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suck it up - says Cummings
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Too late too stop a 3rd runway unless Boz places his bulk in front of the bulldozers.
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No deal is what we want.
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they were warned! Even i told them on here to get a shift on
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The Remainers have the votes to bring Boris down.
To stop No Deal before Oct 31 they would have to form a government. Very difficult, but if they are sincere in their statements that stopping No Deal is way bigger than party politics then it can be done. |
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Who will stop the migrants from going to britain if its a no deal.?And a lot of African people will be moving because of global warming also,and 50 million Turkish people want to live in England,The EU have stopped them so far,but after a no deal it will be a case of "if you want to go to britain move along please ,you can not stay in this country"and then the 50 million Turks + 50 million African people + the 10 million migrants from war zones will be able to move to the shores of Britain without being stopped.a DOOMS DAY SCENARIO."its difficult to see the EU stopping them and housing them when they want to go to Britain.
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no chance of bringing the Government down; & you can quote me
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the Queen can take the government down if the people wish it,and she can send the army in to govern
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John Pym will kick them out, Brassy
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SontaranStratagem will be sitting in his armchair devising a strategy to bring the entire house down by force.
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Tobes: the all know which side their breads buttered
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Surely there are enough Tory kamikaze remainers to defeat Boris in a confidence vote when a vote for the government would be a vote for no deal Brexit
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they may be kamikaze now, but that won't last. As for Grieve he's already on dodgy ground with his constituents. Deselection will be getting whispered in many a remainers ear
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Norman St John Stevas was at one time the brother-in-law of Terence Alexander.
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The point is people like Grieve have staked their whole careers on stopping No Deal. Voting against the government on a confidence vote means they automatically lose the whip and cease to be Tory MPs, so deselection is not an issue. They would vote Boris down and then cross the floor and stand as Lib Dems at the next GE.
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evening EK.
it used to be "Siberian Salt Mines" that got whispered into dissenters ears. Over here it's "nine to five" |
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they still have to face their constituents, family friends etc. They won't do it. Not a chance
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Dolly Parton is a scary woman.
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that's even if there was enough time; which there isn't
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Maybe one, just one, will evolve a pear?
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Well Bap I guess you've not paid much attention to what the likes of Grieve have been saying. They are not bothered in the least about local party members. They are not scared of deselection. I have no doubt at all they could bring Boris down. The difficult but would be forming a replacement government.
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The family friends of people like Grieve and Hammond will all likely be militant remainers.
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And they have a grievance.
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And, dare I say, a Hammondance.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn2PNlhvy8E
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Grieve can rant & rave all he wants; i'd have kicked him out months ago. And as i said earlier, you can quote me; It isn't going to happen. Do you really think it's only the nutjob remainers that have plans? Do you think that all avenues haven't been covered?
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Hi Bap.
What did you make of the Brecon by-election result? Are you concerned that the Brexit Party will split the vote? 31st anniversary of Rush Limbaugh's radio career this week. He made good points about the Dems' debate on Fox. They don't want to engage with any moderates. |
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not really, EK the Lib Dems & Labour are doing the same. As fro the Brecon result, immaterial
would be interesting to see Nigel sat next to Bozo though  |
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I'd like to see them jointly host a BBQ to determine once and for all which was the alpha.
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They will all waffle for a few weeks when they come back from holidays and then someone will propose to have a vote on having another meaningful vote ,and that should kill a few more weeks of time 'before they ask for an extension in time until after the Christmas Holidays,and then when they come back from the Christmas Holidays another meaningful vote should take them up to the Easter Holidays.
 i think i will go for over 3.5 meaningful votes +extra time. |
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Brassy: even if Bozo lost a vote of N/C (not going to happen) he would delay the the GE until after the 31st Oct. So either way were oot; unless of course a deal is done
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If they lose a confidence vote there is not an automatic general election. There is first a 14 day period to see if the vote can be reversed or if some other leader can form a government.
So the Remainers could actually form a government of their own before October 31st. Corbyn would be asked to stand aside and make way for Starmer or someone like that. Corbyn would not be having that and would prefer No Deal so it would likely fall though. |
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so it can't be done; end of. And who said there was an "automatic GE"? I said he would delay it even if the N/C happened. If you think a new Government could be formed in that time you've read too many comic books
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A government could be formed in hours. They would have 2 weeks.
The Remainers would have the simple choice of uniting and forming a coalition or letting No Deal happen. People like Hammond and Ken Clarke would have to agree to support Corbyn as PM or JC would have to agree to step aside for a Labour colleague more palatable to Tory remainers. Where it will likely fall down is with the fact that Corbyn does not give a fk about Remain and is fine with No Deal. The Tory Remainers are not going to back down though, so the numbers are ostensibly there. In any case, before all this the remainers will be trying various parliamentary vote ruses to block No Deal, with a lot of help form Mr Speaker. |
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I would imagine in a hypothetical government of national unity the "leader" would be from neither Conservatives or Labour for that exact reason.
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No way is Corbyn making way for Jo Swinson. He would prefer to let No Deal happen and move on the the GE. The 'blame' for No Deal would then be placed on the Tory Remainers and Lib Dems who refused to support him as PM.
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I imagine they are much more likely to legislate against no deal btw than go down the road of both voting no confidence in their own government and then forming some fantasy government which it's not even clearly really exists. It will be much more palatable for Tories to do this.
Also it has to assume Boris will actually go for no deal, believing what Boris says is a mugs game. There's a clear argument to say Boris wants to stay in power and going for no deal is the road to the exit door in no time. I imagine there probably is weight in the idea that Boris will call an election if the polls look favourable, but it's a monumental gamble and there's bound to be loads of Conservatives not on board with it (especially those who would just be voting themselves out of parliament). |
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I don't buy for a second Corbyn would rather let no deal happen. He would be totally finished if he'd allowed no deal to happen in the methodology you've listed. Lib Dems would support him as PM in that scenario anyway, the problem will be the Tory rebels. You wouldn't expect a government of national unity to be led by the leader of the opposition anyway, as the idea is it goes above party politics which having the Labour leader as leader wouldn't really suggest.
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Also it wouldn't actually play out like that anyway. So you had a vote of no confidence when exactly is this, sometime before October 31st but close enough that no deal just happens in the 14 day period/GE campaign. There is no way whoever took over temporarily would allow the country to just leave on no deal with no government in place, an extension would be requested and almost certainly granted until after the GE minimum.
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Labour table a motion of no confidence, Hammond, Grieve etc all support it, Boris must resign.