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1st time poster
When: 09 Aug 19 21:10
are these the generators that will power our world leading giant battery chargers to keep millions of electric cars on the move within 10 years

boris was supposed to bring the country to iots kmnees on nov 1st but as his many mistresses can confirm ,he always comes early, Laugh
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 09 Aug 19 21:10
Had a power cut here in Zummerzet a few years back which Western Power claimed was down to a bird of prey dropping a rabbit on overhead lines.
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Aug 19 21:13
Interesting, I'd previously assumed that the generators would all generate at whatever frequency they wanted then it would be cleaned up and synchronised somewhere during distribution (although that would probably lead to power loss) but my reading of this is they are all generated to the correct frequency at source:
https://www.drax.com/energy-policy/need-whole-country-frequency/
I'd be surprised that was even possible back in the day like the 20s-30s? Maybe they did it the mucky way then.
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Aug 19 21:14
" Western Power claimed was down to a bird of prey dropping a rabbit on overhead lines."
How do they know it was a bird of prey? How do they know it wasn't practicing a cross channel flight attempt?
By:
Angoose
When: 09 Aug 19 21:22
It phoned in to report it.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 09 Aug 19 21:29
Stupid post to connect this to boris, ffs are you really that triggered ?

Generators have the same protection and have to output at 50hz, if they dont they switch off.

Generators have to sync into the grid, ie frequency/volts. Generators are mainly used for the demand of less than 2mva (a small village) and for back up to keep lv supplies on.

For a frequency to fall like it did today is either a power station going down or 400kv power line going down. Or some sort of supply going off.
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Aug 19 22:12
Must have been some very worried People stuck on the Tube Shocked They would not have been thinking Power Cut ..

Lord knows what the Temp must have reached Plain
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 09 Aug 19 22:19
My brother was there yesterday standing 6 people deep to get on the tube wouldn't be me.
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Aug 19 22:23
Wrong People beside you on Carriage can add to the Atmosphere
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Aug 19 22:30
Amazing to think the original tube trains were steam and pumped smoke out into the tunnel (and your carriage).
That would really help the atmosphere on a sweltering day!
Thank god this was pre global warming and the hottest it got in summer was a balmy 13C.
By:
GEESUSS
When: 09 Aug 19 22:42
I've just written a song called 'Yesterday', it's a classic, I swear, and I've got plenty more.......................................
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 09 Aug 19 23:33
It's like 'The Day the Earth Stood Still'.
By:
Just Checking
When: 10 Aug 19 01:32
It just came back to me people with small scale generation schemes (small scale hydro, solar etc) can sell energy back into the grid if they aren't using it. Also I've read reports that they might use cars sitting on charge as temporary grid supply sources, like a distributed battery network, when demand is high. Fair enough. But that'll be DC or unsynced AC. So there must already have standard power efficient ways of resyncing back to the standard 50hz in an acceptable manner. (Just thinking out loud about my query earlier I suppose .. I've read too much brassneck tonight and I'm becoming like him :)) My theory "all generation doesn't have to be synced at source" stands :)
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 10 Aug 19 06:51
Fine here in Chester, the lack of Cannabis farms in the area helps imo.Happy
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 10 Aug 19 08:01
"Turbans produce no electrical output"

You must be Sikh with a comment like that!

Re the dropping of this rabbit by an Eagle...was this witnessed?

It must have been a hell of a big rabbit, to bring down a power line, as the only way to knock out the power,
is for either the line to be down, or otherwise for a connection between two lines!
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 10 Aug 19 09:36
Delays, cancellations and widespread disruption at London railway terminals but it was two hours before anyone noticed the difference.
By:
1st time poster
When: 10 Aug 19 10:08
2 generators in 2 different locations going down independently with neither effecting the performance or lack of it of the other,good luck in holding that line
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 Aug 19 10:13
The only answer i can think of is that the first power station went down causing a dip in the frequency (50hz) and the 2nd power station (wind farm) had incorrect protection settings and saw the dip in frequency as a local fault rather than a grid fault and tripped (turned off).
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 10 Aug 19 10:43
I see the bosses are now saying
"Its a extremely rare event"

Really
What a million to one odds?


I await the next failure courtesy of wind POWER


Shocked
By:
The Leopard
When: 10 Aug 19 10:50
PUTIN's hackers trying to destabilise UK !
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 10 Aug 19 10:56
To be fair to Western Power, they were actually referring to an ongoing series of power cuts in Somerset, which they claimed were due to birds of prey persistently dropping rabbits on overhead power lines (plural). Not necessarily high voltage cables either - this is rural Somerset we're talking about, where nearly all the cables, even to individual houses, are overground.

Also, this was thirty-plus years ago. Maybe rabbits have shrunk since then. Owing to global warming, obviously.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 11 Aug 19 17:25
I've just written a song called 'Yesterday', it's a classic, I swear, and I've got plenty more.......................................

Just saw Yesterday at the cinema yesterday as it happens. Bloody good film with a real Danny Boyle feel good factor!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 11 Aug 19 17:28
The trouble is who do we believe and how do we believe them.

I am not saying it is Russia or China testing us but nobody wants to take responsibility. I think it is a really serious situation that we need to know about and further the Authorities need to be able to take action. I pity the poor people stranded at Kings cross at 5pm on a Friday!
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 16 Aug 19 18:16
Seems the cause was a LIGHTING strike

Should have used bigger POLES

Laugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 16 Aug 19 18:27
Most of the Poles have gone back. The Romanians are still here though!
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