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07 Aug 19
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Comedian Lloyd Griffith wins thousands on the tennis by courtsiding only to see the following day his maximum bets servely capped by Bet 3.65
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Court in the act was he?
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He won't be capped on here
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bet365 cap anyone who can read....paddy power not much bettet
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They don't want you to win.
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Another one next Monday at 8.30, Panorama on problem gambling - I wonder if they will highlight the problem of not being able to get a bet on?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007m0t |
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so he was basically tring to cheat the bookies ?
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trying
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Yes; it was a racket.
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don't blame Bet 365 for banning cheats
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Is it cheating?
I don't do it, I don't bet on tennis |
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He was extremely foolish going on camera showing his courtsiding methods.
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the bookies will end up losing as a result every single time ....so it is unfair on them ....certainly unfair on trading sites like this and it just leads to annoying slower countdowns as well as hoovering up funds from genuine punters .
its like having to lock your bike and door etc because folk can't be trusted not to steal |
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it's illegal in Australia
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The procedure takes place when a spectator at a sporting event passes on, or uses, information which leads to bets being placed on 'in-game markets' before the bookmakers receive the information, and change the odds due to the in-play happening.
It has been claimed that courtsiding was illegal in Victoria, Australia, in 2013; with it comes a prison sentence of up to 10 years under the Integrity In Sports Act. It had been alleged to be an offence under the Gambling Act 2005. Chris Eaton opined, that match fixers had turned to courtsiding due to it being "easier to accomplish". The UK Gambling Commission, however, have subsequently confirmed that courtsiding is not considered an offence in the UK. Craig Tiley, CEO of Tennis Australia, later said that it could "arguably could be illegal, maybe some cases legal", and the chairman and CEO of the tour said that he felt it was not a major issue. At the 2013 Australian Open, there was a case of courtsiding, but the necessary legislation needed in order to commit an arrest was not in place. The first arrest for courtsiding was at the 2014 Australian Open when a 22-year-old British man, Daniel Dobson, allegedly had an electronic device sewn into his shorts, in order to relay scores to a syndicate.Dobson's employers, Sporting Data, denied any involvement in illegal betting or any other illegal activity, issuing a statement that condemned Dobson's arrest as a "grossly unfair accusation".The case was withdrawn on the 6 March 2014. The England and Wales Cricket Board released the fact that in summer 2013 there were 23 people ejected for what was believed to be courtsiding. At the 2016 US Open, 20 spectators were caught courtsiding and were placed under bans that prohibited them from attending the tournament for 20 years; one of the individuals kicked out in 2016 was arrested for trespassing after being spotted at the tournament in 2017. |
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I remember watching Wimbledon tennis a few years ago, and the camera zoomed in on a group of people with laptops open.
The commentator congratulated them on continuing their studies whilst watching the tennis! Oh dear lol. |
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Does this apply to other sports...say a person is watching a football match live..do they have a similar advantage?
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Don't know REGY probably not much would think they'd have more effective delays given the size of the football markets,never know might be different down the divisions but betting options and liquidity will also be limited I'd suspect.
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Do many people win at gambling I never have my bets are recreational, the best system I have had was one if the first I ever used back in the 80s my Saturday best 3 horses double up after a loss
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Tennis is particularly interesting due to the scoring system that ensures that the favourite can switch back and forth multiple times in the same game, point by point. Each point can be over in seconds.
The scary thing is how far behind live the pictures you have at home can be. Live tennis on Amazon Prime can be 30-45 seconds behind  |
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Not a problem when it comes to horse racing
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What if you knew the leader, ten lengths clear, had fallen at the last five seconds before the rest of the world ?
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Some people do they are at the track with fast connection into betfair before that it was the fast picture shop I even attended the one at Newcastle not that it done me much good but some people where making thousands a day
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A pal of mine had his son programme a voice activated programme that beat the speed of typing in a bet or a lay bet. I cant compete with that and stop trying.
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looked like they were lining up bets on game point, and hitting submit when point was won, and before
umpire confirmed point into scoreboard, .....so bookies were suspending on scoreboard? not too difficult for bookie to spot that and suspend or restrict account. courtsider will be a marked man, unless they used an actor to play the part. |
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i don't think that bloke went to RADA somehow
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He seemed very nervy and shaky. Maybe it was a medical condition.
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could easily be one of the students that he bought accounts from, in front of camera.
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hair long/greasy enough
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In general, the show was a lightweight effort and somewhat disjointed.
The good work was done by the researchers in tracking down the contributors who were prepared to appear on camera. It was disappointing to learn that the "bet on jockeys wearing pink" system doesn't work. The courtsider section was interesting, the story of the umpire who needed to log in for each point was hilarious. |
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Why can't Amazon make a proper sports channel on the Sky menu, then there would be no problem?
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I agree with Angoose.
I also thought the closing comments were wise words ie that you will lose unless you're Tony Bloom or that other guy who had 44 researchers working for him or you're prepared to put in hours and hours of study every day. |
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pretty much value betting,they are using all those resources looking for prices that are out of line,with their expenses the bets they put on must be massive and surprised they can still get on with any bookmaker worldwide the amount they need to win to make the profit they do
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I believe that the footy matches Amazon have the rights to are going to be available on BT Sport's platform (presumably for an extra fee) so there may not be the massive delays that there is with streaming over the internet. I'm not sure if the same will apply to the ATP tennis rights that they have though.
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I can tell when someone is going to miss a penalty
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not always of course, but often enough
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/07/30/amazon-prime-video-join-forces-bt-sport-allow-premier-league/
This article suggests that Amazon content will be available via BT Sports but only in pubs. |