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By:
tobermory
When: 11 Aug 19 19:57
If randomly searching people is such a great idea because you will find a few guilty ones why not extend it to other serious crimes ?

If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 11 Aug 19 19:57
Denzil

I am not really in favour of the Police having vast stop and search powers but society is getting worse for ordinary people. There is now a class that operates below the Law. They seem untouchable. Should they go to prison they will be meeting up with their mates. These people are bloodsuckers destroying our society.

I believe many knife killings occur just after school ends for 2 or 3 hours. I think that would be a great time to stop and search people even kids for knives. I don't think it will solve the problem but it might give some comfort to parents who want their kids to come home from school safely.

You and me have more in common and these scum are enemies of us both! Black white brown musso's I don't care. I want scum off the street.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 11 Aug 19 19:59
If randomly searching people is such a great idea because you will find a few guilty ones why not extend it to other serious crimes ?

If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?


Good point. If they can produce cookies and trackers to find out what type of tooth paste we use and who we vote for why not use the technology!

and the Financial criminals and Tax Dodgers!
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Aug 19 20:17
never ending more well off rich people likely to be avoidinmg tax lets hound the cooonts
lets empty all traveller site,turn over gypo caravans looking for stolen gear
lets profile every football fan looking for racist chanting
lets stage nightly wildcat searches turning over middle,upper class homes in London looking for cocaine,starting at mr gove,s and sarah vines 7 nights a week on the hour every hour we,ll get a tickle eventually,
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Aug 19 20:18
If most people with paedo porn are middle aged white blokes then why not randomly search the computers of people with this profile ? For every 100 they check perhaps 2 or 3 will be found to be paedos, and so then it will all be worthwhile ?

They already track those white paedo types online through age/gender related profiling.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 11 Aug 19 20:19
Are they on the case of the Windsor choirmaster?
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Aug 19 20:22
Suspect you mean a banned forumite,if he's been at it online they'll have had him in there are vigilante mobs all over the country working with police and there tech.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 11 Aug 19 20:23
I told him earlier I'd been doing the peedo bait thing and he logged out.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Aug 19 20:27
Found it
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 11 Aug 19 20:31
Would love to see the old SPG smashing in the doors at wealthy middle class dinner parties looking for white powder.
By:
Ramruma
When: 11 Aug 19 20:45

Aug 11, 2019 -- 8:31PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


Would love to see the old SPG smashing in the doors at wealthy middle class dinner parties looking for white powder.


Given our esteemed prime minister claims to have tried snorting, erm, icing sugar, it may be a while before you get your wish.

By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 11 Aug 19 21:25
For every black person the police stop and search for knives..

they should stop and search one white old age pensioner as well

Those 80 year old grannies are devils for concealing knives about their person
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 11 Aug 19 21:27
Then there is no discrimination????
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 11 Aug 19 21:28
An unpleasant task when they've applied the lily of the valley perfume somewhat too liberally.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 11 Aug 19 21:43
Shocked I should think so MouseLaugh

But we cannot have discrimination!
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 11 Aug 19 21:46
Search all Ministers of the Church as well

They may not have a knife but could be sneaking off with the lead from the Church roof.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 11 Aug 19 21:49
When you see a priest at a sporting event he's 1.01 to have some form of courtsiding device concealed in his vestments.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 11 Aug 19 21:51
Just rememberLiam Byrnes words whisperingbobharris , THERE IS NO MONEY LEFT. LABOUR left no options but cost cutting ,the police was probably the wrong choice but when THERE IS NO MONEY LEFT, difficult choices have to be made.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 11 Aug 19 21:56
courtsiding mouseLaugh

The Tories have been in for a bit now flushgordon, they cannot go on using that excuse for ever?
By:
flushgordon1
When: 11 Aug 19 21:59
They generally have to come in and fix Labour fook ups ,the coalition and mad may were not a sucess to be fair.
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Aug 19 22:06
Dianne is starting to sound like Winnie Mandela
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Aug 19 22:22
I am pretty sure they will not be stopping little old black ladies
By:
lfc1971
When: 11 Aug 19 22:23
It’s the hoodies !
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 11 Aug 19 22:55
It seems young black youths are both the most common perpetrators and the victims of this...

But nothing can be done, a pitySad
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 11 Aug 19 23:44
So tobermory is all for stabbing, what world does he live in ?
By:
tobermory
When: 12 Aug 19 00:13
There are lots of things that would  reduce stabbings and other crimes by reducing the liberty of everyone.....

10PM curfew for everyone, except those with special permission from the government, to be enforced by the military with a shoot to kill policy.

There would be fewer murders, robberies etc. Are people in favour of that ? If not, are they in favour of murders and robberies ?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 12 Aug 19 00:52
Laugh tobemory v good

I like the shoot to kill
By:
tobermory
When: 12 Aug 19 01:06
FWIW I do think we are too soft on criminals.

When you see the post trial reports on these gang murderers there is always a long list of previous convictions for violence and very little jail time had been served. If they were locked up for mugging etc they would not be on the streets to do the stabbings.

Anyone using a knife in a mugging, even if they don't stab anyone, should be charged with armed robbery the same as if they did it in a bank, so 7+ years sentence.

The prison capacity is too small but it costs a lot to expand it.

My issue with stop and search is that no one should be treated like a suspect unless they have done something to warrant it.
By:
detraveller
When: 12 Aug 19 01:40
I wonder if the police will keep a record of the racial details of people they stop and search. They will have to, since not making the minorities feel suppressed is basically a big agenda today.

What'll be more amusing is if they get a quota they have to fulfill. Such as stop and search 1 white man for every 2 non-white?
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Aug 19 01:53
They should make public the racial stats for knifings,shootings,robberies etc. and if there are any patterns pertaining to targets/victims and use that information for a more thorough evidence based targeted stop and search system,instead of playing the fake race hate game if they GENUINELY want to stop those young kids killing eachother and running the streets.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Aug 19 02:01
They've been doing what they did in the US from the 80s onwards (until the Hispanic millitants changed the game),they gave them drugs and weapons and allowed them to get on with it instead of enforcing the actual law.
Now we're hearing all the same cries of woe in London as were  being pumped out in South Central LA 20 odd years ago Stevie Wonder could've seen this coming.
From tupac Changes;

I see no changes wake up in the morning and I ask myself
Is life worth living should I blast myself?
I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black
My stomach hurts so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch
Cops give a damn about a negro
Pull the trigger kill a nigga he's a hero

Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares
One less hungry mouth on the welfare
First ship 'em dope and let 'em deal the brothers
Give 'em guns step back watch 'em kill each other

It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
Two shots in the dark now Huey's dead
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Aug 19 02:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkC2VYkA2UA

This documentary is from years ago to prove they know what's been going on for years,how it's been developing and in my opinion the deliberate failures of the government to ensure it's continuation.
By:
1st time poster
When: 12 Aug 19 06:01
once you,ve through out the unsuitables, failures, leavers etc,etc to think there,s a pool 0f 100,000 under 40,s begging to be allowed the chance of working in the police,prisons in most cases working for private companies g4s etc on shoite money,conditions etc ,shows how out of touch mp,s are in todays world,
for the majority of people theres not enough money in the world for them to even consider working in the police,prison system
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 12 Aug 19 06:14
I have heard most of th3 stabb8ngs occur between 4 and 8pm

A 10 o clock curfew would not be of much benefit!

And the point is the Government does not know what i5 is doin* with law and order. It has cut 20,000 Police Officers!

It is doin* nothing to change the failed and out dated drug laws.

Legalising drugs needs to be tried.

The BJ is dog whistling in preparation for the up coming General Election!

Black people are th3 ones who should be demanding stop and search!
By:
Injera
When: 12 Aug 19 16:53
tobemory: My issue with stop and search is that no one should be treated like a suspect unless they have done something to warrant it.


What about airport security? We're all treated like convicts.
By:
detraveller
When: 12 Aug 19 22:09
The moment any police stops you, you are treated as a suspect. This is a necessity. If they are searching you for a knife, in what world would they go about it with the assumption that you don't have it on you? They have to be ready to defend themselves. So you are treated as a criminal, until you show that you aren't armed.

I shared my own story a few months back where I was held on the street at night, arms above my head for about 10 min, because the police thought I was armed and won't come near me. When I complained to the police about it the next day, I was told this is normal as it has to be assumed that you are armed. This is why no one would come near me, until 6 backup guys had arrived.

So its a part of the process and the reason why stop and search cannot be popular. Boris is a temporary PM and it is quite possible they are implementing it to prove it won't work, as a result allowing the police to continue to be powerless in the long run.

I will also be surprised if any police officer is looking forward to being a part of this. You'd need balls of steel and military backup to try this in London.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Aug 19 22:13
I will also be surprised if any police officer is looking forward to being a part of this. You'd need balls of steel and military backup to try this in London.

Agree dt I posted on the other S+S thread that the police are employing the wrong types as the ones I know are there as a good long term career prospect with for all the good things this entails and are not hardened capable men who want to deal with scumbags.
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Aug 19 22:38
Need a special Division  to deal with our Drug and Knifemen . Ex army the Job imo .

Portable Security Arch , Empty your pockets and walk through that, No Beep you retrieve your posessions your on your way .

Hidden weapons , Fooked into the back of a van  and Down to a special holding Center to be dealt with , New Laws regarding

Knifes ,Fast track  3 months  , JOB DONE  2nd offence a Year 3rd ,5 years ...  JOB DONE ..
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 12 Aug 19 23:30
I once finished work early when I was an apprentice engineer so I could go on the train to watch Aston villa v utd when I got off the train.the police searched me .they said they were looking for knives .I said I know I'm a bit dark and my hairs long  but I'm no red indian
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