Yes they will try to get a vote through that prevents us leaving first. I don't know how feasible that is. My comments on this thread are about the hypothetical scenario where that method has failed and a NC vote followed by a Remain Coalition is the last option they have.

But honestly it's unlikely imo we reach this point going that way of a vote of no confidence. A vote of no confidence is basically the nuclear option, the majority of likely Tory rebels will be reluctant to vote against their own party, I imagine we would only get there if Boris tried to shut down or bypass parliament in some way.

It's far more likely parliament will try to legislate what Boris has to do, the numbers are far more likely to be there for this from the off, especially as even in Tories I imagine there is a bunch of MPs who probably want Brexit but not no deal (not clear if those types will join the rebels though).

Also unless Boris' government is in its own world they will see these things coming and not just fall into the blatant trap anyway and seek to do something else themselves, it's much better for him if he's taking control of the situation some way than letting it reach a point of parliament dictating to him.

Brexit in general has hurt Corbyn. The funny thing about the Brexit aftermath is Tories screwing up Brexit is likely to be good for Corbyn, Lib Dems etc., but they can't be seen to have facilitated the screw up or they will be finished themselves. It's been obvious to me for ages that really Corbyn just wishes Brexit would disappear so they could move on to something else where he thinks Labour have a good advantage over the Conservatives.

Made worse really by Boris has basically boxed himself into oblivion already. He's "definitely leaving by the 31st October" so if he doesn't deliver on that he will pay for it, he's definitely not bringing back same deal with the backstop so if he does that he will pay for it, and playing up getting a new deal, but this truly is the definition of bluster, there is no time to do this. It would take months at best to do this with the EU even if there was a will, and there's no signs of such negotiations even starting yet, and it would take like 6 weeks to pass through parliament and all the required legislation attached, taking you way past October 31st.

That leaves then trying to take us out with no deal on October 31st, something clearly going to be opposed heavily by all sorts, there's very likely to be a majority in parliament against, you're also likely to face all sorts of legal challenges, and the risks here are quite obvious, that you wouldn't even be around to govern by October 31st anyway. On top of all that you also have to assume that Boris actually wants to take us out with no deal going against all the advice he will getting. I'd love to know how many MPs truly think you'd make a success of no deal, because I reckon it's probably under 50 in reality.

Even the GE option, surely Boris would have to call one soon, you'd have to think any GE held after Oct 31st will be used heavily against him. The problem though is what are the Conservatives going to campaign on anyway? It's a pretty tough sell if the GE is in October to say we're gonna negotiate a great new deal in 2 weeks and leave on October 31st. So by logic (not that I think these things are necessarily done by logic) you basically have to run on a no deal platform?

I should like to ask everyone which MP they voted for , and with probably the most important Decision the UK has ever made LOOMING , would you have expected them to go on holiday for 6 weeks ?

Correct dambuster

so behind closed this is what is being said in my opinion"of course we cant leave it would be catastrophic consequences,we made a balls up,so we need to pretend that we are doing everything in our power to leave,we must satisfy the electorate that we have left,but we can hoodwink them into thinking that we did leave but the law courts said we must have a second referendum,and we must get the vote to stay in Europe this time""

So far Brexit has been delayed. If it is revoked the trouble will start.

You tell people it's a democracy ; you want something to happen you just vote for it. When you can't tell people that anymore then anything goes.

He's not threatening violence. You are dishonestly misrepresenting what he said and getting hysterical about it, how very "remoaner".

"you would see an uprising of violence like never before."

"He's not threatening violence."

rofl

Is Corbyn the only one that can call a vote of no confidence?

Of what?

I want Boris to actually go for no deal, as that's the road to Brexit not happening.

I agree with just checking, so would blind Pugh.

Just what exactly are these people gonna do? I mean there's been no real evidence of any strong leave parade full stop, look how poorly attended the leave means leave rallies were. There's probably more people causing trouble at Tommy Robinson related events than would over Brexit.

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Isn't that the whole point of Brexit that things will not carry on as before