boris has a problem

Not when he cuts corporation tax they won’t. Frankfurt and Paris cannot compete if Boris decides to play hard ball.

I very much doubt companies are going to pack up and leave to Europe in the next 99 days on the off chance there might be a No Deal.

The EU’s finances are absolutely fooked. All Boris has to do is apply a little pressure by offering sweetheart deals to the big boys and they will roll over. The EU simply cannot compete, their finances are way too stretched already.

first day of Winter NO DEAL?The country would come to a stand still,if it not in a stand still from bad weather,6 to 7 weeks to christmas,no internet,no food,no medicine,no petrol,no nothing,and perhaps no job,no heating, riots,mayhem,and a thousand other no's.
if you go for a no deal you be prepared,and boris is going for an election,but talking up a no deal can do as much damage as a no deal itself in financial terms.

Not true. There is no such thing as no deal. We would just revert to WTO rules. Threatening no medicine, no internet etc is simply risible scaremongering.

to leave should be respected , but not give way way to a  free market  tory brexit

For many on the left we oppose the German led banks which to create a United States of Europe , the left oppose the European and British captilast

The re nationalisation of the rip of utilities would be a priority of the next Labour Government

You could be right Torque, this FT report is full of gloom about the German economy.

https://www.ft.com/content/419e9408-ac7d-11e9-8030-530adfa879c2

Brassy, do you still believe that guff? Perhaps you have tongue firmly in cheek, who knows?

Looks like you oppose all concept of spelling and grammar, too.

torque

The Eu and their plans stop socialism

fook you you thick scouse idiot

Hi, Foinavon.

The EU is totally buggered financially. Absolutely desperate. All Boris has to do is slash corporation tax and big business would clamour to base themselves in the UK - French and German firms included. There is no loyalty when billions are at stake. The EU simply does not have the financial leeway or flexibility to compete against such a tactic.

Anxious ...the trolls are trying to wind you up to get you banned ....do not give them the satisfaction .....block them.

The last thing I want is for Anxious to be banned. Perish the thought, he is the gift that just keeps giving.

Anxious winds himself up BTW. In case you hadn’t noticed, such is the curse borne by the intellectually challenged.

talkmadder you are so infantile and such a fool with you ridiculous political garbage

All Boris has to do is slash corporation tax

It would certainly scupper the Irish since Ireland is one of the Worlds largest corporation tax havens. Did I hear that Ursula has pledged to harmonise taxation in the EU forcing through such legislation using QMV? Not looking good for Leo is it?

See, Leopard, he’s doing it again.

anxious I doubt anyone on this thread, spotty apart, would resort to reporting any of your posts.
That said no need for that sort of abuse.

Indeed not, Foinavon. We just need a PM who is prepared to play hardball. Will Boris be that leader? I don’t know. I guess we’re about to find out.

i thought all you guys knew what boris is at,but to me its a cert that he wants an election,how on earth would any sensible person go for a no deal,
why do you think they have not left already,the people voted the wrong way and it would destroy the country.but nobody  in government is allowed to say in public that the people got it wrong.because it was the MP'S who told all the lie's about what leaving Europe would do,they hoodwinked the nation.And now they are diluting the catastrophic consequences of a no deal.

I’n not saying Boris won’t call an election. That’s a very real possibility.

By the same reckoning Brassie why would any sensible person rule out No Deal?
An act of utter stupidity to enter negotiations saying that you will take the best deal on offer.
How good will it be well look no further than the deal May brought back.

The MPs and others were certainly lying to us in the run up to the election, preaching doom and gloom if we so much as vote Leave. Just look at the leaflet sent at great expense to every door in the land and recall the predictions from the then chancellor and the Governor of the BOE,
They are still doing it but their arguments have worn wafer thin. No positive reasons for remaining are ever put forward though, just the negative economic propaganda.

no deal means no 38 billion for Europe.
no 38 billion means a country refuses to pay their national debt
no WTO Country is allowed to trade with any country that refuses to pay their national dept.
so no trade with any county.repeat ANY COUNTRY.
"HELLO,is that the IMF, we are a country in crisis ,we have no heat,no petrol,no food,no medicine,no oil,no internet,we have nothing and nobody will sell us anything.

The 38 billion is not national debt. It is the result of horse-trading at the beginning of negotiations in order for talks to even start on the understanding that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.The EU started at 100 billion, where is the basis for all this? We will have some liabilities and so will they, I would expect us to pay our proven liabilities and hope they will pay theirs.
Anyway, we are not going to agree or convince one another so I'll leave it there for another day.
Cheers Brassy.

Being called “thick” or a “fool” by the likes of Anxious actually translates as a compliment, of course. The same sort of rule applies when multiplying two negative numbers.

Beat me to it Foinavon.
Once we leave negotiations can begin again and the £38billion will be paid subject to us getting a fair deal.

Absolutely correct, Foinavon.

Any good negotiator worth their salt could probably argue that the EU owes us money.

And Boris seems to have saved us a billion already because it was 39 billion this morning!

Lifted from twitter.

Cameron said it.
Osborne said it.
Clegg said it.
May said it.
In fact every major player said it.
A leaflet to every house in Britain said it.
And everyone on Britain knew it.
Leaving the EU meant leaving the CU,SM, ECJ,CFP,CAP and everything else.
No mention of a Deal or otherwise. We knew what we were voting for.

Correct, Aka, my old mate.

I actually think BJ will call an election. A massive gamble of course, but he might be forced into it.

anxious my friend it will be a sad day if you ever leave here. Just for you - i'm wearing a spiv hat

Don’t worry Baphornet. I’ll never allow Anxious to leave, I hold all his strings.

bit disappoined Steve Baker didn't get the Brexit gig; maybe Bozo will add him later?

Absolutely Baphornet. Baker would have been my choice as well.

1.01 election + second vote on brexit."and clever Boris is saying to himself"come into my web said the spider to the fly"
Trump said to Theresa"take it through the courts and kick the can down the road for another 8 years"so thats second favourite

I think BJs first task will be to get together a 'think tank' and analyse seat by seat the likeliest outcome.
Also the possibility of a deal with Farage will be considered.

i'd like a team of about 6 going to Brusslels. Rumpole at the head

lol a think tank  as if bullingdon and his band of clowns could come up with that

hornet i hope you did not back the Englanders in the cricket ffs again

in fact i'd hope his 1st phone call was to Barnier & went summat like this " Hello Mikky; now about this deal; are you going to get off that stupid horse you're sat on & discuss a new deal over some funny bread & crap coffee? No? Well ok i may as well stay here then & start planning a 38 billion spending spree. Toodle pip

The first thing Boris needs to do is lay down the law to any traitorous civil servants, make them aware where their loyalties should lie. Half of those bastards have availed themselves of the EU gravy train for far too long.

nah, i backed the Kiwis though

His band of clowns.
anxious seems to have issues with people who make a success of their lives.

Boris is away for 6 weeks holiday on Thursday and when he comes back he is going to sort out a deal with Europe in 4 weeks that took 2 years to complete,and then he is going to sort out the norther ireland border problem in the same 4 weeks that took 300 years to sort out.

talkmadder seeing your dislike of the civil service would you not reprimand those briefing the billionaire right wing press telling untruths about Jeremy ?

Boris’s first call to Barnier should be four short words, then hang up.

Prague. 1994. Miss Svetlana.

Jeremy Hunt, you mean? Yes indeed. Beastly.

or is diferent rules for the spiv lie machine when they smear the Labour Leader ?

I jest of course. What untruths have they told about Corbyn?

Do the spiv filth ever act in with any kind of honesty  ?

saying he was to old and frail to lead this country ?

Brassie you miss the point. All the negotiations are done BJ will be looking to tweak them in our favour.
The border issue is simple. Whatever happens it cannot be allowed to drive a wedge between NI and the rest of the Union.

he's appointed Dominic Cummings to destroy the Civil Servants. Torq, he hates them

Did they state that? And, more saliently, you believe the civil service told them to state that?

they briefed the sunday times , this is outrageous lies and complete fabrication

Jeremy is unelectable.
Everyone knows that. The sight of Labour backbenchers calling for his removal should have seen him resign but Jeremy only cares for himself.

Corbyn has many obvious failings, but I wouldn’t call him particularly frail physically. He looks in pretty good shape for his age to me.

back to der grog

Another long list of any attempt that threatens of the Imperialist Capitalist Establishment

this man klopp has the liverpool team fecked up,he is telling them what to eat,what time that the have to go to bed,and everything else and the players dont like it,but he is shouting at them that they must obey him,and he has  a german temper,their civil liberties are being taken away from them."well,thats what i heard in the pub last Sunday for the people in the know"
and some of them are phoning Steven Gerrard for advicehope klopp does not find out.

The Spiv lie machine only want a tory stooge to be Labour Leader , why what is that frightens them  ?

the Imperialist Capitalist Establishment
Love it.

Anxious, do you not realise that throughout history the type of government you advocate has utterly failed with disastrous consequences every single time it has ruled anywhere in the world?

I would hazard a guess that is what “frightens them.”

let the people decide the ruling class again will attempt to destroy anything that threatens their money , power and privilege

The left are very adept at spending other people’s money. Not so good at anything else.

Were we to wipe the slate clean and start again, within a few years the same people would have the money and power again. That is simply the fact of the matter.

“The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.”

Winston Churchill.

lower corp tax means little if the people have less to spend where they might wanna invest.
it also would mean less tax generated.

wto means we have low tariffs for all but if you lower them too much then you become vulnerable employment wise to countries who can produce much cheaper....china and india spring to mind.
no wonder why dyson wanted brexit.

he sets up shop abroad so he can produce abroad and then export to the uk.

youve been done up like a kipper...excuse the pun

Jul 24, 2019 -- 11:33PM, Torquemada wrote:

Not when he cuts corporation tax they won’t. Frankfurt and Paris cannot compete if Boris decides to play hard ball.

Nobody can compete with London, all that will happen is that there will be piddly little offices in Paris or Frankfurt for compliance purposes.
Britain is still by far the easiest country to do business out of the big players in Europe &
I'm sure when we leave we can really open up the playbook!

Take off the chains and let the Lion roar!!!!!!!

Useful chart, Germany is 114th in the world for starting a business and France 96/99 respectively for buying property and getting credit
Good luck with that!

https://www.doingbusiness.org/en/rankings

"""Take off the chains and let the Lion roar!!!!!!!"""

Lets go

Macron and Flangela , Hated by the people of their own Countries ,astounding tbh , Whats more the haters are deemed Extreme right

Boris is not for me , but the Option of Jezzer

You get Caroline at the Helm , I'm back to basics ,I will vote Labour , a White working class Woman ,who says it as is

Whats not to like ?  A REMAINER who is astounded at the rebuke of democracy , Ms Flint is my pin up girl

Sadly ,she does not fit the luvvie socialist Shytehole Agenda , maybe ,one day .

Casemoney you seemed obsessed with media portrayals of Labour mps, this is typical of the drivel printed by the mail , torygraph etc , its all part of the tory lie machine and divide and conquer policy

Just thought i’d bung this one in on a political thread.
Multiple choice question.
Which party leader said the following?
“Leadership is about listening.”

BJ, JC, JS?

ROTFLMAO when I heard this.

It was JC, was it not? BJ suffers from a delusion of grandeur.

the only problem Bozo has is where to fit IDS in his Cabinet