing threat to Inuit communities, but say that is because climate change has pushed them closer to human settlements – not because the bear population is growing. “There seems to be a divergence between scientists and Inuit on the threat that climate change poses to this species,” said Andrew Derocher, a polar bear researcher at the University of Alb But Inuit argue their own observations are often ignored, and the new report highlights a growing tension between scientific research and Inuit knowledge based on from thousands of years of living in the region. |
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Dr Susan Crawford would sort you lot of deniers out.
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The US Geological Survey estimated the global population of polar bears at 24,500 in 2005.6
In 2015, the IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group estimated the population at 26,000 (range 22,000–31,000)7 but additional surveys published 2015–2017 brought the total to near 28,500.8 However, data published in 2018 brought that number to almost 29,5009 with a relatively wide margin of error. This is the highest global estimate since the bears were protected by international treaty in 1973.10 While potential measurement error means it can only be said that the global population has likely been stable since 2005 (but may have increased slightly), it is far from the precipitous decline polar bear experts expected given summer sea ice levels as low as they have been in recent years.11 Between 2007 and 2015, summer sea ice on average dropped about 38% from 1979 levels, an abrupt decline to within measurement error of the reduced coverage expected to occur by mid-century (Figure 1).12 |
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Still no link to your lie about population being hundreds of bear.
Your last post suggests you realise you were posting lies. As already mentioned a thermometer or satellite is better at recording temperature than a bear. A 5 yet old understands that. Why post lies snowflake? |
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Ummmm
Since bears were protected. Oh so the population increased since people stopped shooting them. Interesting- and does that "prove " climate change is not happening? |
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Campaigners like Gore usually base their claims about 'vanishing' polar bears on observations of just one population. This well-studied group in Canada's western Hudson Bay did decline from 1,200 in 1987 to fewer than 950 in 2004.
But back in the early 1980s, the population numbered just 500. In other words, it's actually doubled over two decades. The much-publicised 'decline' depends on when you start counting. For the sake of peace, let's accept the idea that we should base our view of the world's entire polar bear population on the fluctuations in this one group. Let's even allow the problematic notion that we should start counting those bears at their height in 1987. Based on these assumptions, we are losing 15 bears a year to climate change. |
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Last year a Canadian polar bear specialist summed up the difference between the facts and the hype: "It is just silly to predict the demise of polar bears in 25 years based on media-assisted hysteria."
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Good posts proving moisok is a liar. Deliberately trying to confuse matters. Nobody said the world population of polar bears was down to hundreds. He can squirm and wriggle as he's trying to do but the fact remains he's lying.
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When you add in the fact that the population of polar bears proves fck all you should get the idea that moisok is full of sh!te.
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Ho, ho, ho.
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The liar is not admitting he is posting lies.
Still no link even though "all over tge press" and is now saying population in one small part of bear territory was almost a thousand. And of course bear population has almost nothing to do with global warming. Why post lies Moisok? Which of tge 3 basic points of the global warming theory do you disagree with Moisok? |
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The 2010 scare article from the Independent - how did that go
wonder if they have gone back to this nearly ten years later Polar bears in the Hudson Bay area of Canada are likely to die out in the next three decades, possibly sooner, as global warming melts more Arctic ice and thus reduces their hunting opportunities, according to Canadian biologists. The animals in western Hudson Bay, one of 19 discrete sub-populations of the species around the Arctic, are losing fat and body mass as their time on the floating sea ice gets shorter and shorter, according to the researchers from the University of Alberta. The sea ice is where the bears hunt ringed and bearded seals, their main prey, and they have to build up enough fat in the winter, when the ice is at its greatest, to get through the summer, when the ice retreats from the shoreline and the bears can find no food. But the ice has been melting earlier in the spring and forming later in the autumn, so that the bears are now spending on average three more weeks on land per year, without food, than they did three decades ago, the researchers say. As a consequence, their body weight in that time has dropped by 60lb, females have lost 10 per cent of their body length, and the west Hudson Bay population has declined from 1,200 animals to 900. If the decline in the sea ice continues – as predictions of global warming suggest it will – it is feared that the bears could die out in 25 to 30 years, or perhaps in as few as 10, if there are a succession of years with very low sea ice cover. The Hudson Bay group of bears is the second-most southerly population and might be expected to feel the effects of climate change early. The Arctic sea ice as a whole reached its lowest-ever recorded extent in September, 2007. In the last two years it has recovered, but it is once again declining rapidly this year. The dependency of the bears on the ice has long been known, and the animals have become an iconic species in terms of being used to promote awareness of global warming. But predictions of how long they may survive have until now been little more than educated guesses. The significance of the new study is that it is based on a mathematical model which matches the weight and energy-storing capacity of the bears, which are known – the west Hudson Bay animals are the most closely observed of all polar bear populations – against the annual ice shrinkage and the time they have to spend on land without food. Carried out by Professors Andrew Derocher and Mark Lewis, with graduate student Peter Molnar, it has been published in the journal Biological Conservation, and Professor Derocher talks about it at length in the current issue of Environment 360, the online environmental journal of Yale University in the US. "We understand very well things like how fat a bear has to be to produce a certain number of cubs, and we know a lot about how much energy these bears are burning during the period of time over the summer that they're forced ashore when the sea ice melts," Professor Derocher says. "And from there it's fairly easy to run various scenarios of sea ice change to look at when, basically, the bears' fat stores run out – and when that happens the bears, of course, subsequently die." He adds: "There's been a gradual decline in [the bears'] body condition that dates to the 1980s and we can now correlate that very nicely with the loss of sea ice in this ecosystem. And one of the things we found was that the changes that could come in this population could happen very dramatically, and a lot of the change could come within a single year, if you just ended up with an earlier melt of sea ice." |
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Snowflake
Why do you post so many lies on here. Why post the "all over the press" lie about bear population of a few hundred lie? Forget about bears Moisok- it is obvious you are not intelligent to stick to tge thread topic of global warming. You gave still failed to answer questions a 5 year old could answer or even attempt to answer the question on the original post. Why post lies Moisok? |
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I wonder what Moisok meant when he posted
The population has increased since they were protected? Woukd shooting bears effect the number of living bears? So has basically got f-all to do with climate change. |
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the false polar bear story has led the the climate warmers inquisition for decades and has been proved false
THAT IS THE POINT How much more of it is false? |
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where did I say the world population was down to hundreds
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you have clearly skimmed over all the evidence I have provided and it is still not enough for you
even your other prince of the inquisition went around bandying all sorts of low figures but still not enough for you like many religious people you follow what is given by your priest etc and swallow most of what they say that is fine but that can speak great dangers when people get hold of an idea and treat it as gospel I really feel sorry for you deniers. |
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You will find among several including Al Gore - that populations were down to the hundreds
but not good enough for your religion |
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Liar
You have posted f-all evidence about global warming. You have posted pages and pages of garbage about irrelevant polar bears. The theory of global warming has just about nothing to do with polar bears - think thermometer rather than bear. Even on your obsession- you haven't even bothered to think about how the bear population would be effected if people stopped shooting the,. Why post lies Moisok? |
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I challenge your religion and you hate it - the idea of even questioning you is anathema to you.
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they keep saying the bears will die out but they keep increasing in numbers
you are the liars and the deniers your poster boy bear scam no longer works |
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Moisok
where did I say the world population was down to hundreds Ummm maybe you should look at your post at 20:13 tonight. When asked repeatedly to provide a link you just started to post more irrelevant garbage. |
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Thermometers are used to measure temperature NOT Polar bears.
Why post lies Moisok? |