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By:
casemoney
When: 08 Sep 19 16:52
"There is a continual number of threads complaining about these two groups on here."

Why would that be Blue , I don't seem many anti semetic threads on here ???

Perhaps there is a reason such threads are put up ? I will leave you to ponder that

and Leave the thread ...
By:
casemoney
When: 08 Sep 19 16:56
In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[5]

A famous anecdote about Adolf Hitler's perspectives towards Islam and the Arabs is recounted by Albert Speer in his best-selling memoir, Inside the Third Reich. Speer reports that "Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of distinguished Arabs."[6] The delegation had speculated that the world would have become "Mohammedan" if the Umayyad Caliphate had won the Battle of Tours in the 8th Century AD, and that the Germans would have become heirs to "a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and in subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the German temperament."[7] Speer then presents Hitler's claims on this subject:

on Reading this I may not be a million miles Away Laugh
By:
casemoney
When: 08 Sep 19 16:57
I suppose that is another ATTACK Sad
By:
akabula
When: 08 Sep 19 17:03
It is not possible to justify the Holocaust in the way it is presented.

Struggling with this UBLE.
Are you saying it would have been acceptable if presented differently? I'm sure you're not but that's how it reads.
By:
akabula
When: 08 Sep 19 17:07
Independence is inevitable ..just a matter of when.

So is bankruptcy. The SNP slowly but surely metamorphosing into a Scottish version of Sinn Fein.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 08 Sep 19 17:24
Struggling with this UBLE.
Are you saying it would have been acceptable if presented differently? I'm sure you're not but that's how it reads.


No..a bad choice of words akabula
By:
akabula
When: 08 Sep 19 17:31
Thought as much tbh.
By:
Steve Voltage
When: 08 Sep 19 20:13

UBLE/REGY 08 Sep 19 16:43 Joined: 11 Mar 10 | Topic/replies: 2,783 | Blogger: UBLE/REGY's blog
Steve Voltage I am sorry this thread has on course off course, but it does highlight one problem

The majority immigrants today seem to be Muslims or Blacks.

There is a continual number of threads complaining about these two groups on here.

If we go back to pre WW11, the majority immigrant groups were Jews and the Irish.

So the same thing happened, complaints against immigrants, even though they were different immigrants

It is a human condition societies tend to resent immigrants.

Does this explain the Jewish problem, they have always been immigrants everywhere, as they did not have a country of their own at that

time.

Or is there a special problem with the Jews, steve, I really don't know?


Well the part played by the immigrants never really seems to discussed. They are always the ‘victims’ and nothing more.

Human beings are still often described as being tribal hence the never ending racial problems. I suspect most people feel more comfortable being around people they can associate themselves with. As we know all races of people are racist.
It seems we are forbidden at times to be able to even discuss the negative impact immigration can cause. Has Irish immigration to the UK had any negative impact? Maybe. Did Jewish immigration to Europe have any negative impact on the host nations?
It seems strange that there was so a huge ill feeling towards the people of Jewish faith in Europe and Russia for hundreds of years. What was the cause of the ill feeling.

The BBC series ‘The Story of the Jews’ presented by Simon Schama is well worth a watch if this subject is of any interest.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 08 Sep 19 22:08
Simon Schama..a very nice and well educated man...and a Jew, he would defend the Jews I would think?

If it comes on again I will watch it Steve

Unfortunately I have sympathy with the Palestinians so Jews will not like me very much..

Although I have nothing against Jews on a personal level....I think Palestine belongs to the Palestinians not Jews very unfortunate

but there you are.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 08 Sep 19 22:10
ps I am not a terrorist or anything...my protests are peaceful

and nobody has to agree with me, their choice
By:
akabula
When: 08 Sep 19 22:23
One of the most shocking things I've ever heard was from the last few years in that area.
A Palestinian boy aged 16 murdered a 12 year old Jew but was then shot dead himself.
Horrible as it was the real horror was the 16 yos mother declaring him a hero and saying she was proud of him.
That's some hatred. Won't be an isolated case as that level of hatred is on both sides.
Doubt there will ever be a solution. Not the only place in the world in that situation though.
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Sep 19 13:26
UBLE/REGY
Simon Schama..a very nice and well educated man...and a Jew, he would defend the Jews I would think?
If it comes on again I will watch it Steve
Unfortunately I have sympathy with the Palestinians so Jews will not like me very much..
Although I have nothing against Jews on a personal level....I think Palestine belongs to the Palestinians not Jews very unfortunate
but there you are.

Said this before to you, you do realise that if Israel had lost the 1948 war there still would have been no Palestine then or now, or is that something you just choose to ignore because it suits your'e agenda.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 09 Sep 19 13:31
That's interesting Pump. What would have happened if Israel had lost the 1948 war? Would the land have been absorbed by Syria and/or Egypt or Jordan?
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Sep 19 17:18
100% correct Nick
By:
The Leopard
When: 09 Sep 19 21:16
Part II on...can restart in iplayer ...doing that now
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 09 Sep 19 21:41
Who knows pumphol it did not happen???


The other country you mention you mentioned in you post I do not recognise

I only recognise Palestine...still you are not going to change..and neither am I

It is only a war of words on here  nobody gets hurt
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Sep 19 21:46
Correct it did not happen, luckily, you're just have to live with that.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 09 Sep 19 22:06
Fair enough pumphol
By:
The Leopard
When: 09 Sep 19 22:10
SS had orange shirts.....how naff !
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