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brassneck
24 Jul 19 23:31
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He should know that when a PM makes a statement that the financial markets are very case sensitive to the statement,regardless of  the statement being  filibuster of not.
i am sure his advisers will tell him to tone it down but talking up a no deal could cost serious unemployment  regardless of it being spin or not.
finance companies are likely to pack up leave London and head for Europe.IMVHO.

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By:
Torquemada
When: 24 Jul 19 23:33
Not when he cuts corporation tax they won’t. Frankfurt and Paris cannot compete if Boris decides to play hard ball.
By:
Just Checking
When: 24 Jul 19 23:36
I very much doubt companies are going to pack up and leave to Europe in the next 99 days on the off chance there might be a No Deal.
By:
Torquemada
When: 24 Jul 19 23:52
The EU’s finances are absolutely fooked. All Boris has to do is apply a little pressure by offering sweetheart deals to the big boys and they will roll over. The EU simply cannot compete, their finances are way too stretched already.
By:
brassneck
When: 24 Jul 19 23:56
first day of Winter NO DEAL?The country would come to a stand still,if it not in a stand still from bad weather,6 to 7 weeks to christmas,no internet,no food,no medicine,no petrol,no nothing,and perhaps no job,no heating, riots,mayhem,and a thousand other no's.
if you go for a no deal you be prepared,and boris is going for an election,but talking up a no deal can do as much damage as a no deal itself in financial terms.
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 00:00
Not true. There is no such thing as no deal. We would just revert to WTO rules. Threatening no medicine, no internet etc is simply risible scaremongering.
By:
anxious
When: 25 Jul 19 00:03
to leave should be respected , but not give way way to a  free market  tory brexit
By:
anxious
When: 25 Jul 19 00:06
For many on the left we oppose the German led banks which to create a United States of Europe , the left oppose the European and British captilast
By:
anxious
When: 25 Jul 19 00:07
The re nationalisation of the rip of utilities would be a priority of the next Labour Government
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 19 00:07
You could be right Torque, this FT report is full of gloom about the German economy.

https://www.ft.com/content/419e9408-ac7d-11e9-8030-530adfa879c2

Brassy, do you still believe that guff? Perhaps you have tongue firmly in cheek, who knows?
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 00:08
Looks like you oppose all concept of spelling and grammar, too.
By:
akabula
When: 25 Jul 19 00:09
Laugh torque
By:
anxious
When: 25 Jul 19 00:10
The Eu and their plans stop socialism
By:
anxious
When: 25 Jul 19 00:11
fook you you thick scouse idiot
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 00:12
Hi, Foinavon.

The EU is totally buggered financially. Absolutely desperate. All Boris has to do is slash corporation tax and big business would clamour to base themselves in the UK - French and German firms included. There is no loyalty when billions are at stake. The EU simply does not have the financial leeway or flexibility to compete against such a tactic.
By:
The Leopard
When: 25 Jul 19 00:14
Anxious ...the trolls are trying to wind you up to get you banned ....do not give them the satisfaction .....block them.
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 00:17
The last thing I want is for Anxious to be banned. Perish the thought, he is the gift that just keeps giving.
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 00:21
Anxious winds himself up BTW. In case you hadn’t noticed, such is the curse borne by the intellectually challenged.
By:
anxious
When: 25 Jul 19 00:23
talkmadder you are so infantile and such a fool with you ridiculous political garbage
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 19 00:24
All Boris has to do is slash corporation tax

It would certainly scupper the Irish since Ireland is one of the Worlds largest corporation tax havens. Did I hear that Ursula has pledged to harmonise taxation in the EU forcing through such legislation using QMV? Not looking good for Leo is it?
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 00:25
See, Leopard, he’s doing it again. Laugh
By:
akabula
When: 25 Jul 19 00:25
anxious I doubt anyone on this thread, spotty apart, would resort to reporting any of your posts.
That said no need for that sort of abuse.
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 00:27
Indeed not, Foinavon. We just need a PM who is prepared to play hardball. Will Boris be that leader? I don’t know. I guess we’re about to find out. Happy
By:
brassneck
When: 25 Jul 19 00:28
i thought all you guys knew what boris is at,but to me its a cert that he wants an election,how on earth would any sensible person go for a no deal,
why do you think they have not left already,the people voted the wrong way and it would destroy the country.but nobody  in government is allowed to say in public that the people got it wrong.because it was the MP'S who told all the lie's about what leaving Europe would do,they hoodwinked the nation.And now they are diluting the catastrophic consequences of a no deal.
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 00:31
I’n not saying Boris won’t call an election. That’s a very real possibility.
By:
akabula
When: 25 Jul 19 00:35
By the same reckoning Brassie why would any sensible person rule out No Deal?
An act of utter stupidity to enter negotiations saying that you will take the best deal on offer.
How good will it be well look no further than the deal May brought back.
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 19 00:50
The MPs and others were certainly lying to us in the run up to the election, preaching doom and gloom if we so much as vote Leave. Just look at the leaflet sent at great expense to every door in the land and recall the predictions from the then chancellor and the Governor of the BOE,
They are still doing it but their arguments have worn wafer thin. No positive reasons for remaining are ever put forward though, just the negative economic propaganda.
By:
brassneck
When: 25 Jul 19 00:52
no deal means no 38 billion for Europe.
no 38 billion means a country refuses to pay their national debt
no WTO Country is allowed to trade with any country that refuses to pay their national dept.
so no trade with any county.repeat ANY COUNTRY.
"HELLO,is that the IMF, we are a country in crisis ,we have no heat,no petrol,no food,no medicine,no oil,no internet,we have nothing and nobody will sell us anything.
By:
Foinavon
When: 25 Jul 19 01:02
The 38 billion is not national debt. It is the result of horse-trading at the beginning of negotiations in order for talks to even start on the understanding that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.The EU started at 100 billion, where is the basis for all this? We will have some liabilities and so will they, I would expect us to pay our proven liabilities and hope they will pay theirs.
Anyway, we are not going to agree or convince one another so I'll leave it there for another day.
Cheers Brassy.
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 01:05
Being called “thick” or a “fool” by the likes of Anxious actually translates as a compliment, of course. The same sort of rule applies when multiplying two negative numbers. Happy
By:
akabula
When: 25 Jul 19 01:06
Beat me to it Foinavon.
Once we leave negotiations can begin again and the £38billion will be paid subject to us getting a fair deal.
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 01:07
Absolutely correct, Foinavon.

Any good negotiator worth their salt could probably argue that the EU owes us money. Cool
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 01:09
And Boris seems to have saved us a billion already because it was 39 billion this morning! Grin
By:
akabula
When: 25 Jul 19 01:14
Lifted from twitter.

Cameron said it.
Osborne said it.
Clegg said it.
May said it.
In fact every major player said it.
A leaflet to every house in Britain said it.
And everyone on Britain knew it.
Leaving the EU meant leaving the CU,SM, ECJ,CFP,CAP and everything else.
No mention of a Deal or otherwise. We knew what we were voting for.
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 01:17
Correct, Aka, my old mate.

I actually think BJ will call an election. A massive gamble of course, but he might be forced into it.
By:
Baphornet
When: 25 Jul 19 01:17
anxious my friendLaugh it will be a sad day if you ever leave here. Just for you - i'm wearing a spiv hat
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 01:19
Don’t worry Baphornet. I’ll never allow Anxious to leave, I hold all his strings.
By:
Baphornet
When: 25 Jul 19 01:20
bit disappoined Steve Baker didn't get the Brexit gig; maybe Bozo will add him later?
By:
Torquemada
When: 25 Jul 19 01:22
Absolutely Baphornet. Baker would have been my choice as well.
By:
brassneck
When: 25 Jul 19 01:23
1.01 election + second vote on brexit."and clever Boris is saying to himself"come into my web said the spider to the fly"
Trump said to Theresa"take it through the courts and kick the can down the road for another 8 years"so thats second favouriteLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
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