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OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork
17 Jul 19 21:50
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I was reading that Betfair has around 80% of the exchange market.
So why is that when commission is cheaper elsewhere and what would have to happen for another exchange to become the market leader?
Do you think we will ever see a 0% commission exchange and would this be the downfall off Betfair if there was the liquidity that Betfair currently sees?
Interested in your thoughts... thanks!
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Report GRANTCKING July 17, 2019 9:55 PM BST
have always wondered why **** never caught on with its cheaper commission rate
Report GRANTCKING July 17, 2019 9:55 PM BST
bet daq
Report Crisp77 July 17, 2019 10:10 PM BST
Anyone fancy being the iron?
Report peckerdunne July 17, 2019 10:13 PM BST
It's not really an exchange anymore is it.

Punter V PUNTER DOESN'T EXIST.

Platinum accounts and bookies provide liquidity and bots.
Report casemoney July 17, 2019 10:24 PM BST
Pecker Spot on
Report UBLE/REGY July 17, 2019 10:28 PM BST
It could be the liquidity...if we want our bets and lays matched we need enough liquidity..

But it does cost in commision
Report impossible123 July 18, 2019 11:01 PM BST
I believe commission alone will not single-handedly influence the success of a Betting Exchange - liquidity is more important. One other Exchange I'd experienced of was lower in commission but liquidity was sh1t. Also, most Exchanges are owned by bookies, and layers are mainly bookie reps or wannabe bookies, I firmly believe.

However, if an Exchange is set up by punters eg a cooperative then it could work.
Report The Leopard July 18, 2019 11:09 PM BST
Thread will be pulled at 9.05am when Tarquin gets to his desk tomorrow morning.

Make hay !
Report UBLE/REGY July 18, 2019 11:30 PM BST
Laugh
Report The Leopard July 18, 2019 11:45 PM BST
What would be the name of the new co-operative exchange ?
Report Angoose July 19, 2019 7:47 AM BST
Liquidity is key, thus just not enough room for multiple exchanges on the same events.
Think VHS and Betamax, they simply could not co-exist, one format had to become the winner.

Possible though that you could have a rival covering niche markets.

As for commission, it's the necessary price of being able to access and benefit from an exchange.
I love paying commission, if I'm not paying it then that is very bad news.
Report impossible123 July 19, 2019 1:14 PM BST
Indeed, VHS won similarly Sky over cable. I'd rather pay taxes than not too, and not use the NHS (hospital) even though I'm eligible. The Co-operate Exchange could be named the Punters Exchange just like the Credit Union for loans to the less well-off or disadvantaged.
Report OnlyFoolsAndHorsesWork July 20, 2019 2:57 PM BST
Interesting thoughts - thanks for sharing. It seems that liquidity is key.
I think S Markets has the best setup to challenge, and from what I read and see, they put money into their markets and make more as a bookmaker than in commission.
Report Coachbuster July 20, 2019 3:01 PM BST
Betfair a lot easier to navigate too ...Betdq is a mess  .

and yes, Liquidity is key
Report impossible123 July 21, 2019 6:34 PM BST
Liquidity is an absolute key (no point otherwise), another is many bookies (including high street ones) have chosen to do their rounds here too (religiously) to manage risks and maximise potential profit. As a keen but small player one Exchange is adequate unless another not only could fulfil these two key fundamentals, but offers a lower commission too.
Report Just Checking July 21, 2019 8:28 PM BST
I was playing Betfair Monopoly (Chit Chat Edition) the other day. The Gasworks had become the Chemtrail works, the Utility Companies were now G5 stations, Fleet Street had become "Mainstream Media Fake News Avenue", there was an area called "Newham" that if you land in it you are immediately stabbed and have to go "Directly to Hospital", Whitehall is now "Tommy Robinson Parade" and Mayfair was renamed to "Old Skool P0rnhub". Some minor differences but generally all the same! Wink
Report Crisp77 July 21, 2019 9:17 PM BST
Any cats in it?
Report Just Checking July 21, 2019 9:33 PM BST
Actually the dog is replaced with a cat, the top hat is replaced with a with a MAGA baseball cap, the car is replaced with a lunar module that strangely just sits in one square being filmed all the time collecting money every turn from "the sheeple".

The Iron of course remains an Iron.
Report mouse muldoon July 21, 2019 9:36 PM BST
Bappy shuns the 6 traditional pieces and always brings his own little bugle to the party.
Report Nebs July 22, 2019 3:18 PM BST
Carol Vorderman has accepted the role of Community Chest.
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